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Thread: suckiest lvl 1 creature?
maStERgENiE
maStERgENiE


Adventuring Hero
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posted June 12, 2002 11:48 PM

suckiest lvl 1 creature?

Just wondering if anyone had an opinion on the worst lvl 1 creature available.

While we're at it, lets go for the favorite lvl 1 creature as well.

Mine would have to be the dwarf for the absolute worst, and the centaur for the best...
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Darkspirit
Darkspirit


Famous Hero
aka Zutus
posted June 13, 2002 06:41 AM

dwarves aren't that bad in the beginning of the game, they are there to finish off what the halflings cannot kill. However they aren't useful later on, but neither are imps who die way too easy. I don't think mana leech is that useful since it only takes away 2sp's, thus they need four rounds to replenish a devils summon ice demon spell, I think that's a little bit too much, it's better to use mana potion. I don't like zombies either, ok, they have a lot of hp for a level one, but that's all. Conclusion: dwarves and imps are the worst.

I don't take the stronghold units into comparison for the best level ones, since these are just better overall. I think the most useful are sprites, wolves (despite their low numbers, these are still useful when enemy has no retaliation anymore) peasants are also nice in the campaings, just stack 'em up
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maStERgENiE
maStERgENiE


Adventuring Hero
Genie taking the Smeg!!!
posted June 13, 2002 08:53 AM

You're right, imps aren't that bad. But what made them better than dwarves was the fact that if you're fighting devils or nightmares.. One turn of the imps, and they have taken away the devils and nightmares ability to cast spells.

This is very useful if you're only just as strong as the enemy, and can't afford to be fighting more ice demons or have one of your units incapacitated for three rounds.

Don't like wolves. Die way too quickly. No opinion on the sprites.
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Oldtimer
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posted June 13, 2002 11:15 AM

Imps are in no way the worst level 1.  They are fast and can take away any creature's special ability.  If you fight angels, imps will destroy that pesky ressurrection ability, or any other creature with a spell point ability.
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Thunder
Thunder


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posted June 13, 2002 11:25 AM

Easy way to render Imp's special ability to useless is to put might hero without magic in the front line. That way they won't drain spell points from your Angels. If you expect that opponent does something like Imp Bomb put creature like mage in the first line. The mage replenishes its spell points after the battle and the whole Imp Bomb strategy is useless.

Most useless first level creatures are Zombies, Pirates and Troglodytes. Why? Because they are neutral creatures and it is rather unlikely that you will get them in reasonable numbers so that they would be effective at all. Peasants are only little better with their tax ability.
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Dajek
Dajek


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posted June 13, 2002 12:17 PM

Peasants suck. Centaurs are the very best... Hmm... My fav. lvl 1 is wolf I guess...
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bestanden
bestanden


Adventuring Hero
posted June 13, 2002 02:06 PM

level ones

worst: skeleton
best: sprite
honorable mention: bandit

Sprites are great because of the flight/speed/no retal.  Nothing like a stack of a couple thousand of them.  Opponent must choose between dealing with the sprites or attacking the hero/level 4 stacks.  Sprites + confusion is also great.
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maStERgENiE
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Genie taking the Smeg!!!
posted June 14, 2002 03:33 AM

hmm??
I didn't consider the leprachaun's... but I think that could be that their fortune ability works really well for when you're just starting a game.

I know I said centaur's are the best lvl 1 creature, but upon reflection the skeletons actually come very close. Especially if you have them in numbers.
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Hero-Alex
Hero-Alex

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posted June 14, 2002 03:25 PM

why is cenestaur best, i think they SUCK.
Berserker is the worst lev.1.
Halfings are good, giantslayer makes them good.
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Perji
Perji


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posted June 14, 2002 05:04 PM

Best creatures can be either crossbowmen (they're long range shooters and have a great growth rate) or the skeletons (you can make 1k skels in no time). The worst are imps, they're no use for a necromancer with or without their stealing ability, and the peasants. The farmers are only good in sheer numbers for their tax paying, but otherwise...
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maStERgENiE
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Genie taking the Smeg!!!
posted June 15, 2002 05:58 AM

Centaur's are the best because of the fact that they are shooters, and when that is over, they are also very decent melee creatures..

Crossbowmen.. I really have no opinion. They are shooters. That is all.


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Darkspirit
Darkspirit


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posted June 15, 2002 05:24 PM

yes, but the centaurs can be a strong melee level one too. just take away someones retaliation and they can be strong in the beginning too. The same goes for berserkers, take away retal with hero and let them do their double attack.
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bestanden
bestanden


Adventuring Hero
posted June 15, 2002 07:27 PM

level ones

my whole level one list

sprite
bandit
centaur
crossbow
berserker
imp
halfling
dwarf
orc
wolf
squire
skeleteton

like someone else said, the non-town first level creatures don't do much for you unless you get several dwellings.


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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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posted June 15, 2002 07:44 PM

worst level 1 creatures...

berserkers... if you can't control them, what's the use?
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Camelnor
Camelnor


Famous Hero
Also known as Blue Camel
posted June 16, 2002 12:10 AM

Im going with the worst to be leprechauns...
Their the weakest L1 stat-wise (weaker than peasants)
and their special isnt anything to write home about.
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Big_Blackie
Big_Blackie


Adventuring Hero
Insanity is bliss...
posted June 21, 2002 06:05 PM

Best: Centaurs-Ranged, no melee penalty, good stats, only downfall to me? Don't play Might.
Worst: Leprechauns-Slow, bad stats.
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OrgyOf_Sins
OrgyOf_Sins

Tavern Dweller
Sinner
posted June 21, 2002 07:22 PM

Worste = peasent
Best = Sprite
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Saruman
Saruman


Famous Hero
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posted June 21, 2002 07:59 PM

My least favourite level one unit has to be the peasent.

Don't know about my favourite though... I'll have to think about that one...
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