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Thread: Building the town: what would you chose?
HALT
HALT


Known Hero
Knight of Justice
posted October 17, 2002 01:58 PM
Edited By: HALT on 20 Oct 2002

Building the town: what would you chose?

There is some info on the towns. To be exact that how much of money and resources you need to build the town up from the ground.


_________________________|____|____|____|____|____|__
|_105500_|.....150.....|.....147....|......15......|.....50.....|......10.....|.....6.....|
Academy (order)
|...98000...|.....143.....|.....113....|......32......|.....9.....|......44.....|.....26.....|
Asylum (chaos)
|_103500_|.....199.....|.....155....|......32......|.....21.....|......0.....|.....0.....|
Havan (Life)
|...97750...|.....132.....|.....122....|......22......|.....23.....|......35.....|.....24.....|
Necropolis (Death)
|_104000_|.....178.....|.....100....|......23......|.....24.....|......17.....|.....29.....|
Preserve (Nature)
|_107500_|.....160.....|.....138....|......46......|.....6.....|......7.....|.....18.....|
Stronghold (MIght)

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Khaelo
Khaelo


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Underwater
posted October 17, 2002 04:51 PM

How did you get those numbers?  I tried making a spreadsheet like this a while back, and the whole either/or thing for the higher level creature dwellings made a mess of it.  You can really only work from basics (like the Tavern, which is always 500 gold and 2 wood if not prebuilt) and general rules (allied magic add-ons to the Mage Guild generally cost 2500 gold and 2 units of the allied town's specialty resource). Beyond that, it ges complicated, especially with pre-reqs for high level dwellings.

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HALT
HALT


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Knight of Justice
posted October 18, 2002 02:02 PM

i have a manual! he he all numbers are there!
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japjer
japjer


Adventuring Hero
posted October 18, 2002 04:24 PM

i'd go for haven

because you only have to stack up on 2 valuable recources. even if you take the more expensive path (which in my opinion is crusader/angel).

very cheap

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Klauts
Klauts


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posted October 18, 2002 04:32 PM

yeah cheap but sucking,very sucking.Choose DEATH it rocks.
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titanleader_dw
titanleader_dw

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posted October 18, 2002 05:09 PM

might or death

might is the most expensive town if u look at gold
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DarkTitan
DarkTitan


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posted October 20, 2002 03:44 AM

Ummmmm

Asylum should cost more then 10 thousand gold. The dragons den alone is only 14 grand

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titanleader_dw
titanleader_dw

Tavern Dweller
posted October 20, 2002 09:49 AM

1st it was a mistake of halt it should be 98000

2nd all lev 4 dwellings cost 14000 bucks
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HALT
HALT


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posted October 20, 2002 10:35 AM

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Asylum should cost more then 10 thousand gold. The dragons den alone is only 14 grand


pardon me its a typo! Ill fix it! thanks
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Bizud
Bizud


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posted October 23, 2002 06:25 AM

Look, if this is another "which town is best" thread, then I think we can just agree to disagree.  Personally, I like stronghold and preserve.  And yes, academy sucks royally.

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Nidhgrin
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posted October 23, 2002 06:48 AM
Edited By: Nidhgrin on 23 Oct 2002

@Bizud:
Quote:
Personally, I like stronghold and preserve.  And yes, academy sucks royally.

 Academy sucks royally?  Right...  It may be one of the harder towns to play with, but I'd like to see an equally expensive preserve army take my academy town any day of the week.  Even a few titans on those archery towers will do amounts of long range damage unmatched in the game.  Dragon golems on the other hand are amazeing with their negate fs/fs.  Genies can duplicate your best stack in a matter of turns or deal massive (no retal) ice damage, not to forget their song of peace or slow.  Gold golems are undoubtably the most reliable level 2 creatures in the game.  Magi are vulnerable but powerful nonetheless.  Don't underestimate those little halflings as well.

Everyone has his/her favorite town, usually the town you're best with.  For me that's the necropolis.  But none of the towns is worse than the others.  Some just do better in certain situations than others, that's all.


@HALT: Nice initiative HALT, good to see those numbers all together so that we might make comparisons, the manual was lacking this.

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HALT
HALT


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posted October 23, 2002 09:55 AM

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@HALT: Nice initiative HALT, good to see those numbers all together so that we might make comparisons, the manual was lacking this.


thanks man! finale someone saied something good about my work here. LMAO and where is my red star he he he! ;P;p;p
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sos
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posted October 24, 2002 10:25 AM

Academy is one of the best towns, but sometimes easy to handle. To counter genies you need to develop good magic resistance heroes (either combat heroes or damage spell casters) and at least one of them should have dispell or cancelation to dispell ilusions. Now what can genies do against that - can't cast bolt (resistance), their ilusions will be dispelled, as fighters they suck. Black dragons are the genies nightmare as they cant do anything against them.
Also, academy troops are so slow for initial exploration.

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Uncoatedtitan
Uncoatedtitan


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posted October 24, 2002 10:42 AM

Hmmmm!

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Academy is one of the best towns, but sometimes easy to handle. To counter genies you need to develop good magic resistance heroes (either combat heroes or damage spell casters) and at least one of them should have dispell or cancelation to dispell ilusions. Now what can genies do against that - can't cast bolt (resistance), their ilusions will be dispelled, as fighters they suck. Black dragons are the genies nightmare as they cant do anything against them.
Also, academy troops are so slow for initial exploration.

Hia all
I just played a few hotseats/sp's with Life as my main dinner and it was on JB map's ( you allways got an extra tavern next to town ) ( can't jb win without ? J/K ) but Life is kinda powerful! ( and I was a Fortress woman in h3 , well still is ) but I think wamps are good, efreets, genies. But Life...still me fav. ..........so far good thread Halt ( Zdrovo Halt )
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Khaelo
Khaelo


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Underwater
posted October 24, 2002 11:36 AM

I still don't think you can just plop all the numbers together and get an accurate picture of town building costs.  Take the Academy, for instance.  You can build a full Academy using only 17 gems by going Gold Golems/Nagas/Dragon Golems.  That route is going to cost you 121 ore.  On the other hand, the maximum number of gems you can spend building an Academy is 46, in which case you will only have to dole out 93 ore.  Obviously, most players will be somewhere in the middle of those ranges.  But there is no possible way you can ever spend  a full 137 ore or 50 gems building one Academy.  Either you spend the 16 ore to build Titans or the 30 ore to build Dragon Golems.  Putting them together double-counts 16 ores, just as it double-counts 4 gems.

Anyway...that's my little soapbox.  Please continue the analysis now.  

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HALT
HALT


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Knight of Justice
posted October 26, 2002 02:17 PM

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good thread Halt ( Zdrovo Halt )
Uncoatedtitan


thanks Lisa. I glad to see you here.  learning russian i see heh? he he so Privet to you too than.

Give me a bit time to boost up my PC and ill see you online. You vs me H4. lets the bast win he he
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