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titanleader_dw
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posted November 06, 2002 06:35 PM |
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my favourite is 6 whights splitted and one big stack of zombies
the whights drain mana from craig so he cant cast mass spell(he only have 10 spell points ,havent he?) and my zombies are casting a big implosion 
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted November 06, 2002 06:45 PM |
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Hmmm... only town creatures makes it easier...
Hero: Highest attinaable level Mephala, Neela or Tazar.
Skills: Expert Offence, Armorer, Leadership, Luck, Tactics ...
Artifacts: Orb of Inhibition, Shackles of War, Ring of the Wayfarer, Ring of Speed, Cape of Velocity, Necklace of Swiftness. If any of the combination artifacts circumvent the Orb of Inhibition then those needs to be considered.
Stat: 99 Attack, 99 Defence, doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
Creatures: 7 stacks each with 32167 Ancient Behemoths.
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted November 06, 2002 07:25 PM |
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I would replace the ancients with Supreme Angels, Djive.
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted November 06, 2002 07:40 PM |
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I would replace the ancients with Supreme Angels, Djive.
I will fight your Angels any day of the week with my Behemoths. 
The defence reduction of the Behemoths is worth much more than going first with such high stats... And the Orb stops your angels from casting ressurrection.
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted November 06, 2002 07:59 PM |
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Okay then, switch the Supremes with Ghost Behemoths then. You can't win this time!
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Yolk and God bless.
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Nebuka
Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
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posted November 06, 2002 08:14 PM |
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This thread is strange. First sos gets a warning, and he's like one of the nicest people here, then Djive makes a joke...
World gone mad! :-p
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Conn
Responsible
Famous Hero
God slayer
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posted November 06, 2002 08:17 PM |
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A little clarification
I warned sos because his post accomplished nothing other than insulting another member. If he comes with arguments why someone isn't right, i have no problem.
However, i will not accept any post that translates as "i know better than you cause i'm smarter and have played more games". Not without supporting arguments.
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted November 06, 2002 08:32 PM |
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you are the best god-slayer...you act like all the others when they become mod, sos only said facts in his post, there is no reason to warn him, or can anyone see something?
Let me tell you something conn, noone cares that you are a mod now, you are not important...
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privatehudson
Responsible
Legendary Hero
The Ultimate Badass
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posted November 06, 2002 08:43 PM |
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*yawns*
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HeyYou
Known Hero
and beloved food provider.
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posted November 06, 2002 08:50 PM |
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HeyYou, this board is visited by people that play this game for several years now (not several days like you seems to be playing it). Nobody takes you seriously when you say that Goldies are faster than Archies. You better play some more before coming here to tell us this and that.
I wouldn't expect them to. It's a good thing I never said that. I said ArchAngels are faster.
Pay attention.
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Wub
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted November 06, 2002 09:16 PM |
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Edited By: Wub on 6 Nov 2002
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Beating the unbeatable
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Hero: Highest attinaable level Mephala, Neela or Tazar.
Skills: Expert Offence, Armorer, Leadership, Luck, Tactics ...
Artifacts: Orb of Inhibition, Shackles of War, Ring of the Wayfarer, Ring of Speed, Cape of Velocity, Necklace of Swiftness. If any of the combination artifacts circumvent the Orb of Inhibition then those needs to be considered.
Stat: 99 Attack, 99 Defence, doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
Creatures: 7 stacks each with 32167 Ancient Behemoths.
Actually I think that this army can be defeated. Too bad I can't test it right now, because I errr...don't have Heroes 3 installed (oops, haven't played it for 6 months ). Still, I am fairly sure that it can be done.
But first: I would include a vial of life blood which, if I remember well, is put in an open miscellaneous slot. Taking a ballista will help a bit too. Second: Is 32167 really the maximum number? It doesn't make sense, I would say it is 32767 or something, but I admit that I don't know it. Third: I don't know anything about combination artifacts because I don't have SoD.
The idea to beat those AB's is to exploit the fact that they are walkers in siege combat. One or more large stacks of titans with at least some speed artifacts should be sufficient to take out the catapult in the first round when you are attacked in a castle and after that you can let the towers do their work. A lot of patience is needed (although there is some bug that let the towers do double damage against heroes with armor skill?). Btw, the earthquake spell is negated by the orb.
When attacking those behemothes in a castle, you should make sure you have enough titans and block the gate. Ballistics are needed to put your catapult on defend. Also take an ammo cart with you. When you make sure that you kill the behemothes faster than the towers kill your titans, you should be able to win this too.
This army of titans may not win in castle combat when the red orb is removed and Tazar/Neela/Mephala knows some magic. In the open field you stand no chance beforehand of course .
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sos
Known Hero
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posted November 06, 2002 10:25 PM |
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My post was not meant to insult anybody. I don't think what I said insulted HeyYou, but if it did I appologize. I don't think I need to present arguments why anybody who doesn't know that Archangels are faster than Goldies won't be taken seriously, it's obvious. Hey you didn't said that, but he had to "find out" which is faster and that is the same thing to me. Of course, anybody can express their opinions, my last sentence can be considered as a friendly advice, not an insult
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted November 06, 2002 10:33 PM |
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@Lord_Woock: I didn't consider WoG creatures in my reply. Just standard basic Heroes 3 creatures.
@Wub:
Oppps. Yes, it should be 32767.
Yes, I wouldn't want to be in a siege with this army without removing the Orb first, but that ruins part of the point with the army. Might consider Recanters cloak. Hmm.. Earthquake and Teleport (Expert water required to get over the walls) is castable with Recanters if I remember correctly. Problem is: even if I unequip the Orb there is nothing saying my opponent doesn't have one equipped. So conclusion is: not the best army for sieges.
A Vial of Lifeblood helps a bit, althougn not much since Ancients have 300 Health. BUT: The Elixir of Life should be considered, but that would cost the two rings which increases Speed, since the Vial and two health rings are needed for it.
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HeyYou
Known Hero
and beloved food provider.
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posted November 07, 2002 12:14 AM |
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sos
It's true that I don't have all of the creature stats memorized. I'm sorry about that. Maybe I'll make that one of my life's goals.
Thanks for the advice. I'll try to stay out of your way until you deem me worthy.
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sos
Known Hero
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posted November 07, 2002 04:39 AM |
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HeyYou, nobody knows all creature stats by heart, even Andi . But if you want to be a good player you need to know some stats. Speed is one of the most important things to know, especially the speed of all level 7 creatures. Many battles are decided in the first 2-3 combat rounds and whether you have the first move or not is critical.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted November 07, 2002 08:59 AM |
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Edited By: Conn on 7 Nov 2002
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toss toss i dont know if archangels or gold dragons are faster toss toss...wasnt hey you the homm3 grandmaster that was tossing with me and rychenroller in that one thread, thinking he can give us a "good challenge".
Well, I found out ArchAngels are faster. Not that it matters, because I know that your precious ABs are slower. Slow slow slow.
You can't kill what you can't catch, Andi.
Wow & I thought Behemoths were even faster then AA  .
Edit by Conn:
Aculias, i already said "play nice". I won't say it again. That's why i removed some of what you posted.
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Commando
Known Hero
Unleasher of the Bloodthirsty
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posted November 08, 2002 03:43 AM |
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Hmm... 4000-odd Ancients, several hundred Archangels, a few thousand Hobgoblins, the Orb of Vulnerability, the Cape of Velocity, clone, resurrection, summon (any) elemental, slow, haste, blind, *lots* of spell points, all stats +- 90... more than enough to take care of 7*9999 Azures  Ergo: the question sucks Why? Because there are no absolutes in Heroes.
Edit: Whoops, wrong orb - corrected
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted November 08, 2002 05:27 AM |
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Basically you are telling me to be someone I am not Conn?
I had a feeling the library will be going down the drain ever since you came in telling everyone to be nice when most of the time of what I been reading there was no put downs or really any harsh words whatsoever.
If you have a problem about what I say then come to my face & tell me, dont say that I am being warned without me knowing what you are talking about.
At least thats what I do & I will speak how i feel.
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted November 08, 2002 05:51 AM |
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That is bullsh1t conn, you have no right to actually say something inside another persons post. If you feel you have to delete something, do that and face the consequences, then post something under your own name after it.
So far you suck as a mod.
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privatehudson
Responsible
Legendary Hero
The Ultimate Badass
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posted November 08, 2002 05:58 AM |
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I think you will find most tavern mods edit posts like that as well.
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