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lord_crusader
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posted January 31, 2003 05:53 AM

For the masters of heroes...

Hey hello...
I have a new question for you all masters of heroes...
What is the best "creature - secondary skill" combination???

well I have some ideas like:

luck- dreath knigths (double+double damage)
resistance - rampart (dwarves, aura unicorn, thorgrim )
offense - stronghold (behemonts al this creatures have a extraordinary attack skill and damage)
archery - tower (titans, archmages)

Do you have any idea??


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rychenroller
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posted January 31, 2003 06:48 AM

Offense/Naga queens, especially under Hack or Gundula, this is deadset scary.

All fortress armies/mass haste (airmagic obviously) this is not so much a combination but a necessity.

Archery/double shooters (grands, marksmen) Orrin is fun

Water Magic/Mighty Gorgons/Chaos Hydras, teleport, bless, clone rocks with these guys.

Armourer/titans, these guys dont die at the best of times and if you block em off with other armies and stoneskin/shield em with an armourer its incredible.

I'm sure there are many others, but these are some that spring to mind for me.

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Kuma
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posted January 31, 2003 01:05 PM

1st Aid (+ tent :-P )in a fight wif 3 lvl 7's and 6-10 80+health lvl 6's.

Usefull for those early meets on 2smd4


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tewilligar
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posted January 31, 2003 10:01 PM

 hack + arcangels (god they hit hard)

 tactics/red orb/orrin (destro's tactic,shoot opp army before they get across without use of haste etc.)

 mass slow and behemoths (a must on preset maps when you need to smash 15 giants week 2 )


 exp fire and beserk (self explanitory)


 tewilligar and hot babes (also self explanitory)
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posted February 01, 2003 01:54 AM

Archdevils and slow - can kill an incredible amount of troops with few of them.

Archdevils and frenzy - wait, frenzy, attack - most of the time 1 AD hits like 4

Archdevils and force field - can do nasty things vs nonshooters as long as you have mana to cast it.

Yea, I like devils lol

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lord_crusader
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posted February 01, 2003 02:38 AM

I think clone with fenix too...

Fenix grow by for 4!!
and are the most fast creatures...
with water magic expert and clone
a very hard first strike...

and obviously expert fire magic with dragons or some conflux's creatures with armaggedon





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Apophis
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posted February 01, 2003 07:08 AM

Yeah...Poenixes, Magic Elementals, Fire Elementals and expert armageddon. And if you have the Orb of Tempestuous Fire then you are really bad.
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tewilligar
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posted February 01, 2003 11:35 AM

bah

conflux is for n00bs that cant play other castles,no offense. against the top players in toh i prolly run a record of 3 out of 10 victories (i'm above average at best ) but with flux i'd be 9/10

morale of the story : not only am i easy to beat,but true skill is gained from playing real towns
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 01, 2003 01:18 PM

Think you so easy to beat? Ya didn't see me. I'd be happy to play you if you have time. And no zone, ok? I registered but can't play. I mean when it asks me for my username, I type it in and it tells me about having multiple usernames and that's it! I can't play in the zone!
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Apophis
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posted February 01, 2003 02:16 PM

Quote:
conflux is for n00bs that cant play other castles,no offense. against the top players in toh i prolly run a record of 3 out of 10 victories (i'm above average at best ) but with flux i'd be 9/10

morale of the story : not only am i easy to beat,but true skill is gained from playing real towns


We are not talking about conflux being for noobs or not. We're talking about creature secondary skill comnbination. And we're not talking about your toh status either. I don't like conflux but it's there, in the game, so it's a real town. If don't like it, don't play with it.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 01, 2003 06:06 PM

Cflux isnt a real town, its a toss.

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lord_crusader
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posted February 01, 2003 11:10 PM

I donīt Like conflux too, too many advantage... But a good player know what he can do to beat this town...

whatever... the conflux creatures are weak Vs. magic... and the creatures isnīt have a great attack or defense... only sixth level... :'(


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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 01, 2003 11:45 PM

weak vs magic? lol..u better check up the word "immune" in dictionary =)

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LordLazy
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posted February 02, 2003 12:37 AM

And u'd better check what the word Vulnerable means
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lord_crusader
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posted February 02, 2003 02:30 AM

What are you talking about???
immune???

If i hit a storm elementals with ligthing does double damage!! is that immune means??

and the same thing with the magma elementals and ice elementals

I donīt think anyone of you are too"SMART" to try use ice bold vs ice elementals


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posted February 02, 2003 03:01 AM

Biography of SirStiven: A swedish tosser, most known for not liking Malekith hero, but also known for not knowing things ....hehe...he did have a point though.....
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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 02, 2003 03:59 AM

lol n00bs.

Conflux is not weak vs magic.

Sprites:
not immune at all.

Storm Elementals:
vulnerable to fire/lightning spells. Which in real battle means that they take severe dmg from an armageddon (which most likely wont be casted by opp since both cflux lvl 4&6&7 unit is immune to fire), chain light and bolts...so in real battle only really dmg spell to them is chain light because i doubt someone to cast bolt on them.

Immunities: mind spells and shower, which basically means they are protected from berserk and blind and cant be showered.

Ice eles
vulnerable to fire spells (which again is really unlikely to be casted), and immune to mind spells, and water dmg spells. Which basically mean that they wont be berserked/blinded either.

energy eles
voulnerable to water dmg spells. Which basically mean that they are not voulnerable by anything since you most likely wont cast a water dmg spell to begin with. Immune to fire and mind spells. meaning same as before, nor does it increase the chance of a armageddon against this town

magma eles
voulnerable by showes and immune to lighting, firestorm and mind spells. Meaning: you put these next to storm eles and they prolly wont be showerd concidering storms immunity and you wont chain light because of magmas immunity.

magic eles
immune to all spells.

phoenix
immune to fire voulnerable to nothing.

So please now show me how this town is magic voulnerable???

What this basically means is that all units can be protected from their voulnerable parts but yet still have their immunities.

Personally i would like to see a town more resistant/immune to magic than this one if you exclude hit&run. Rampart is only town able to come near as i see it.

Conclusion: the cflux "volnerability" to magic is BS, since their voulnerable/immune parts kinda takes out themselves.

What is left is way many immunities and one unit that is immune to all spells.

but you off course knew all this lordmalekith didnt you since magic is supposed to be your "strong" side...loool.

N00begians..rude and stupid

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Celfious
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posted February 02, 2003 10:51 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 2 Feb 2003

The hack tactic.

Try to bless giving max attack
Try to make luck strong giving chance to hit again.
Keep attacking. Take only 1 retaliation if possible & applicable.
If applicable, have a one level 1 delegated to take the first retaliation from the opponents big dog #1 stack.
Mightaswell get damage modifiying artifacts.
If going against heavy magical army, use orb, bless thy *** not thy army.
attack.

Why did I share that here?? Well, topic has something to do with skills and combinations. Something like that.

The hack tactic, is for noobs. It is worse than what you explain conflux.
For those who will cry out "Celfious, theres more to the Hack tactic than that neyaNeNaNeYAA"
Well, no **** should I write the seemingly endless list?? Just beef up, and avoid damage.

Holy crap, I just ate a crunchy skittle *blegh*
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LordLazy
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posted February 02, 2003 04:54 PM
Edited By: LordLazy on 2 Feb 2003

lol n00bs. - hmmmm....u call me n00b, I don't care....

Quote:
Sprites:
not immune at all.


Agreed

Quote:
Storm Elementals:
vulnerable to fire/lightning spells. Which in real battle means that they take severe dmg from an armageddon (which most likely wont be casted by opp since both cflux lvl 4&6&7 unit is immune to fire), chain light and bolts...so in real battle only really dmg spell to them is chain light because i doubt someone to cast bolt on them.


U actually just proves that u have no idea what you're talking about...plz....don't come here and talk BS like this.....Lightning bolt....let's say it normally does 600 damage(even more with malekith )....but against storms, it will do 900 damage...pay attention man.....50% more damage with a spell that already is useful...IF YOURE USING MAGICIAN!

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Immunities: mind spells and shower, which basically means they are protected from berserk and blind and cant be showered.


Yes....my advice to sweedn00bian must be.....don't throw shower on them lol...

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Ice eles
vulnerable to fire spells (which again is really unlikely to be casted), and immune to mind spells, and water dmg spells. Which basically mean that they wont be berserked/blinded either.


Yea..one unit....ooooh......very immune to magic...yea

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energy eles
voulnerable to water dmg spells. Which basically mean that they are not voulnerable by anything since you most likely wont cast a water dmg spell to begin with. Immune to fire and mind spells. meaning same as before, nor does it increase the chance of a armageddon against this town


Ice bolt is useful...with 50% more damage........not to strong unit anyway

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magma eles
voulnerable by showes and immune to lighting, firestorm and mind spells. Meaning: you put these next to storm eles and they prolly wont be showerd concidering storms immunity and you wont chain light because of magmas immunity.


LOL, meteor shower is cheap...and with the extra damage it's useful as a hit  only one unit spell! anyways..LOL, won't shower them...hehe......I'll use inferno instead

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magic eles
immune to all spells.


Agreed

Quote:
phoenix
immune to fire voulnerable to nothing.


I'll implode it....just as vulnerable to that as any other unit...

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So please now show me how this town is magic voulnerable???


I have'nt said it is...but it's not less vulnerable than any other town..keep that in mind [although very powerful with armageddon...but hey...flux is unfair anyway......u are enlightened .....although..u have some points.....u shouldnt just ignore everything u don't agree with...no offense...

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What this basically means is that all units can be protected from their voulnerable parts but yet still have their immunities.


they are not protected...I'll take advantages of theyre vulnerability anyways...but, as you have stated above.....u can make those spells less useful....with the correct positioning of youre troops


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Conclusion: the cflux "volnerability" to magic is BS, since their voulnerable/immune parts kinda takes out themselves.


Conclusion: not necceserily....but possible....


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but you off course knew all this lordmalekith didnt you since magic is supposed to be your "strong" side...loool.


Yes it is...and magic is definitaly not youre side...practice make perfect ....

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N00begians..rude and stupid


hehe...I consider that a joke
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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 02, 2003 10:26 PM

one last thing then, since the only thing you really disagree with is the using of bolts (the other tossing like using m shower on magmas and using ice bolts i concider as just tossing because i hope that you have the brains enough in this game to understand that thats a bad idea to start with).

But concerning the bolts u went on talking about a 600 power bolt...and to cast one of those you need about 24 Spell Power. Which as the random player you say you are you must know that you dont hit those values right away.

Meaning you shouldnt have 24SP before week 3, and by then you should have stronger dmg spells like implo to use instead. Because even a n00b like yourself must know that implosion is a better spell than a bolt?

So basically, only time you would get to use light. bolt in a real battle is if one player has recanters. And if thats the strongest you got vs a might hero you are dead anyway.

As for you should know magic...well in my eyes you have lots to prove lol.

But you have achieved one thing tho, you are now #3 placed in my "to kill list" right after archie&motors...congrats, see you on the battlefield in march i hope.

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