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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: New Rule for Clans Proposal
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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted April 15, 2003 01:08 AM

yes but valky wouldn't it be more fun have a clan war against your buddies then constanly just destroy people?
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AzureDragonTM
AzureDragonTM


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posted April 15, 2003 01:08 AM

Jiels 1st thing first... U must seek to play with me cause u r a stinky baron and if I beat u i will take like 2-3 points but if u beat me u will take like 50 points, so is in your interest to play with me (besides learning something from that game) not backwards. When I was a squire and a baron I tried to play only with high ranked players. 2nd Insatiable talked about a shield game and u should read the rules there...he didn't agreed with my map... this is warlords tournament. 3rd Jinxer look at my player list and after that talk about it I have only 6 newbies on that list with only 7 games with them (from my begining of toh carrier)

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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


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unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted April 15, 2003 01:11 AM

yes but valky wouldn't it be more fun to play against your buddies in a clan war then constanly destroy people?
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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


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unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted April 15, 2003 01:13 AM

sorry i posted it twice

but anyway azure you whipped my ass when i was a newbie 3 times
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted April 15, 2003 01:14 AM

no, that's the only reason i formed the clan in the first place!

and if you all don't shut up about it i will remove my clan from there as i see it offends all of ToH
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AzureDragonTM
AzureDragonTM


Known Hero
posted April 15, 2003 01:17 AM

Balcough corect me if I'm wrong...1.I beat u 3 times when u were already baron. 2. I always tried to teach u a few things after our games. 3. Vs me u will be the eternal newbie, so that means i can't play with u anymore ?
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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted April 15, 2003 01:19 AM

hehehe your funny well then good luck with playin people and i did learn alot i was a fake baron had no idea what i was doing. But not any more so if you don't want to play me its no skin off my back
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted April 15, 2003 01:22 AM

maybe it would be ok to continue things as they are right now if a clan had even a measly 10% chance of beating Unholy or Wisdom.  But they have NO chance!  0%!
The only clans that could beat these two clans are each other! (and they dont even fight...)
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Joel
Joel


Adventuring Hero
An Underdog (Version 2.0)
posted April 15, 2003 01:24 AM

Azure:
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Just because u guys don't want to learn how to play


This is my third season in toh.  I've been playing a losing to (and winning against) lords for a couple of years now.  I've been in a clan season 3 and 4 that made it to the finals (which we asked Ves to take us out of), I know how to play.  I learned it the hard way by losing to vets.  

But more important than that, I learned how to play with honour.  Something you don't seem to have.

Valkyrica:
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we have never forfeited any game

Bullsnow.  Azure has forfeited a number of times, one even led to a clan war win.  I'm also starting to think Teacher is never going to play Insatiable.
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here's no rule stating that we have to dismantle the clan after it becomes succesful just because some new ones lack the skill to beat us, you want fairness, I gave more than enough of that (i let you pick your own maps, i even gave prestige to newly created clans, well only werewolf's cause joel said no to clan war, but i still offered)
And there's no rule saying we have to play you.  There are only 8 lords.  4 of them are in 1 clan.  Say whatever you want, it's unbalanced.

And yes, you did offer me prestige.  Of course to me it sounded something like this; 'I'll give you 5 prestige if you let my lords beat your squires.'  What kind of fair clan leader would do something like that?  

And yeah we get to pick the map to play on, well, not quite.  What you really said was; give you a list of 5 and then you'll pick one from it.  That's not the same thing.  

Regardless, why would I want to play people that act like asses?

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we will prove our strength with joel's new born clan, we will use no artifacts on a map and land chosen by Vesuvius !
 Prove your strength by offering Insatiable, Gustn, Werewolf's and Jinxer's clans the same.  Until you do that you're just blowing smoke.

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hat's not my fault cause you started later than we did, or maybe at the same time but don't have what it takes to win a clan war .
And it's not my fault that I don't want to play you.  Maybe if you guys would grow up a little I would.

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I made this clan for the single purpose of me, my brother and my friend azure to play in it (we got SHK along the way), so you can't demand to split a buddies clan just for kicks !
 Good for you.  Jex and I are brothers too.  And he's already told me that he will make his own clan if he makes baron and can get 3 good clan members.  

I'm not sure why you rest your case when you weren't on trial.  Some people said they don't want to play your clan anymore, for valid reasons, and all of a sudden there's a song and dance.  Fun.





   

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AzureDragonTM
AzureDragonTM


Known Hero
posted April 15, 2003 01:25 AM

I think u all guys forget about Tc_fear's clan (who already beat the wisdom empire) and Youri's clan (also a very strong team). And yes if u r talking about newbies clans, indeed they have 0% winning vs us.
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted April 15, 2003 01:29 AM

all i know is when i scroll down the "completed clan wars" page i see something like "wisdom empire 4-0, unholy alliance 4-0, wisdom empire 3-1, unholy alliance 4-0," etc. etc.
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Joel
Joel


Adventuring Hero
An Underdog (Version 2.0)
posted April 15, 2003 01:34 AM
Edited By: Joel on 14 Apr 2003

Azure said:
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Jiels 1st thing first... U must seek to play with me cause u r a stinky baron and if I beat u i will take like 2-3 points but if u beat me u will take like 50 points,
 So I lose no points if I lose?  That's wonderful!    What do I get that replaces my lost time for playing someone like you?  

I play to have fun.  Based on your posts here, your gamespy conduct, and your record, I wouldn't enjoy the experience.  Life's too short to play certain people.  

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When I was a squire and a baron I tried to play only with high ranked players.
Are you sure?  You never played me when I was higher ranked than you.  Hell, you never even asked back then.

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2nd Insatiable talked about a shield game and u should read the rules there...he didn't agreed with my map... this is warlords tournament.
 I know that.  I'm a former Warlord myself.  I still gave my challengers more options than you ever did.  You're so scared of Insatiable (45-42) that you'll only give him 1 map choice?!  

He was my first shield game and I gave him a choice of 4 maps.  Sounds like you're more of a coward than I was.

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AzureDragonTM
AzureDragonTM


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posted April 15, 2003 01:37 AM

Jiels sorry so say this to u but u r a what we call here a "shi.teater" ... u r talking without having any clue about u r talking about . Let me tell u about my forefits : 1. With Youri in round 2 when i was necro and he was order where i had boots of traveller .. so youri had "connection problems" and never showed up to finish it. 2. With Teglatphallasar a game where I send 10 emails to find my opponent. 3. With u where u didn't showed up until last day (u wanted to report a game to me but i refused telling u that i cannot accept a game without a fight). 4. With Bobntarm when he was injured and he told he can't play so I said what the hell lets double forefit since I must have had a pass in round 2. 5. Finally with Japjer when he was never to be seen. And u calling me a no honor player?? Right now I'm begining to understand Hidden_Dragon... why he never didn't bother to even speak with u. And stop calling names about the teacher cause he is the most honorable player around.
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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted April 15, 2003 01:40 AM

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I think u all guys forget about Tc_fear's clan (who already beat the wisdom empire) and Youri's clan (also a very strong team). And yes if u r talking about newbies clans, indeed they have 0% winning vs us.


ok, tc_fear clan got lucky in ONE war (hidden got life, i'd wager).  They've also lost to White haired bandits at least twice and lost to wisdom empire in the other clan war that they played them in (in which im sure they werent super lucky like they were in other one).  So we see that the two giant clans have gone down a total of ONCE, and that the other clans basically can't touch them.  Yeah, Youri's clan is real good, but they still lost 4-0 to Unholy Alliance.  You can argue all you want, but imho its pretty clear that the 2 lord clans are much better than the rest.
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AzureDragonTM
AzureDragonTM


Known Hero
posted April 15, 2003 01:48 AM

Jiels, sorry I don't recall u ever being higher rank than me. Maybe becuase I was always 2 pages (ranking pages) in front of u, so u didn't see my toh nick . Once again I don't understand your meaning of honorable player... to me a honnorable player is one player who don't cheat and report his losses...any other definition could come from a twisted mind. Blue_camel with Youri clan we had 3-1 and not 4-0.
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Joel
Joel


Adventuring Hero
An Underdog (Version 2.0)
posted April 15, 2003 01:50 AM
Edited By: Joel on 14 Apr 2003

Yes, they're are always reasons for forfeits.  They happen, I'm not denying that.  It's just that's it's strange that certain people have more forfeits than others.  Why could that be?

Azure said:
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Jiels sorry so say this to u but u r a what we call here a "shi.teater" .
Ahh how honourable of you, too bad it's so snowing immature.  Let me counter with an argument you'll understand; it takes one to know one.

And get your facts straight.  Hidden has talked to me, he even asked me for a clan war.  If you want to know more about Hidden, go to the h3 forum and ask about his h3 history.

As for the Teacher, maybe he is honourable.  I wouldn't know.  Dropping in a hard (where 1 misclick will result in the death of some blacks) fight and then lying to me about his game just means I won't play him again.  He was very honest about his drop in the middle of the fight, which does seem honourable.      

Some of my friends like him and say he is an honourable guy.  Maybe they're right, I gave him a chance to see what he was like and I'm sorry, he didn't live up to my standards.

Does that mean he is dishonourable?  No.  And I've never said that.  

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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted April 15, 2003 01:54 AM

 3. Vs me u will be the eternal newbie, so that means i can't play with u anymore ?


is this the words of an honorable winner azure? like insatiable told me once he said we will play any map in a clan war and should never complain about and i went along
and did not complain about.I will play any map he chooses for us to play without any complains or whines.
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AzureDragonTM
AzureDragonTM


Known Hero
posted April 15, 2003 01:59 AM

Let me tell one thing about my clan mate the Teacher : he is the last person who will disconnect in a battle ... if he disconected means he lost connection. And about me having more forefits compared to my clan mates... that is because sometimes I'm not in the mood of playing...and I switch to more dinamic games for a short period (like counter-strike or AOE). So if I'm not in the mood of playing I'm tired to keep emailing to my opponents. Can u believe from 5-6 forefits I received only 1 email from my opponents trying to fix a date with me ? So why the hell I should bother trying to bring them on gamespy to play with me, since they don't even move one single finger to email me ??? And once again I'm telling u this : if the teacher lost connection in one battle, be sure he will play EXACTLY THE SAME HE PLAYED and stop comparing him with the lossers u played with, who disconnected from other reason !!
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Jex
Jex


Known Hero
posted April 15, 2003 02:01 AM

Chill Pill

Damn, you guys take this game toooooo seriously. Step back for a week. Try to remember why you spent all this time at the computer. Is it to get into agruements about who is the Greatest??? (predicts Azure's next post "I am")

It is just a game.

Personally I think there would be more people playing H4 regularly if they were in a clan. Thats the only reason I have played a ToH game in the last 2 monthes or so. If it worked to motivate me, maybe it would work for others too.

The problem is they cant start their own clans and none of the top players are opening new clans. So we are stuck with children like Azure.

Deth: It is nice to see that Valk's clan has lots of comaraderie. I am sure that those friendships would disolve if they had to play against each other in a clan war???? I guess I dont understand what you are trying to say. All we want to see is more clans which would mean more comaraderie.



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Joel
Joel


Adventuring Hero
An Underdog (Version 2.0)
posted April 15, 2003 02:09 AM

There are so many people vouching for Teacher that you're right, he must be an honourable player.  My apologies for suggesting otherwise.

I tend to think it's just that our sense of humour's arent' in synch.  Insatiable says you're always just joking.  And if you are, well, I guess I don't get it.  Sorry for that.

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