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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
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posted May 27, 2003 05:59 PM |
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The root of all evil..............
..... seems to be me.
well i was not sure if i should write this here or not but i think its time to explain some things.
first lemme tell ya all a lil story :
a long time ago i walkd into my local software store and wanted to trade my old "kurt der fussballmanager" game for a different one and in the "trade box" there was a game "heroes of might and magic 3" i grabbed it and it were the best 5 DM ( would be 2,5 Euro today ) i ever invsted 
i started onlineplaying shortly after i bought it and of course - i lost almost any game for month over month . but with tghe help of my buddies ( specially andi) and with strong will and practice (of coursei hope with talent too  ) i got better and better and the longer i played this game - the more friends i found and the stronger i got connected to the gaming community. but i never was everybodys darling - i never wanted to be and thank god i nver will be .
the highest motivtion for me in playing homm was to become one of the top players but reaching this by honorable play and without being known as a pure cuthroat or a dirty player. i got closer and closer to my aim the peak reachin season 4,5 ( the hidden one) when i first time hit the 1st rank and kept it till "end" ( well or lets call it till "xarfaxiation" ). but after this i felt my motivation getting less and less slightly. im not quite sure why this exactly was the way but maybe because the game got old or maybe because i reached everything i wanted to im not sure really but main reason prolly the lack of a real new challenge.
but even because my motivation was decrased i played on simply because i had a ton eof riends and still loved the game and wanted to support it.
then a while later h4 was released and i tryed it and hated hit ( and still do ) not to say much about this chapter hehe.
then later another chapter in toh began . MaH was "founded" . mandi and raven joined together and took over the homm 3 part. a very hard job they had because h3 activity was down and zone was completely dead. aftr a while of tossing about this we (mandi raven andi myself)discussed together how to give h3 nw life and to bring activity back to zone and so me and andi joined the staff as coorinators. all thought we would fail but our team did it and we brought toh h3 back to enormous activity.
but now the dark chapters began : instead of taking care of our TOH-H3 baby wich was successfully reborn again we started to have a fight behind the scenes. i dun wanna blame anyone spcial for this becasue basically all of us are guilty. instead of doing our jobs for the players the game and TOH we were discussing and foighting who is "the big guy/girl" in mah and similar bullsnow.
in the meantime destro left honor council chair and we needed a replacement. i offered - no to be true i demanded -to take over this job. simply because i didnt want to have a chairman in toh who would retire after another 1-2 weeks and i know i can take a punsh.
and the fights behind the scnes got more and more. now they were not only about who is the TOH/Mah boss or who is responsible for which tourney or which tourney idea will be used . now one more reason was there : Hc decisions
the argueing behind the scenes came to a point when it didnt get any further so i decided to wipe out a huge reason for arguments and made the offer to stop making tourney ideas or the running of any tournamnts and only concentrate on the hc job.
the fighting stopped but it wasnt the only thing that ended......
when i went to zone last week a player zmed me and told me " you liar you promised 90++ people in zone and look now - zone is dead" and i agree with him and admit my mistake. i shouldn't have stopped fighting for homm - fightin for the game and the comunity i love. i broke my promise and disappointed a ton of people.
to summarize : i made a mistake by joining the honor council - a huge one. not because im not good at this job or anything like this. simply because imo im needed more at different places even more. and the other council team members are all great guys who all you players can trust in 100%. whover of em will become the new chairman of TOH will continue the great team job we did the last weeks.
yes im leaving honor council chair by the end of the month -and then i will have a ton more time to do again what i can best. and concentrate on it 100% I'll fight - fight for h3
its a long way till homm 5 and if we dont fight we - the h3 community - will lose all together.
i last i will appologize to my HC team and the MaH/Toh team for not mailing em first about my decision but its better this way imo.
Fighttilltheend
Ps: holymen, cross ramses and such fools feel free to toss here but that wont change the fact you may not participate in the upcoming homm3 revival
P.P.S : of cause anyone else but th mentioned foos above is free to flame too
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maximus
Famous Hero
Bronzed God
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posted May 27, 2003 06:39 PM |
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interesting stuff
so whats next on the agenda motor?
does this also mean u and andi gonna be more active on zone as well ?
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madmartigan
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
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posted May 27, 2003 06:50 PM |
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in the meantime destro left honor council chair and we needed a replacement. i offered - no to be true i demanded -to take over this job. simply because i didnt want to have a chairman in toh who would retire after another 1-2 weeks and i know i can take a punsh.
and the fights behind the scnes got more and more. now they were not only about who is the TOH/Mah boss or who is responsible for which tourney or which tourney idea will be used . now one more reason was there : Hc decisions
the argueing behind the scenes came to a point when it didnt get any further so i decided to wipe out a huge reason for arguments and made the offer to stop making tourney ideas or the running of any tournamnts and only concentrate on the hc job.
to summarize : i made a mistake by joining the honor council - a huge one. not because im not good at this job or anything like this. simply because imo im needed more at different places even more. and the other council team members are all great guys who all you players can trust in 100%. whover of em will become the new chairman of TOH will continue the great team job we did the last weeks.
yes im leaving honor council chair by the end of the month -and then i will have a ton more time to do again what i can best. and concentrate on it 100% I'll fight - fight for h3
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IMO, You were the best choice for HC chairman, and did more than "good job". I don't think your joining the HC was a mistake. The real mistake would be your leaving it. Fights... yea, fight did happen. But all those who screamed and burned was the phuking cheaters and suckers. I saw noone in MaH/ToH other than the cheaters (and sometimes Aculias) complaining about the job you do/did.
I also do not think that the decrease in the activity is related with your position at MaH. It is becuz the lack of coordination. No challenging sub tournaments, no updates. The coordinators of MaH themselves did not show the required interest into that "new-born baby", so how can you expect the players to continue their interest on MaH/homm3? When the new season was started everyone was so excited.. Even I - who plays 1-2 games per week - began to play 4-5 games per week. But only after 1-1,5 months, it was obvious that there was something wrong in MaH. Subtournaments failed due to misunderstandings; many rules changed becuz of misunderstandings; players lost interest after a week becuz no updates were done bla bla bla...
If you really think that the activity has fallen becuz your position in HC, you must be a bigger foo than you look you are
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tewilligar
Famous Hero
Just another willigar
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posted May 27, 2003 07:23 PM |
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motor,you are a good chairman,you proved this to me,even when at 1st i was dead against it. i suggest you stay
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted May 27, 2003 07:28 PM |
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you all miss my point hehe. i leave the chairman position to have more time to invest in homm to try to revive it a bit - it can only get better . i wont leave honor council completely - just chairman position . i cant handle both edges . the council chairman side and the coodinator side simply because its too time consuming.
the time i win by leaving hc chair will be invsted in homm - its worst a try imo.
tryitschaaf
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coaie
Known Hero
Dirty MoFo
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posted May 27, 2003 07:36 PM |
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we have to atract newbies a good helpsite will be in order cause mayleft nobody helps them and they can't just play. weflea must have more tehnical information
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 27, 2003 07:37 PM |
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to summarize : i made a mistake by joining the honor council - a huge one. not because im not good at this job or anything like this. simply because imo im needed more at different places even more. and the other council team members are all great guys who all you players can trust in 100%. whover of em will become the new chairman of TOH will continue the great team job we did the last weeks.
yes im leaving honor council chair by the end of the month -and then i will have a ton more time to do again what i can best. and concentrate on it 100% I'll fight - fight for h3
Told you so
But it seems like you mad and tewiller doesnt understand his reasons for quitting...sure he has done a great job. I think almost everyone would agree on that.
But the gain of him as HC headman isnt as big as the sever loss of activity. Motors is one of those dedicated people thats needed to keep heroes3 going IMO.
And i think him leaving HC at end of month is the best thing for the whole MAH/TOH heroes3 gaming community even if its prolly a loss for HC.
IMO all of this is a good thing.
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madmartigan
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
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posted May 27, 2003 07:41 PM |
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No. I do understand his reasons. But I simply dont find it logical. He quits to raise the activity. What I am triyng to say that the activity did not fall becuz of his position at HC, and it wont rise even if he quits.
This is my opinion of course. I pray to be wrong.
I hope I made my point clear this time.
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted May 27, 2003 08:25 PM |
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No. I do understand his reasons.
you dont
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But I simply dont find it logical.
at least more logical than acus posts
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He quits to raise the activity. What I am triyng to say that the activity did not fall becuz of his position at HC, and it wont rise even if he quits. .
no the activity didnt fall only because i joined hc - and i dont simply quit hc chair to raise activity with a clap oin the hands. the activity fall because the complete team of us coordinators stopped "fighting" (and all of us are to blaim of this - no excuse accepted by anyone). with fighting i dun mean insulting each other or so . i mean actively discussing whats best and so on not just simply to "let things go its way". everything/everyone fall asleep and its time to wake up.
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This is my opinion of course. I pray to be wrong..
we gonna see
floodprotectSUCKSMAJORASSschaaf
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chubby051
Promising
Known Hero
King of All That Are Fat
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posted May 27, 2003 08:34 PM |
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Well, what ever you decide to do, it will help Toh/Mah either way.
But what is hurting Toh/Mah the most is lack of communication. Its embarrassing really. And until this is fixed, nothing will get better. Like Mad said, Toh/Mah is in the dumps at the moment because of Admin and Coordinators, including me. Most people probably don't even know that I am a coordinator, and i really don't care, when I started in January, i was strictly trying to help out due to the fact that 1) Motor was doing both HC chairmen stuff and coordinate, 2) Kitten has RL stuff going on that takes a big chunk out of her time, and 3) god only knows where ravyn is or what she has done to help out lately.
Tournements suck because they just get started, no communication at all goes on before they get fired up. No offence to any of you, but the way this tournement is organized at the moment is down right embarrassing. In the 5 months i have been involved with this stuff, i think i have recieved maybe 2 or 3 emails regarding tournaments and ways to improve them. Its god damn rediculous. Weather it be you don't want me as a coordinator, (not refering directly to any one person there) or you just don't think my input matters, i don't care. I am just trying to help out. Now that i have drug too much into this post, i will end this.
Toh/Mah is f***ed up beyond belief behind the scenes, and until this gets fixed, nothing will turn this tourney around.
If this post needs to be deleted, then fine. This is just one of the many things about this tourney I had to get off my chest.
Chubbs
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AndiAngelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted May 27, 2003 09:04 PM |
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Chubs, ill tell you whats wrong with myths: The admins wanna keep all power, but dont do enuf for the tourney itself. They dont wanna give it off their hands too, coz they were afraid from guys like me or schaaf - THATS 1 of the main reasons schaaf quits i think, to help someone get there who is actually trusted
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Kittenangel
Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
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posted May 27, 2003 09:33 PM |
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Andi you know what power I have over MaH that Chubby doesn't have? NONE!!! He has all power and can do everything I can, so try another line of BS before that one gets cold.
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Never wear anything that panics
the cat.
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madmartigan
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
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posted May 27, 2003 10:29 PM |
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Andi you know what power I have over MaH that Chubby doesn't have? NONE!!! He has all power and can do everything I can, so try another line of BS before that one gets cold.
This attitude is what Andi is trying to explain; and also this attitude is one of the reasons why MaH is not working.
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Gangrail
Promising
Famous Hero
Dead Man
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posted May 27, 2003 11:34 PM |
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Are we back to the Kitten is the downfall of MaH stuff again?
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Hexa
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted May 27, 2003 11:43 PM |
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Well ... I won't get into the discussion (yet).
Just wanted to thank Motor for his effort as chairman, which he did very admirably imNSho!@
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If you want to realize your dreams >>> you have to wake up!@
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted May 27, 2003 11:48 PM |
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Are we back to the Kitten is the downfall of MaH stuff again?
no - definatly not. would be ridicoulous and absolutly wrong to blame kitten only for the hard time mah is having lately. but of course she is to blame too !!!! if its me raven or kitten : all of us haven't put enuff energy into mah and specially its tourneys/coordination and this is what we have to admit and !!! Change !!! .
this is not the time to come with excuses or to blame somone else - if we do so we could also just close mah immediatly.
Realismschaaf
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Gangrail
Promising
Famous Hero
Dead Man
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posted May 27, 2003 11:52 PM |
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I know you never said that Motor I wasn't meaning you.
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splexx
Known Hero
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posted May 28, 2003 01:22 AM |
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IMO
Wise decision Motor!!
I think u did a marvelous job as HC Chair..(see HOS)
But your talents where being wasted...
I think u proved that last fall when with your help the zone went from 20 to 100 players.
Welcome back
MotortrysomemorerandomsSchaff?
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ironmlh
Known Hero
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posted May 28, 2003 02:02 AM |
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Ok
Yea Motor has done a great job IMO.
Hopefully your new role, whatever it may be, is more beneficial to the increase of TOH activity.
I, for one, just dont have much time to actively participate in many tournies. The ones I did partcipate in were riddled with issues of participation and management.
And...now the ones running, like Bracketed Randoms, just seem to be dead. Here is a quote from the Bracketed Random Tourney as an example
"After the remaining games are played bracketed Random Challenge will be close"
WTF is that about? Join a bracketed Tourney to only play one opponent, then it ends!
Things like that is another reason TOH is dying. Serious control and communication issues need to be addressed before the start of next season if you are to anticipate any extended interest to the players.
Also, whoever actually has control of the Web site needs to take an English and spelling class. Nothing more embarrassing IMO opinion to have your site read like a 7 year old wrote the words. The Grammar checker with Microsoft words works wonders on poorly written text.
Not trying to dis on the current state of TOH, these are merely some observations from a player.
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 28, 2003 02:07 AM |
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Andi you know what power I have over MaH that Chubby doesn't have? NONE!!! He has all power and can do everything I can, so try another line of BS before that one gets cold.
This attitude is what Andi is trying to explain; and also this attitude is one of the reasons why MaH is not working.
Indeed.
Something is wrong, and therefor need to be fixed.
Stop blaming each other and take responsibility and try and solve it.
simple as that.
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