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coaie
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posted May 30, 2003 01:33 PM |
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i truly feel pitty for kitten 
She must be a sweetheart with all her bunnies and kitties
How many names u got Manny..gettin old buddy..jesus
coaie is NOT manny thats one good thing about being a mod IP User Check
Damn right i am not manny
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chubby051
Promising
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King of All That Are Fat
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posted May 30, 2003 02:26 PM |
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this all is rediculous lol, none of you saw how it all really works behind the scenes...
Raven alrdy is tired of all the crap that is going on and stays away from it most of the times.
About kitten, me and schaaf used to laugh our asses off when she said shes gonna do something and than Dreamweaver showed the last action of her weeks ago or so
Well I did, which was enough to make me loss all respect for you. Yeah Yeah, i know you are the big bad german and don't care. blah blah. Heaven forbid she can't spend 24/7 infront of the computer and not have a life. She has already stated she has more time now to put towards the site anyways.
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This is a tourney site of an old game, does it matter who "owns" it? coz thats all kitten seems to worry about.
If it doesn't matter who "owns" it, then why are you pushing so hard for Motor to take it over? As I have said several times now, Motor doesn't need to take it over to do what he wants to do!!! And you know this. Face it Andi, as much as you would like to see your buddy take over so the 2 of you can get that recognition you desire so badly, its not gonna happen.
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and that is what slows down any process...
i mean Kitten knows nothing about how veterans play this game neither does she play it on zone, besides a WOG game now and than which doesnt count.
what i mean is, for her its not about the game anymore its about the power to own MAH - this cant be good, it wasnt good at the end with Vesuvius who got tired of h3, and you all saw how the tounrey went down the drain.
Of all people to forget why that season went down the drain, YOU. LMAO yeah yeah, you had nothing to do with it, blah blah.
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Vesuvius: nothing is running ok, WW with Knigh Xavier is the number 1 for a long time now, when i look at his tribes and stuff activity
I am sure they would love to see you registar
Not sure why we need to continue on this topic, it has been made clear. ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!! END OF SUBJECT, MOVE ON!!!!! lol
Chubbs
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AndiAngelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted May 30, 2003 02:35 PM |
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lol man you all do what you want, as if i care - kittens friend chubby jumps in, morons like grunancross spam this board, the quality here indeed is very high.
Couldnt care less, theres better stuff to do than hang around with you fools, you all play in your amateurish and foolish tourney have fun
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coaie
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Dirty MoFo
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posted May 30, 2003 03:11 PM |
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......Blaaa Blaa Blipity Whoooh Bhlahhh, Look what you are saying makes ZERO points. The things you say are to as to only help you along the way in points. If you don't like the way things are you would've never played there as long.
Also, what does EXP. have to do with running the site????Nothing!
Can't he get a penalty point for that (and many more ) ?
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Sir_Stiven
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banned
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posted May 30, 2003 05:49 PM |
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chubby read what im saying lol
Im not saying this will be a one man show even with motors at top, im saying that it will still be a team working but motors as top man could make important calls for himself that needs to be done fast.
and IMO andi had a good point actually, alot about the tossing about rules at tournies (like natives) is because kitten doesnt know the game well enough. If she did she wouldnt have allowed a toss like cflux nor would she have tried to combine a native/the hero thingy.
So, you want solutions?
here is one for ya:
Make motors in charge for TOH/MAH tournaments where he can make all the calls he wants by himself if neccesary. Because with all the respect none of kitten/ravyn/n00by051 knows the game very well.
So having them working together would just be a toss because ive been a part of groups like this before, and what happens is that one person have the best idea right away. But the people leading their group also want their name to show so they make some kind of compromise just so the people in charge knows they have contributed with something too. Problem is just that the solution of it all is worser than the first idea.
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Make motors MAH tourney responsible OR make a tournament group which only job is to come up with good tournaments and then update/manage/make commercial for them in a good way.
And if making a group put only people that knows the game in it, no tossers just because they are close friends of admins.
This way kitten/ravyn will still be in charge and motors will get an independant role at what his doing best.
Then you can call it whatever you like.
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Maximus
Famous Hero
Bronzed God
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posted May 30, 2003 06:20 PM |
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why not......Kitten as Head of MaH ( as she is )
Ravern/Chubby as MoD's (as is)
HC members (as is)
Motor's as Sub-Tourney Manager.......responsible for running and upkeep of the sub-tourneys.
Would be Sub-Tourney Managers job to make all decisions on the sub-tourneys, start, closing down etc etc, but make the job acountable also! what i mean is this, at the end of every 6 months, have a players poll on whether the Sub-Tourney Manager did a good job or not, sort of like re-election. If not, then the "Board Members" can put forward maybe 3 other possibe candidates for the Players to vote on woh they would like to see as new Sub T Manager, via poll again.
that way, kitten and co. still runs the overall site, and sub-tourney managers job is a performance based position.
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Maximus
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posted May 30, 2003 07:06 PM |
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well i for 1 is not bashing kitten........or even motor lol
but make the sub-tourney postion accountable by the players.
i dun think that is a bad idea actually lol
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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 30, 2003 07:11 PM |
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lol now what was that gangrail?
first you whine about only critism (or kitten bashing as you call it) and then i give a solution for all of this.
And im still doing something wrong?
Im not even "bashing" kitten in my post (except saying she isnt a good player, but come on!)
You keep complaining about us only bashing, well maybe thats what you see if you only look for the critism and not seeing the solutions we are offering.
Bah im fed up with this now, atleast concider my solution instead of just drifting it away as bashing.
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chubby051
Promising
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King of All That Are Fat
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posted May 30, 2003 07:19 PM |
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chubby read what im saying lol
Im not saying this will be a one man show even with motors at top, im saying that it will still be a team working but motors as top man could make important calls for himself that needs to be done fast.
1) You make no damn sence. lol. First you say its not a one man show, then you say motor needs to make calls for himself. Notice a problem there Steph? probably not. Would take common sence to see it.
2) Important calls for this tourney will not be made by one person any more. Nor will they be made fast. There is no reason at all where decisions need to be made so fast that the group can't discuss it first. This is only a damn game, not life and death. lol
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and IMO andi had a good point actually, alot about the tossing about rules at tournies (like natives) is because kitten doesnt know the game well enough. If she did she wouldnt have allowed a toss like cflux nor would she have tried to combine a native/the hero thingy.
When natives was started, there were 4 coordinators, Kitten, Ravyn, Motor, and Me. To blame the natives screw solely on kitten is rediculous. Motor could have said something at the time, he didn't. Ravyn could have, she didn't, I could have, and I didn't. As much as you would like to put all the blame on kitten, its not gonna happen. That was just as much Motors screw up as it was kittens, and Ravyns, and mine. We all should have caught it and NOBODY did. Quit trying to weed Motor out of all the screw ups and sticking it Kitten.
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Make motors in charge for TOH/MAH tournaments where he can make all the calls he wants by himself if neccesary. Because with all the respect none of kitten/ravyn/n00by051 knows the game very well.
1. Your getting frustrated because you know its not gonna happen, so lets start name calling. LOL. Very adult of you Stephanie.
2. You have never played me, or even talked about the game with me. You have no idea what I know about this game or how good/bad I am. So don't make judgement calls on me when you have no knowledge about me.
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So having them working together would just be a toss because ive been a part of groups like this before, and what happens is that one person have the best idea right away. But the people leading their group also want their name to show so they make some kind of compromise just so the people in charge knows they have contributed with something too. Problem is just that the solution of it all is worser than the first idea.
You have been part of a group of noobs before? Why doesn't this surprise me.
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....OR make a tournament group which only job is to come up with good tournaments and then update/manage/make commercial for them in a good way.
This all can be handle by the group of coordinators we have now. Thats what the coordinators are for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
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And if making a group put only people that knows the game in it, no tossers just because they are close friends of admins.
We have this already. You may think kitten doesn't know anything about this game, but you don't know. Granted she is not The Almighty Godess of Heroes, thats your title. But she does come up with good base ideas that we can work off of.
But anyways, i have wasted enough time on this thread. Its been made clear. This idea of Motor becoming Head man is over and done, its not happening. The debate is over and meaningless now. Final decision has been made, etc.....
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Sir_Stiven
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Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 30, 2003 07:48 PM |
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chubby, have you ever worked in a team?
As a team you take decisions together but sometimes calls are needed to be made quick and you cant set up a meeting with all 4 (in this case) to discuss it right away (also in this case when atleast 2 ppl seems very busy RL).
Thats when you need a person who can make these calls fast.
And no, it isnt a matter of life and death. But that doesnt mean that we cant have this tournament as good as possible right?
Concerning natives, let me ask you this then: Do you think the tournament would have been better/worse run if motors had handled it alone?
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This all can be handle by the group of coordinators we have now. Thats what the coordinators are for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
Well concidering what has happend to recent tournaments, are you happy with the result or do you admit that there is room for improvement/new solutions/ideas?
And you obviously missed my point chubby, i didnt call for motors as top man in my last post.
I wanted him to be responsible for the tournaments, kitten&ravyn kan keep being admins alone.
That was what my solution was all about, but obviously you were to busy making boring arguments about your gaming skills (or rather lack of ) to notice that.
EDIT: okies gangrail, np then 
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chubby051
Promising
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King of All That Are Fat
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posted May 30, 2003 08:21 PM |
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Ya Bastard, you knew I would respond, didn't ya? lol
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chubby, have you ever worked in a team?
As a team you take decisions together but sometimes calls are needed to be made quick and you cant set up a meeting with all 4 (in this case) to discuss it right away (also in this case when atleast 2 ppl seems very busy RL).
Yes I have. I know for a fact that Motor, Kitten, and I all check our emails atleast once a day. There are no decisions that can't wait that long.
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Concerning natives, let me ask you this then: Do you think the tournament would have been better/worse run if motors had handled it alone?
I agree with you here, yes Motor's help on the natives tourney would have improved the tourney. Unfortunately, kitten didn't get help from him, ravyn, and got very little from me. The best tourneys that we are going to put out are going to be a joint effort. IMO
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Well concidering what has happend to recent tournaments, are you happy with the result or do you admit that there is room for improvement/new solutions/ideas?
There is always room for improvements with anything. Yes, I admit there is a lot of room for improvement. I think this past week as been a good eye opener for all of the admin and coordinators. We got lazy, but now see what needs to be done.
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And you obviously missed my point chubby, i didnt call for motors as top man in my last post.
I wanted him to be responsible for the tournaments, kitten&ravyn kan keep being admins alone.
All 4 of us are Tournament Coordinators. This is our job. Kitten and Rayvn have the final say on things yes. But i think people are worried that we are gonna take Motor's ideas and opinions with a grain of salt. We value Motor's worth just as much as the rest of you. I know that is hard to believe, but it is true. And i can confortably speak for all of admin there.
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That was what my solution was all about, but obviously you were to busy making boring arguments about your gaming skills (or rather lack of ) to notice that.
Come talk to me about gaming skills when you are ready to come out from behind that firewall and play your second game this season.
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Titan_888
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Wind of Change
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posted May 30, 2003 08:28 PM |
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really whats wrong with you all
this thread has gone from 3-6 pages in few days... and all there is to read is NONSENS... nothing constructive at all.. but only people who wants come with the "hey-im-right-your-wrong" attitude.
LOL this never works out... there is only 1 way... but no i wont mention that here
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Gangrail
Promising
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Dead Man
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posted May 30, 2003 08:47 PM |
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I actually think that there are 3 threads here that needs closed and this is 1 of them. But until a mod of the room thinks so they will stay open.
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rychenroller
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Supreme Hero
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posted May 31, 2003 12:06 AM |
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fun games are good!
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted May 31, 2003 02:36 AM |
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Andi why the acusations lol?
I have not heard any facts from you & personally you were not a great HC member back then at all.
Actually you were the worst lol.
You couldnt even handle my problem when I was noob, you had your typical attitude with your I am too busy to help & email me blah blah which I have.
Just to know i get screwed by 2-3 players because you didnt help lol.
Andi you really got to quit your whining though for reals, you dont get your way so you flame Mandi & Chubbs etc.
Face it dude you cant win, so what you going to run because you think we do this to piss you off or you thing we just do what we want LOL.
Get a clue dude.
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SapphireRavyn
Promising
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Bird of Extreme Patience
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posted May 31, 2003 10:08 AM |
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When Motor made a tournament his name was the only one on it well he had Ravyn help so hers too. But Motor ran the tournament. Kitten never touched it or the rules. Motor when he makes a tournament runs the whole show. GET it through your thick skulls. Any tournamnet that Motor made he ran. Any tourney he makes now HE will run. Has always been that way. But like Chubby said this is really getting old and going to have Kitten Ignore these 3 threads for now on I will moderate them. SO the Kitten bash is over and thanks to Ves for saying Kitten and Raven are in charge. And that is the bottom line because Ves said so
Um actually, I did all of the updating for MapMasters, not Motor. I created all the pages and did all of the updates. He just picked the maps and for the last set Blockbuster, and New World did the drawing of opponents. And I do NOT bring this up to detract from Motor in any way. I only mention it because I don't want ya all thinking he TRIES to be a one man show, because he really doesn't. And yes he wrote the rules for the tournament.
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why not......Kitten as Head of MaH ( as she is )
Ravern/Chubby as MoD's (as is)
For the record Kitten is not "The" head. Her and I share the burden and the responsibility she is just much more in the public eye then I am.
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Make motors in charge for TOH/MAH tournaments where he can make all the calls he wants by himself if neccesary. Because with all the respect none of kitten/ravyn/n00by051 knows the game very well.
I have never made any secret about the fact that I am not very skilled at this game. Whenever I go to set up a tournament I always seek help from the more experienced. Actually that is the only reason we don't have clans at the moment. I don't have enough experience to set it up the rest of the way myself and my experienced help left the game (ya big German LUNKHEAD!). But I need HELP which means constructive help not just the usual "You suck" BS I usually get outta the boards. You can look at what little we have done below. Nothing is set in stone. Any and all constructive criticisms welcome and send to raven@toheroes.com!
http://www.toheroes.com/myths/tourn/clans/clan3art.htm
OH, and realize that the graphics were made BEFORE the merger with TOH in the rules that I have written I make no mention of artifacts but it says clan artifacts on the page. The graphic was made for old HK Clans with artifacts not necessarily for this one so you will need to actually READ the rules.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted May 31, 2003 05:57 PM |
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One for being partners needs to stick up to each other, not sit there & let about 10 players bash your partner not do a thang.
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GrunanCross
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King of the Underdark
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posted June 02, 2003 08:01 AM |
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Me for one, I'm real proud to see Ravin and Kitten handle this abuse so well. I do think that maybe Andi,If you leave, that will be you'er own falt. If you think that I'll cry over it you'er crazy. LOl You should know that you can't win everything. Why would Motor even need to anyway, if he was asked by them it would be one thing, but they anr NOT asking for this help so he sould "Stand Down", cause is time will come.
Also, to whom ever said the crude about the -qp...I think that if I insulted you or you'er "pal" that I'm sorry, but the truth do be hurting alot whence it is not known..Also I think that mahaps U need to re-think the things U are asking for,cuz if U really think that will be and improvement, U must not know what U have right now..."The value of something is never realyy known..Till its gone..."
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wpaxson
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posted June 02, 2003 08:36 AM |
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my first post was deleted its ok. I was willing to support this cause. However now im not so sure.With the amount of lamers that are in toh now i dont think you will be able to revive it.Where have all the good people gone?I can remember from season one so many good people.I do on the other hand applaude you for trying.It's a great game.I question one thing though,do you have a sense of humor motor?
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kuma
Promising
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u can type so much text in her
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posted June 02, 2003 01:25 PM |
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do you have a sense of humor motor?
Motor is a German; Germans make great cars, play a good game of football and make fantastic beer.
I've read the posts and as always the keyword is comunication.
Good thing I saw u r starting with that. Will help a lot.
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