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AzureDragontm
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posted June 24, 2003 09:21 AM |
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Life's level 5 r to good ? Another "brilliant ideea" from Jinxer ... make sure to ban them both on your next map. What about desintegration - which kills your hero for good ? Or about hand of death ? or steal all enchantments ? Ban them all Jinxer  ).
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Tc_Fear
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posted June 24, 2003 11:58 AM |
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Sanctuary and Divine Intervention are both way to powerful. Those spells would be more realistic if they were only cast on 1 stack at a time.
And what happened to Level 5 spells costing 25-30 pts like in h3. I mean when level 5 spell cost 12 points and ya can have 150 spell points. Leave pretty much unlimited casting of level 5 spell.
Life spells 1-4 suck and there level 5 spells are way to powerful.
And dont say, " Just kill the 2 DarkPriests before they can resurect the slain heroes " If it were that easy then we wouldnt be having this discussion.
Jinxer
life spels 1-4.donot suck on barbar and poor maps
jinx's right that those 2 spels is the best as for life but only creatures+tactic hero map.but no need of removeing sanctuary.I would prefer no cruisader .whats what makes it so powerfull.
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Jinxer
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posted June 24, 2003 02:00 PM |
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Azure every map is different, especilly in the way they were designed. So your sarcasm of why a map maker bans certain things on map is uncalled for. Yes it is true Sanctuary is banned on LIS, but it is not because I have lost to it. I have lost to about a dozen spells, and they are not banned. You are ust like Andi, you and your ego are just to big and you just TOSS all over the place.
As for all those other spells you mentioned, yes I do think they are also to powerful. I think most of the spell structure is to strong. But ofcourse 3do made the game to be played single player only. So they didnt take in to concideration multiplayer effects.
H3 and H4 are almost identical in the fact that, the majority of the games end completely 1 sides. In H3 it was the artifacts. If you got a few great artifacts the final battle was a walk over, and opponent bearly even got a chance to move his guys. In H4 its the spells.
Jinxer
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valkyrica
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posted June 24, 2003 03:03 PM |
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jinxer cut your yapping
life spells are very good, but since some don't use them, they seem useless (e.g. mass fervor) .
as for all level 5 spells of course they're powerfull, that's why they're level 5 !!! , and it's quite hard to get to gm in one school in a normal map.
it's your fault, the mapmakers' confederation for making long-arse and rich maps so you can get 2,3 heroes to gm in a magic school.
so stop blaming the spells, they're fine just as they are, just stop putting those hero enhancers all over the map, for Jinxer especially, Genesis and LIS are too big of a maps, so you can get gm on 2,3 heroes, and when you are weaker, not having even 1 gm hero, of course the other seems unstoppable .
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Jinxer
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posted June 24, 2003 04:53 PM |
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Guess all Valky can do is TOSS as well. Its sad to have to put you into same catagory as Azure and Andi. Oh well. If the shoe fits.
Jinxer
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Arangar
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posted June 24, 2003 06:23 PM |
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sanctuary -
Calling everyone not taking your side tossers isn't exactly the best way to up your non-tosser image.
Sense?
A map without sanctuary, big deal, sanctuary on Lisp would in fact be so overpowered it is hard to imagine 
So it was a good solution, but! Should also remove Book of Life, too common an artifact on a map full of majors and utopias
Arangar
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Jinxer
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posted June 24, 2003 06:49 PM |
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Aranger, there is a HUGE difference between someone offering there opinion on the issue, and always directly bashin a person.
Like Azure claiming I only remove spells when I lose to them. Or Valky claiming my maps are to big etc. Those are directed at me. Those are not opinions on the issue in the post. So that = TOSSING
If I had my way about it, I would Ban Divine intervention also. Seems really silly to spent your time trying to kill a Level 25 GM combat hero and then after he casts divine and poof you gotta start all over. And sure you can easily say. Kill the darkpreist first. Well if they got 2 of them and they in the back row, you cant lol.
Jinxer
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted June 24, 2003 08:43 PM |
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Jinxer
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posted June 24, 2003 09:46 PM |
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Hmm trying to understand your thinking here Ves. So if your saying you are a Newbie, and Aranger , Valky, and Azure are chasing you? Does that mean they are wanting to catch up to your level of Newbie? Wow thats deep Ves. If only those guys were up to your level of Newbie.
Jinxer
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Arangar
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posted June 24, 2003 10:23 PM |
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If you look closely there's another creature behind me
Could it be.... jinxer??
Arangar
Vikings unite!
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balcough_dra...
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unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted June 24, 2003 11:27 PM |
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no thats zud in the dust he tripped and fell
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whos your daddy and what does he do?
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted June 25, 2003 04:46 AM |
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yo evil jinxer
Thats my picture you cant edit it, it is blasphemy. You must post an original one of your own.
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AzureDragontm
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posted June 26, 2003 08:59 AM |
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The only thing that bother me is the fact that some map makers really destroy the fun playing heroes by destroying the game (ban spells, skills) ... a game is beautiful when every1 has his chance to win with every town available. The only unbalaced things in Homm4 are GM and Master Necromancy and Ring of Permanency. So all i'm asking is for people to stop thinking they r smarter than the people that made the game (especially people who have problems understanding how heroes works ) and leave all the game features where they are.
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Tc_Fear
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posted June 26, 2003 09:07 AM |
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true azure
I personaly like the idea no rules on normalmap at all but..
this discusion is/was how to deal with sanctuary
so far noone is truly sure he can make it
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Jinxer
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posted June 26, 2003 02:16 PM |
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Sure TC_Fear it was addressed. Simply remove the spell. It is a silly spell. When spells like this are added to the game it shows just how incompetent 3DO is. H4 was OBVIOUSLY only made for single player campaigns etc. Multi was added only as after thought. So NONE of the game design had multi in concideration.
And as usual I disagree with you Azure. 3DO cannot make a balanced game. So it is the DUTY of the map makers to make this game a more enjoyable game. GM necromancy is not the only overwhelming thing about Death town. Those Devils are hero killers. No other creature can make it to back row like Devils. So how is that balanced to opponent who cannot touch back row of you, but you can wipe out there strongest heroes that they are protecting back there.
Also how can you one moment say that NOTHING should be banned that we should play game as 3DOH made it, then next say , uhhm well GM Necromancy and Ring of permancy should be banned because they to strong! LOL sounds a bit hypicritical. Have a Band of Devils is = to Ring of Permancy.
If you were not so stuck on yourself and if your head wasnt so swollen with your own ego you might beable to see some of these things. But ofcourse you have reached that swollen head status by EXPLOITING 3DO's screw ups. Just like people exploited Hit & Run in Heroes 3. They all hid behind the fact that 3DO made game with H&R so ofcourse it should be used. Just like ring of permancy there are things in the game that 3DO screwed up on. H&R and chaining was 2 big goofs in H3. And amoung other things Sanctuary is one of the big goofs in Heroes 4.
Jinxer
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AzureDragontm
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posted June 26, 2003 02:38 PM |
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Yes Jinxer... forget us all ! U r so smart and we don't understand nothing. Say Jinxer why don't u make some new rules for the chess game ? BTW do u know what chess is ? U know what is your problem ? Zud keep abused of u (in every way possible) on every map ... and left u with some complexes : Sanctuary complex, Devils complex... Zud please STOP ABUSE JINXER ANYMORE ... cause soon he will make maps only with level 1 and even without heroes. One more thing Jinxer : the mistakes made by 3do can be used by anyone; anyone can cast sanctuary, or make devils... btw... devils are so easy to counter ... u need only a higher IQ. 
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Arangar
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posted June 26, 2003 02:53 PM |
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Damn, that refresh button must be wearing out azure.
Arangar
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Arangar
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insatiable
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Ultimate N00bidity
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posted June 26, 2003 03:08 PM |
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i like to ban some crappy vials and potions
..and that longsword(+3 att)..sucks
from spells..mass cancel may be banned, teleport OR town gate(not both)..just some general possible game equalizers.
Deth is full-fat cheese anyway..you keep take off, and its still strong!as for teleport and towngate..are too kickass for lev3, for both to be enabled.
still, nothing of these is absolutely necessairy
What to disable from a map..has to do more with map itself, how its author like it to be.
If dont wants some arties-spells or anything else..that not appropriate for map(may ruin its plot), may be banned.
I dont agree with MASS ban of things on all maps..like sanctuary you talk about...but, if jinx wants it out of lisp..thats the way it must be.
..i still dont agree with it, but i wont argue.
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Tc_Fear
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posted June 26, 2003 03:13 PM |
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Jinxer : the mistakes made by 3do can be used by anyone
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that mistakes can be used by luckiest player.donot like random town.couse it can suprise and make game not interestin
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H4 was OBVIOUSLY only made for single player campaigns etc. Multi was added only as after thought. So NONE of the game design had multi in concideration.
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And amoung other things Sanctuary is one of the big goofs in Heroes 4.
do u realy think its sanctuary
personaly I think its cruisader.noneed of combat-that mean beter heroes(mages or tacktics whatever)
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted June 26, 2003 03:18 PM |
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LMAO at Azure. He was obviously threatened and frazzled by my post. Look how defensive and rude he started firing back. Its nice to see I got under your skin Azure. But you just showed everyone that you are a little kids, throwing a cry baby fit. Maybe you will grow up one of these days. It is sooo easy to always throw that crap about Zud stop abusing Jinxer stuff. Its a weak comback man.
So the fact that Necro and Ring of Permancy is banned on almost every map in TOH means that the map maker was burned by it? NO, it means they are smart enough to know not to put a 3DO screw up on map. So try another approach Azure. Your crybaby posts only make you look like AndiAngelSlayer, he was same as you, to big head/ego and to many TOSS posts. Maybe you have same fate of him soon and be banned from Message board
Jinxer
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