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bjorn190
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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted June 16, 2003 09:03 AM |
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If HE had gotten the hillfort, his enterpretation of the rules might have been different.
Thatīs why its important to set the rules at the start, as you did.
Itīs not a standard rule
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted June 16, 2003 05:05 PM |
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i think saying ''no hillfort is a standart rule'' after the game is ''whining''.
standarts changes in every players.
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 17, 2003 01:29 AM |
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Nothing wrong with mentioning if you got a hillfort or not just to show some respect for your player like i always do.
So I would not feel bad killing them with 7 blackies instead of 7 reds etc.
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ironmlh
Known Hero
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posted June 17, 2003 02:00 AM |
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RULES
The only rules pertinent to your game are the ones you agreed upon. Period!
No such thing as `standard random rules'
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"Knowledge has discarded all biblical teachings"
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Kuma
Promising
Supreme Hero
u can type so much text in her
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posted June 17, 2003 12:14 PM |
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I will make a topic about it, Maybe that can help in the future.
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People used to call me crazy, but now that I'm rich I am excentric.
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted June 17, 2003 03:22 PM |
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Guess I'm one of the suckers...
Played several games where hillfort beat me, mainly because my rules were No dip/nec/fly/d/d. I guess I thought hillforts and cartographers were just givens in random play because as any random players would know...or should know, they are total game destroyers. Hillforts guarded by a pack of diamond golems and carts guarded by horde of black gargs is just a total gamekilling joke. I never said nothing in those games, where the other player has unblocked his hillfort week2, while I've saved my ass off for 4 weeks to try and build titans because it was never discussed in rules.
Needless to say now, rules say no dip/nec/fly/d/d/hillfort/cartographer  Hit and run me, red rush me (they are under my control, wont put myself in a position where you can...but dont hillfort me!
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Lews_Therin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 17, 2003 06:11 PM |
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Hello Rychenroller ,
I donīt remember that Iīve ever been killed by Hill Fort on a random map, but very often by stupid high level scrolls that were easily guarded. Which are mostly not banned. But it seems to me that this is just a matter of different experiences.
Iīd like to add, the Hill Fort was not an easy take, had to go through 3 Fairy Dragons, who meteored almost all of my 40 Grand Elves and most Centaur Captains. I can only be happy that they didnīt cast Chain Lightning ...
And the thing was closer to his starting castle than to my  ... I spotted it thanks to one of my heroesī scouting skill, and went looking for an underground tunnel in order to find that territory. I absolutely had to work and plan, for more than a week, in order to get it.
Well, the opponent Iīm talking of has once been my favourite Heroes player, I think this may have approximately been our 20th game. But the more often we played, the more he tried to avoid losses by use of unfair methods - demanding restarts in week 3 because I had Dungeon+Dragon Cave, stalling lost games for 10 more hours and taking turns one of which took 75 minutes (yes, really, seventy-five), or demanding me to skip a turn because he claimed to have been timeouted due to a bug five days ago. This last (in every sense of the word) game we played put an end to my tolerance, if he doesnīt apologize for his behaviour and continue or concede the game, the case will be handed to Honor Council. From what Iīve heard, Iīm not the first one who got his time and mood spoiled by his idiocies.
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Fenix
Known Hero
In ranks of Nebwoocka Alliance
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posted June 18, 2003 03:50 PM |
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I'm a new one. Please, could somebody tell me what is a necro rule? Does it mean no use of skeleton transformer?
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NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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Lews_Therin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 18, 2003 04:23 PM |
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Hello Fenix,
on random maps, Necropolis (like Conflux) is considered to be too strong and unbalancing, mainly for two reasons:
- Skeleton Harvesting: With those large numbers of low level monster stacks everywhere on the map, and also Imp Caches and Dwarven Treasuries appearing much more often than on fixed maps, you can gather thousands of Skeletons in a few weeks. In numbers, those Skeletons take Griffin Conservatories and Dragon Utopias with ease, and also are extremely hard to decimate in endfights.
- Vampire Lords: Few of them on a hero can be strong enough to win most combats alone. Divide them among your scouts, and they go through the map into all directions like a knife through hot butter. And gather even more and more Skeletons along the way.
Needless to say, this kind of play is not only extremely effective, but also extremely time-consuming. Your opponent can grow a long beard while you fight out every small little combat in order to gather more Skeletons.
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splexx
Known Hero
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posted June 18, 2003 05:59 PM |
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Quote:
like a knife through hot butter.
Hot butter?
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Divine_Master
Hired Hero
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posted June 18, 2003 06:27 PM |
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hehe ur funny rychenroller,
but in randoms if no1 is saying anything about hills-fort and red ruch and stuff like that, then there are no rulez about that 1 or 2 weeks later in the game when u see that ur side has non...
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Lews_Therin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 18, 2003 08:14 PM |
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Quote:
Quote:
like a knife through hot butter.
Hot butter?
Damn, youīre right Splexx  ! Like a hot knife through butter is what I meant to say .
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Fenix
Known Hero
In ranks of Nebwoocka Alliance
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posted June 18, 2003 09:38 PM |
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Thanks for the explanation, Lews_Therin, but are you saying that in a multiplayer fight I can't choose necropolis, my favourite town?
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NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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Lews_Therin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 18, 2003 10:00 PM |
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On random maps you may have difficulties finding an opponent who accepts that choice. Unless he gets Necropolis, too. Or Conflux.
Fixed maps on do other hand donīt require a rule to ban Necropolis, in my opinion.
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Hexa
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Legendary Hero
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posted June 18, 2003 10:54 PM |
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Well a Vet can usually kill a newer player (even if he/she uses necro) IMO!@
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted June 18, 2003 11:30 PM |
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hehe ur funny rychenroller,
but in randoms if no1 is saying anything about hills-fort and red ruch and stuff like that, then there are no rulez about that 1 or 2 weeks later in the game when u see that ur side has non...
I know this, like I said, I never said anything like "and no hillfort" when my opponent says he has one. Maybe you should try understanding my post....I dont whine about it.
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Myctteakyshd
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bjorn190
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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted June 19, 2003 03:38 AM |
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I think all you guys should move into the hillfort and not come out until youre friends
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