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kasparov
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posted July 31, 2003 11:30 AM |
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2,000 war unicorns baby~~~
That's right I have another brain-cell-killer problem. Hope you find this one more interesting than the last one.
Opponent, any hero(you get to pick your opponent!), level one, primary skills: 99,99,99,99, no spell book, no any secondary skills. what he/she has is one stack of 2,000 war unicorns.
Your choices, any hero with primary skills of 99,99,99,99, your pick of any 3 spells (even town portal ), any 3 secondary skills(even basic estates), and also ANY amount of troops and at last, spirit of oppression(you don't have to use it).
To make it a little more exciting, after you beat the evil Rashka, you will have a score, which can be obtained this way, 3000-mana used*10-the total hit points of creatures used for the battle.
Here is a little example just to show the steps. Let's just say that MIDNIGHT used 100 sharpshooters and 20 times of implosion to win the battle, his score would then be 3000-100*15(which is the total hp of the sharpshooters)-20*25*10(which is the mana he used multiplied by 10), this yields a pathetic -3500 points(negative 3500)
Here is a picture to show the battle field terrain(just to specify the question and also prevent people from taking advantage of some unique terrains).
Oh rite btw the score you get is the higher the better, that's to say, it better not be negative
Good Luck~~~
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 12:19 PM |
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I am asumming u cant have ammo cart?? if u can all u need is a few slow and 1 master gremlin and 1 ob garg or something... i am not willing to try how many rounds it will take or how many slow u actually need to cast.. since its 1 every 99th round zzzzz. without ammocart i guess u can use no retal troops and slow ie 1 vamp, 1 naga or 1 devil etc.. hmm something tells me i am missing something here .. or? cause if i am not its really not killing alot of braincells..
/archie
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kasparov
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 12:29 PM |
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I am asumming u cant have ammo cart?? if u can all u need is a few slow and 1 master gremlin and 1 ob garg or something... i am not willing to try how many rounds it will take or how many slow u actually need to cast.. since its 1 every 99th round zzzzz. without ammocart i guess u can use no retal troops and slow ie 1 vamp, 1 naga or 1 devil etc.. hmm something tells me i am missing something here .. or? cause if i am not its really not killing alot of braincells..
/archie
guess you are missing something...MATH...
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xx1
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 12:42 PM |
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sounds like a typical game situation....
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kasparov
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 01:23 PM |
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sounds like a typical game situation....
it's not sarcasm is it?
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bjorn190
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted July 31, 2003 01:59 PM |
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I would take as creatures 7 master genies.
As skills I would select expert earth magic, expert offence, and expert armorer.
And as hero, a level 59 tazar, as I believe 59 is about as high level as you can set a hero to in the map editor.
Then I would cast expert slow 1 time on the unicorns, and then summon earth elementals, and let them attack. One summon of 396 earth elementals with those stats and buffed by master genies should be able to take the unicorns out if u consider the armourer speciality.
I will do some tests tho..
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kasparov
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 02:08 PM |
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oh NO!
DID I MENTION THAT YOUR HERO HAS TO BE A LEVEL ONE HERO? I APOLOGIZE IF I HAVEN'T DONE SO......
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bjorn190
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted July 31, 2003 02:14 PM |
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ok Then I switch hero to a level 1 sir muelich, switch from armorer to luck, so skills are expert luck, expert earth and expert offence. I still bring 7 master genies and they put all these spells on the 396 earth elementals: fire shield, prayer, bloodlust, stoneskin, counterstrike, haste. for 3 turns I think, Im not sure. this gives the elementals attack 119 and defence 119 about. I think. killing 139 unicrorns per hit. I use up a master genie to take retal every time, and strike from a distance and move out, so I take out 139x8=1112 unicrorns before they get to make their first retal. I think. Im going to test it now. If I lose I will try it with 2 summons
Phase 1.. ok.. 1008 war unicorns left standing, all master genies dead. Spells on the 396 elementals are gone. speed 7 tho, speed 5 on unicorns. will try to use it to hit& run then to only recieve retal
Phase 2. No. Without taz the earth died.. need 2 summons to take the unicorns down. but thats doable easy. so thats 7*40 for masters, 2 summons at 25 sp, thats 3000-7*40-25*2*10=2220
Maybe not the intended solution, but it shows that summon earth is powerful. I tried something with firewall too, but those things dissapear after 2 rounds, so theyre roughly as mana efficient as cieles arrow
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kasparov
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 02:39 PM |
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just a little reminder
remember to post your score so you can compare it with other ppl's.
also nice thinking there bjorn!
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bjorn190
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted July 31, 2003 02:45 PM |
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Its from a map I made called "zombie vs hydra". one guy gets level 59 taz with 99 all stats, no damage spells, no cure, no tent, just boost spells like prayer and so on.
the only way to win is to slow the hydra, use weakness on it, cast prayer, stone skin, bloodlust, all that..
and hit&run the hydra with a boosted zombie. The zombie wins just barely.
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kasparov
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 02:47 PM |
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Its from a map I made called "zombie vs hydra". one guy gets level 59 taz with 99 all stats, no damage spells, no cure, no tent, just boost spells like prayer and so on.
the only way to win is to slow the hydra, use weakness on it, cast prayer, stone skin, bloodlust, all that..
and hit&run the hydra with a boosted zombie. The zombie wins just barely.
sounds interesting
i got one thats even funnier, i did a utopia with one sprite. guess how i did it. there are 2 answers to this question.
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bjorn190
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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted July 31, 2003 02:48 PM |
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Sorry my solution is wrong  I didnt read about the opp hero sorry
ok I put 1 sprite on sir muelich and kite those unicorns around for about 100 000 turns until they are all dead, waiting and striking, using the no-retal and flying ability to damage them without taking damage. creature hp=3 total score= 2997
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Roadrunner
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 31, 2003 03:35 PM |
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Sorry my solution is wrong I didnt read about the opp hero sorry
ok I put 1 sprite on sir muelich and kite those unicorns around for about 100 000 turns until they are all dead, waiting and striking, using the no-retal and flying ability to damage them without taking damage. creature hp=3 total score= 2997
Can someone take a Quality Point from Bjorn for this?
What about the spells, in the durations of 1 slow your sprite kills 1 unicorn (maybe...).
You need 2000 slows, a little brain using can be good sometimes.
I take some grand elves, archery luck and leadership, slow bless and haste - but im 100% too lazy to test the result...
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Sniper
Known Hero
Dark paladin of Deyja
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posted July 31, 2003 03:40 PM |
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qp is not a thing to be taken if someone makes a bad test or doesnt agree with someone else , u noob ! lol
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Roadrunner
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 31, 2003 04:05 PM |
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i forgot to add that ranged units only work if you are allowed an ammo cart, if so i use grandelves, 1 mage for spell cost reducing and 1 fast unit to chase the unicorns around.
Also replace leadership with earth magic since i have to use the spirit of oppression.
If no ammo cart than i use firewall, landmine and such...boom theres only half of the unicorns left i guess
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bjorn190
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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted July 31, 2003 05:16 PM |
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hmm yea thats right.. I think I would need slow I guess
How about this: 6 archdevils, doing an average of 56*6=336 damage every 2nd turn, thats 14 slows needed thats 1200 hps creatures, and 70 mana used, total score = 1100 
And thats not counting the offence and luck that I use... its probably even less mana used.
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 05:19 PM |
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yep u r right i missing math, but i am also missing some exitment..
/Archie
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bjorn190
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted July 31, 2003 05:23 PM |
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Im using 2 sprites and sir muelich. one sprite lures the uicorns, one sprite wait-and-strikes
thast 6 hps used, thats 2994 total score
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bjorn190
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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted July 31, 2003 05:28 PM |
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(quote]sounds interesting
i got one thats even funnier, i did a utopia with one sprite. guess how i did it. there are 2 answers to this question.
Well.. probably more than two answers, but Im not sure.
1. Get speed 17+ on the sprite with speed arts, sir muelich, Angelic alliance etc..
then it varies, all these could be used..
a. Possibly Armageddons blade coupled with orb of vulnerability (not sure if resist against from blade is negated by orb)
b. Force field and alooooooooooooooooot of mana.
c. Summon earth and possibly ressurection
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kasparov
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 31, 2003 06:48 PM |
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guess what!i am still up!Zzzzzzzz been losing chess games like crazy...
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Im using 2 sprites and sir muelich. one sprite lures the uicorns, one sprite wait-and-strikes
thast 6 hps used, thats 2994 total score
if it really worked, good for you, congrats! well not since the discovery of [deleted] has your wrist hurt that much,eh?. little fact, that battle would last 2000*110*2=440000 rounds!
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Well.. probably more than two answers, but Im not sure.
1. Get speed 17+ on the sprite with speed arts, sir muelich, Angelic alliance etc..
then it varies, all these could be used..
a. Possibly Armageddons blade coupled with orb of vulnerability (not sure if resist against from blade is negated by orb)
b. Force field and alooooooooooooooooot of mana.
c. Summon earth and possibly ressurectionQuote:
nope...both of ur answers are wrong. i will give you the cheap(but correct) answer then (try to figure the other one out)
all the dragons have been already killed...my hero goes in there with one sprite and gets all the arties and $$$...
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