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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Tazar vs Crag Hack
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Mariusheroes3
Mariusheroes3

Tavern Dweller
posted September 24, 2020 09:16 PM

Poll Question:
Tazar vs Crag Hack

What do you think about those 2 outstanding heroes?
Which one is better in your opinion?
In one of the next movies i will try to explain about my choice and tell few things more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8RJgmYBfaE

By now i hope you enjoy the video and will comment in this thread aswell about the bonus

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Tazar
Crag hack
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Kerebron
Kerebron

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The Beholder
posted September 25, 2020 02:23 AM

Out of these two? Gundula.

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RMZ1989
RMZ1989


Supreme Hero
posted September 25, 2020 07:07 PM

Oh, this topic again. Nice.
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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 25, 2020 07:15 PM

Yeah this topic is as old as the game itself and have probably been done a thousand times before.
With Armorer/Air Shield bug: Crag Hack
Without Armorer/Air Shield bug: Tazar

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Mariusheroes3
Mariusheroes3

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posted September 26, 2020 12:12 AM

Yes, the topic is as old as the world, but people often compared them in unreal conditions, such as 70lvl, or in a clash with their native army.

I checked them at 20lvl, with same army, and same amount of attack/defense stasistics.

The subject is more complicated, and is not limited to your choice only if with or without bugs (hota didn't fix them?) I have my own opinion, and I will develop it in the next video about the best Heroes 3 characters, now I'd like to know your choice and why

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AlexSpl
AlexSpl


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted September 26, 2020 12:44 AM

If we talk about secondary skills, such as Logistics and Earth Magic, Tazar is a better choice than Crag Hack, because

a) Tazar gets Basic Logistics + Basic Earth Magic in 5,67 level-ups in average, while Crag Hack in 6,44 level-ups (9th place vs 51st place in the rating of all heroes);

b) Tazar gets Expert Logistics + Expert Earth Magic in 9,95 level-ups in average, while Crag Hack in 10,54 level-ups (6th place vs 11th place in the rating of all heroes).

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massmarines1
massmarines1

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posted September 26, 2020 02:38 PM

I prefer Hack, because Offense helps against the map, while Armorer really only helps at the very beginning with a lvl 6 Stack and FAT.

But they are both great, but I still prefer Log-specialists.

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
posted September 27, 2020 12:24 PM

Tazar is great in late game against high level heroes. His armor reduce all physical damage his troops take. Also work great in anti magic/orb of inhibition battles with armor of the dammned + orb of vulnerability.
While Mr. Hack only increase melee damage.
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firespirit
firespirit


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with warm hands
posted September 27, 2020 12:32 PM

Vs. map early and mid-game, Crag Hack
Vs. player in the end game, Tazar
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Xervis
Xervis

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posted October 06, 2020 03:52 AM

Does Mephala rate a mention in this race?
I always play Rampart, and it has always crossed my brain if she's in the same league as Tazar...
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Mariusheroes3
Mariusheroes3

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posted October 06, 2020 05:41 AM
Edited by Mariusheroes3 at 09:42, 06 Oct 2020.

Xervis said:
Does Mephala rate a mention in this race?
I always play Rampart, and it has always crossed my brain if she's in the same league as Tazar...


Mephala got few inconviences that makes her a Little less worthy :

1. She is a ranger, meaning she is much more defensive than rest of the classes, but still not as much powerful. F.e. Tazar on level 10 will has stats like 2/10/1/2, on the other hand Mephala will has 4/8/2/1.

2. As a ranger she has got much more propability to get water magic skill(that we dont like)

3. She starts with a leadership, that is not creepy skill, but at the beggining there is many others that has much more value f. e. Tactic, earth magic, offense etc. It means Crag or Tazar can advance in those faster and gain tempo on the map.

But still she is a great choice as an end game hero

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Supreme Hero
posted October 06, 2020 11:09 AM

Mariusheroes3 said:


Mephala got few inconviences that makes her a Little less worthy :

1. She is a ranger, meaning she is much more defensive than rest of the classes, but still not as much powerful. F.e. Tazar on level 10 will has stats like 2/10/1/2, on the other hand Mephala will has 4/8/2/1.

2. As a ranger she has got much more propability to get water magic skill(that we dont like)

3. She starts with a leadership, that is not creepy skill, but at the beggining there is many others that has much more value f. e. Tactic, earth magic, offense etc. It means Crag or Tazar can advance in those faster and gain tempo on the map.

But still she is a great choice as an end game hero


Pretty much this. Overall, Meph is quite compareable to Tazar, but the main advantage for Tazar is the fact that he starts with only one (good) skill, therefore giving you opportunity to have more meaningfull skills faster (while also having more freedom to build what he desires in the end. )

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Mariusheroes3
Mariusheroes3

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posted October 06, 2020 12:52 PM

Hourglass said:
Mariusheroes3 said:


Mephala got few inconviences that makes her a Little less worthy :

1. She is a ranger, meaning she is much more defensive than rest of the classes, but still not as much powerful. F.e. Tazar on level 10 will has stats like 2/10/1/2, on the other hand Mephala will has 4/8/2/1.

2. As a ranger she has got much more propability to get water magic skill(that we dont like)

3. She starts with a leadership, that is not creepy skill, but at the beggining there is many others that has much more value f. e. Tactic, earth magic, offense etc. It means Crag or Tazar can advance in those faster and gain tempo on the map.

But still she is a great choice as an end game hero


Pretty much this. Overall, Meph is quite compareable to Tazar, but the main advantage for Tazar is the fact that he starts with only one (good) skill, therefore giving you opportunity to have more meaningfull skills faster (while also having more freedom to build what he desires in the end. )


Thats what i said in the 3rd point. One skill is sometimes plus sometines minut, cause with 2 skills on basic level you got more chances to advance on better skills, but sometimes you just got one chance to pick one, cause on JC there is many creepy skills like eagle eye, luck etc.
But on JK Tazar> Mephala just a little

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted October 06, 2020 02:41 PM

Tazar better pray not to get Learning, First Aid etc.
I would still prefer him over Mephala, though both are excellent heroes.

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JeromeReeves
JeromeReeves

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posted July 26, 2022 08:28 PM

Where can I find good cheats, without viruses and miner programs?

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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted July 27, 2022 08:10 AM
Edited by Ghost at 08:13, 27 Jul 2022.

Tazar and Crag Hack are sucking. I choose Mephala, Neela and Gundula. Why? If I want to get the best skills, so I choose what skills are offering, if I've one skill, I can't control the skills, when it offers, so I don't want a skill, but I must update Expert, and then it offers terrible skills, if I would be two skills are easier to update skill. I reject also Jeddite, even if 2lvl hero gets Earth. But I've experienced in the past. Ok now your question which one I choose? Heroes 3 Complete taught Crag Hack that terrible skill doesn't matter, he's the best hero. Remember if skill offers Eagle Eye and Learning, you must take a Learning, because it is might, and you get a control is much better than the hangman Tazar gets doomed skill without control possibly, if 3lvl Tazar gets Eagle Eye or First Aid, remember First Aid is warfare aka might, but it is process, I don't like better hero.. If you are playing WoG/ERA, so First Aid is OP, and if your option also enabled Time of Market and/or Witch Hut, you can abandon your skill. Maybe Tazar is the best in WoG/ERA, because of First Aid.. Yes WoG/ERA is deeper variation.. Depends your rule.. Fun!
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TatumLang
TatumLang

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posted August 03, 2022 04:16 PM
Edited by TatumLang at 12:27, 04 Aug 2022.

JeromeReeves said:
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heymlich
heymlich


Famous Hero
posted August 04, 2022 01:04 PM

The weird thing about this is:

Fortress has mostly melee units with tons of HP and low offensive stat. They will greatly profit from the Offense special. I would prefer Hack.

While due to its special ability, Strongholds lvl 7 unit doesn't profit that much from Offense and their lvl 6 is ranged. With Stronghold I would prefer Tazar.

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted August 04, 2022 01:44 PM

For what it's worth I agree with Ghost.
Not with the Jeddite part (Dungeon magic heroes aren't as bad as most of the other magic classes and at least Jeddite doesn't start with a wasted skill), but with a view on the two in question here.

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Zaio-Baio
Zaio-Baio


Promising
Famous Hero
posted August 04, 2022 08:59 PM
Edited by Zaio-Baio at 21:00, 04 Aug 2022.

If you manage to get both tazar and crag hack, level them up to level 4 to see who has the better skills and choose him as main. Ideally you want a strong secondary skill (offense, armorer, logistics, tactics) and earth magic.

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