|
| Thread: Unlearning skills in H3/HotA |  This thread is pages long: 1 2 · «PREV |
|
Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
|
posted June 01, 2025 05:08 AM |
|
|
When it's easy, play it.. But WoG script has showed that idea isn't good and fair..
____________
Fight MWMs - stand teach
|
|
AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 07:23 AM |
|
Edited by AlexSpl at 08:01, 01 Jun 2025.
|
Quote:
What, just typing nwcgrail? I couldn't get it to work.
Run you game with /nwcgrail key. You can add the key directly after the path to your game's executable, like this -
"D:\3DO\Games\Horn of the Abyss 1.7.2\h3hota HD.exe" /nwcgrail
Works like a cheat menu in windowed mode.
|
|
RerryR
Promising
Supreme Hero
Researching Magic
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 08:53 AM |
|
|
LordCameron said:
RerryR said:
BTB said:
Pretty sure AH3M is the only mod with a skill unlearn function.
I won't get tired of posting it : D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyCY19DRwBA
And as usual, phoenix4ever just plays on the wrong platform.
Just play original Sagamosa and be done with it. Modding peaked there
That's a very unreflected opinion.
In many aspects, modding H3 has advanced a lot since then. Nearly every platform offers many more possibilities than it did back then, making modding much more available to more people. I can mostly speak for ERA 3, because that is what I know best, and I can say that what we currently have is so much better than it was back in the day. We have a launcher tool that automatically updates your game, it offers a mod database with many mods, where players can look for new versions, and there's a Discord forum where you get all sorts of help and input.
Sagamosa is an outdated mod, which unfortunately has many bugs. hard to play in 2025.
|
|
pellish
Famous Hero
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 11:31 AM |
|
|
AlexSpl said:
Quote:
What, just typing nwcgrail? I couldn't get it to work.
Run you game with /nwcgrail key. You can add the key directly after the path to your game's executable, like this -
"D:3DOGamesHorn of the Abyss 1.7.2h3hota HD.exe" /nwcgrail
Works like a cheat menu in windowed mode.
Interesting. Thanks for this!
|
|
LordCameron
Famous Hero
Veteran of the Succession Wars
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 07:43 PM |
|
|
RerryR said:
LordCameron said:
RerryR said:
BTB said:
Pretty sure AH3M is the only mod with a skill unlearn function.
I won't get tired of posting it : D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyCY19DRwBA
And as usual, phoenix4ever just plays on the wrong platform.
Just play original Sagamosa and be done with it. Modding peaked there
That's a very unreflected opinion.
In many aspects, modding H3 has advanced a lot since then. Nearly every platform offers many more possibilities than it did back then, making modding much more available to more people. I can mostly speak for ERA 3, because that is what I know best, and I can say that what we currently have is so much better than it was back in the day. We have a launcher tool that automatically updates your game, it offers a mod database with many mods, where players can look for new versions, and there's a Discord forum where you get all sorts of help and input.
Sagamosa is an outdated mod, which unfortunately has many bugs. hard to play in 2025.
I put a little  on my post instead of in the text like I meant to. I was being tongue in cheek haha, just broke the delivery. I love ERA 3 and Advanced Classes and TUM especially.
You have to admit though, that Sagamosa was/is magical despite the horrific bugs. I'd love to see a stable remake, like Sagamosa Reborn? tried to be for the modern ERA.
____________
What are Homm Songs based on?
|
|
MattII
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 09:11 PM |
|
|
AlexSpl said:
Quote:
What, just typing nwcgrail? I couldn't get it to work.
Run you game with /nwcgrail key. You can add the key directly after the path to your game's executable, like this -
"D:3DOGamesHorn of the Abyss 1.7.2h3hota HD.exe" /nwcgrail
Works like a cheat menu in windowed mode.
How do I edit the path? Because Windows 11 won't let me add the '/' symbol in the name.
|
|
AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 09:24 PM |
|
|
Well, it's a long story.
Basically, you need to create a shortcut to your game, open its properties and then add /nwcgrail there.
|
|
MattII
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 10:30 PM |
|
Edited by MattII at 22:48, 01 Jun 2025.
|
Like from the start menu?
Edit: I can't seem to get a valid response in trying to change either the target address or the start in location.
|
|
LordCameron
Famous Hero
Veteran of the Succession Wars
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 11:10 PM |
|
|
|
Make sure there is a space between the path and /nwcgrail. Edit the target in the shortcut properties.
|
|
MattII
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted June 01, 2025 11:51 PM |
|
Edited by MattII at 00:18, 02 Jun 2025.
|
Unfortunately, all I get is a problem message saying:
Quote:
The name 'C:3DOHeroes 3 Completeh3hota HD.exe /nwcgrail' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct.
Plus, there appears to be no way to alter the executable's path string directly.
|
|
AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted June 02, 2025 01:04 AM |
|
Edited by AlexSpl at 01:08, 02 Jun 2025.
|
Then you need to learn some basic stuff about Windows. Maybe try to watch some tutorials on YouTube?
Well, my best guess -
"C:\3DO\Heroes 3 Complete\h3hota HD.exe" /nwcgrail
|
|
MattII
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted June 02, 2025 01:23 AM |
|
Edited by MattII at 01:28, 02 Jun 2025.
|
AlexSpl said:
"C:3DOHeroes 3 Completeh3hota HD.exe" /nwcgrail
And that works, somehow. Thank you.
|
|
bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted June 02, 2025 02:58 PM |
|
|
phoenix4ever said:
... or perhaps he/she should just start without unwanted skills...
Or you could just stop playing random hero, it's amazing what that would do for some of your most recent problems.
LordCameron said:
Just play original Sagamosa and be done with it. Modding peaked there
This should be reportable to the CoC somehow...
|
|
Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
|
|
posted June 02, 2025 08:30 PM |
|
|
Yes when Sagamosa bugged in WoG 3.58f.. Where I've tested in Moth Song (SoD) in first time, and I gave up.. I never heard improved version..
TUM? Author has owned his opinion that Arch Devil updates to horrible strong Hell Baron, thus author took 100HP out.. Hell Baron has 300HP in level 8, but Supreme Archangel has 500hp, Darkness Dragon has 600hp, etc Only Hell Baron is 300HP 
____________
Fight MWMs - stand teach
|
|
RerryR
Promising
Supreme Hero
Researching Magic
|
|
posted June 03, 2025 07:29 AM |
|
|
LordCameron said:
You have to admit though, that Sagamosa was/is magical despite the horrific bugs. I'd love to see a stable remake, like Sagamosa Reborn? tried to be for the modern ERA.
yes I admit, Sagamosa was ahead of its time, especially in the graphics implemented.
|
|
|
|
