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posted September 07, 2003 02:18 AM |
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eurovision contest
Thinking for your country, who would be your countrys top 5 allies and your biggest enemy? Just wondering what country is most liked and the most hated by the world, think of it as a mini eurovision without the crap music.
Ok here is Scotlands votes:
10 points would go to Ireland since we mostly came from there
8 points would go to Welsh since there near by and also hate the english (but not as much)
6 points would go to America for all there great movies and music
4 points to France for helping us throughout history (and the school trip there)
2 points go to Holland for the great holiday i had there in Amsterdam
1 point lastly i think should go to Japan as im a big fan of there movies
and the minus -5 points has to go to our old enemy England
So the scores stand as followed:
Ireland: 10
Welsh: 8
America: 6
France: 4
Holland: 2
Japan: 1
England: -5
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posted September 07, 2003 02:25 AM |
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*wonders how america can make it in a "eurovision songcontest* 
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arachnid
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posted September 07, 2003 02:31 AM |
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its a world contest since no one would want to vote for crappy countrys like slovakia and other countrys that sound made up.
Calling it a world vision contest did not really get across the ideas of the point system or the funny way in which eurovision always turns out ie countrys voting for there neighbours instead of what is the better song.
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posted September 07, 2003 02:40 AM |
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Calling it a world vision contest did not really get across the ideas of the point system or the funny way in which eurovision always turns out ie countrys voting for there neighbours instead of what is the better song.
...also known as the "greece - cyprus syndrome"
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posted September 07, 2003 02:51 AM |
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oh come on Stiven...
just because we gave each other the top points available during the last ...um... ok, during all contests... oh... I see your point
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posted September 07, 2003 11:07 AM |
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just because we gave each other the top points available during the last ...um... ok, during all contests... oh... I see your point
peace in cyprus 8 points to turkey 
and we won last year thanks
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posted September 07, 2003 01:37 PM |
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Ok, here's Romania's vote:
10 points for France - they've usually helped us out troughout history, plus: many of the leaders of the romanian revolution in 1848 got their ideas while attending university studies in France. Even now, I think most of Romania's connections and partnerships are with France.
8 points for the Roman Empire, our latin ancestors
6 points for Yugoslavia, I personally admire this country for resisting Moscow's full domination during it's comunist regime. Plus, romanians and serbs have a lot in common regarding personality and such. Oh, and I love Emir Kusturica's movies
OK, no more friends!
List of enemies:
-10 points Hungary - they still have the guts to say that Transylvania is their territory, when they actually occupied it 1400 years after our predecesors (Romans and Dacians) had established themselves here, and 100 years after the first statal formations had arisen! This is is unbelievable!
-10 points (well I'll be d****d, it's a tie!) Russia - They took a big chunk of our territory after World War Two and when they finally let go of it, "the chunk" decided it wanted to be an independent state. Thus the Republic of Moldova appeared. Ofcourse, they speak romanian, they have no history of their own whatsoever and no logical right to claim independence, but hell, is the world fair? Oh, I almost forgot, during WW2, the Russians took our national thesaurus to Moscow for "safekeeping". Needless to say they never gave it back!
-4 points Turkey - Oh, man, did we fight the turks during our history, or what? 500 years of war and they never managed to subjugate us like they did Bulgaria and Greece. We were never a turkish province! Oh, but now, our football (soccer) players seem to find a lot of success in Turkey (Hagi and Popescu won the UEFA Cup with Galatasaray in 2000) SO I'm gonna shift my vote to -4 (initially it was -8)
OK, that's about it! and it's one load off my chest !!
P.S. I hope nobody's offended. If they are, Mea Culpa and I'm sorry
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posted September 08, 2003 03:53 AM |
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and we won last year thanks
Which is nearly as illogical as allowing Israel to win it considering they're totally outside Europe and you're barely in it
Btw is it me or is this thread rapidly becoming a "tell us why you hate country X and spout some rubbish about it justifying it?" In which case, no prizes for Guessing which countries our Greek Mod would give -10 points to 
Frankly I can't think of that many countries I either love or hate, Take Scotland, yes they're a whining bunch of miserly drunken louts in general. Naturally Arachnid joins the rest of his people up there by hating the English, like we care You tried to conquer us, you lost, get over it and stop whining about how we subjugated you when you know damn well you'd have done exactly the same given 1/2 a chance
But at least they gave us decent whiskey, which bails them out in my book
Ireland.... Hmmmm given that I'm 1/8th Irish I can't exactly say much against this bunch other than I wish we'd given back the whole of that god-forsaken dump of an Island when we had half a chance. Still they gave us Father Ted and the fall guy for all those "there was this englishman, this irishman and this scotsman" jokes.
Welsh... Don't hate the english? How many welsh people have you met then Arachnid? None judging by that little statement. I'm also 1/8th Welsh, so I can't hate them much either. Sure they have dubious tastes in sexual practices and speak a langauge that has long since passed it's sell by date, but they gave us the Longbow, an excellent gift with which we were able to smite the.....
French! Ah the land of Garlic sellers, arrogance and wine allegedly. Got many, many reasons to dislike this nation, we were fighting them for the best part of 800 years on and off after all... and trouncing them most of the time too Guess we owe much of our culture and langauge to this bunch though, so I can't dislike them too much, besides they make excellent bread!
Americans... Interesting bunch, glad we got rid of them when we got the chance in the revolution, hell we even persuaded them it was THEIR idea!  Clear evidence of early american gullability there wouldn't you say? They mess with the past with their so-called "Historical" movies and the present with their apparently "ethical" policies and the future by electing morons to lead them. Clear case for a nation to hate? Nah because they're great for someone to laugh at, are full of religious lunatics (meaning they're not here mostly) and occaisionally have their uses.
Holland... Nice place, could do with a few hills higher than a mole-hill though. Don't have much against them really, nice place, mostly nice people
Japan... Can't stand their cartoons so that's a minus point, but they do invest heavily in my country, kinda means I owe them I guess.
Turkey... Thumbs up for standing up to the US in the last conflict over Iraq, something not many countries bother to do. Thumbs down for having an atrocious record on human rights
Romans... Last I checked, they're called Italians now? Anyways they get mistaken for the french in WWII, it was THIS bunch that surrendered all over the place en masse, america being america though kinda missed this and as usual mixed two close foreign contries up. Hate their footballers and teams as their fans can be VERY violent and partisan, love their food.
Yugoslavia... Now split into many, many bits and pieces. Nice, beautiful country screwed completely by politicians and soldiers in it who blasted it into pieces in a genocidal wave of illogical hatred. Kinda got many people there who have some rather dubious pasts to say the very least, and half of them aren't likely to ever come to justice either. Make nice plum brandy though...
Hungary... Don't know much about them really, then again if I recall right, all 3 of you (Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria) fought alongside Hitler for most of the last war, though you later defected, even Hungary did that if I recall as Hitler sent about 1/3 of his SS there in 1945 to prevent the coup agains the Nazi government.
Russia... Nice drinks made there, made the deadly mistake of challenging the USA for ownership of the globe. Some nice composers, trashed both napoleon and Hitler which are all good points. Have a rather silly habit of kiling too many of their own people than is healthy for them...
Romania... Dunno much about them either. Btw mate, lots of countries were never owned by Turkey  Wouldn't be to proud of my footballers serving with a football team who's fans think it's amusing to imitate slashing opposition fans throats at games if I was you though. Conn's from there, that's a good thing... I think
Greece... Nice place, lots of history, weird, lazy, disorganised people (could almost be british) kinda biased against their neighbours and overeact against those that visit them. Hot weather, hot females, nice drinks. Could do with actually working out what a CAR PARK and PAVEMENT is though in their Capital and actually teaching motorists the highway code for a change
There, not gonna give points as I both like and hate them all, but I reckon that's a good, accurate summary the pertinent points for each of them all right?
What do you mean the post is full of irrelevant points, lies half truths and xenophobic rantings? Wasn't that the point of the thread? It certainly seems to be the norm anyway, both here and at Eurovision
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posted September 08, 2003 05:19 AM |
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Here is Australia's votes:
4 points would go to England cause many of us came from English convicts.
3 points would go to America cause all there great movies, music and cars.
2 points would go to Italy for pizza, pasta, lamborghinis and ferraris
1 points to Japan for their cool TV shows, movies and martial arts.
I can't think of anyone to give minus points to.
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BoogieMan
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posted September 08, 2003 12:54 PM |
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Romania... Dunno much about them either. Btw mate, lots of countries were never owned by Turkey Wouldn't be to proud of my footballers serving with a football team who's fans think it's amusing to imitate slashing opposition fans throats at games if I was you though. Conn's from there, that's a good thing... I think
Lots of countries weren't, true, but then again, no country has had to deal for half a millenia with the attacks of the ottoman turks which were bent on conquering as much as Europe as they could grasp + they outnumbered us 5 to 1 in nearly every battle.
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posted September 08, 2003 02:27 PM |
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Lots of countries weren't, true, but then again, no country has had to deal for half a millenia with the attacks of the ottoman turks which were bent on conquering as much as Europe as they could grasp + they outnumbered us 5 to 1 in nearly every battle.
maybe its becus you go to build capitol first and ottomans build dwellings first week
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posted September 08, 2003 03:11 PM |
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Yugoslavia... Now split into many, many bits and pieces. Nice, beautiful country screwed completely by politicians and soldiers in it who blasted it into pieces in a genocidal wave of illogical hatred.
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You have mistaken. It is not about politicans and soldiers, it is about my countrie's dream to have our own nation after so many centuries. Nations that lived in Yugoslavia (I apologize to all members from Serbia, I'm not starting another fight) were not equal, and many people wished liberty.
But the country was beatuiful
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posted September 08, 2003 07:26 PM |
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no country has had to deal for half a millenia with the attacks of the ottoman turks which were bent on conquering as much as Europe as they could grasp + they outnumbered us 5 to 1 in nearly every battle.
Uhmm I hate to spoil your party, but the Greeks beat you to it on this against the persians. They did better than you as well
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I think not, YOUR reasoning for that war may have been independance, I don't think that featured to high in the reasoning of say Mr Milosevic and the various generals behind him and some of the other countries somehow though. Just a shame your drive for independance meant genocide, slaughter, destruction and instability had to come with it. Then again given the explosive nature of the area I guess we shouldn't be that suprised....
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posted September 08, 2003 07:49 PM |
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Uhmm I hate to spoil your party, but the Greeks beat you to it on this against the persians. They did better than you as well
I really don't think that Marathon and Salamine count as 500 years, mate.
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posted September 08, 2003 07:59 PM |
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When last I checked, the greeks began warring with the Descendants of the Turks sometime in the 13th Century BC with Mycenaeans against troy and whatnot? Take that to the time of City States and you have 700-350 odd (which is 500 years) before we even start on Alexanders time and you have... what 327 or something like that? Even assuming we end here that's 1000 years of conflict. 350years of almost constant conflict if you ignore even the Troy period
And I don't think driving them off counts as high as driving them back, conquering them and crushing them at every step of the way either like Alex did
Oh and 300 spartans stopped thousands of persians, which is a smidgeon more than 5 to 1
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posted September 08, 2003 08:10 PM |
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And I don't think driving them off counts as high as driving them back, conquering them and crushing them at every step of the way either like Alex did
I have a friend from Macedonia who is very insistent that Alexander the Great is in no way shape or form Greek.
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posted September 08, 2003 08:13 PM |
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True, but still, the circumstances are too different to make a relevant comparison. Plus, you somewhat drove me off the subject. I was talking about turks
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posted September 08, 2003 08:50 PM |
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Persia owned a large chunk of Turkey and was considerably larger beyond that also, stretching from Turkey to the borders of india, easily rivalling in size the Ottomans who came after them thank you
And what circumstances? Greece wasn't even a united country for the vast majority of that time, they had even LESS chance than you of beating their enemies back then
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posted September 08, 2003 09:14 PM |
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Neither was Romania, there were two principalities which had no military or colonial tradition whatsoever.
The Greeks won two major battles and they would never hear from the persians again.
During Stephen the Great's 47 year rule, there have been 44 battles, all of them on our territory. The turks attacked nearly every year, they even reached Stephen's capital and set it on fire, but each time they would eventually be repelled across the Danube. Each time they attacked we had to burn our fields and poison our fountains in order to have a shot at stopping them, and then start over from scratch.
Most of our army fought with wood axes, scythes and pitch-forks. The peasants were gathered from their fields to defend their land against one of the best organized, trained and equipped armies of those times, while spartans were trained in the arts of war since childhood. So don't talk about chances
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posted September 08, 2003 10:25 PM |
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Neither was Romania, there were two principalities which had no military or colonial tradition whatsoever.
2 principalities? Greece had nothing more than city states, and half the time they didn't even ally themselves to the other. Hardly a case of divided into two, for a lot of that period you're talking more 5 or 6 main states in greece.
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The Greeks won two major battles and they would never hear from the persians again.
That's because they had the common sense to thrash them when they did beat them, teaching them a lesson they wouldn't forget in a hurry you know?
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During Stephen the Great's 47 year rule, there have been 44 battles, all of them on our territory
Care to list the battles fought by Alexander? I mean assuming how many exactly per side is counted as a "battle" by your terminology.
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turks attacked nearly every year, they even reached Stephen's capital and set it on fire, but each time they would eventually be repelled across the Danube.
That just shows your inability to teach them a lasting lesson
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Each time they attacked we had to burn our fields and poison our fountains in order to have a shot at stopping them, and then start over from scratch.
Ever considered beating them thoroughly on the field of battle and counter invading? A la Alexander?
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Most of our army fought with wood axes, scythes and pitch-forks
That just goes to show the total lack of foresight of your leaders. Guns or longbows would seem to be in order no?
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The peasants were gathered from their fields to defend their land against one of the best organized, trained and equipped armies of those tim
Whoopy do, wouldn't it make more sense to be "the best organized, trained and equipped armies of those time" though? After all we did that to the french in the hundred years war... With peasants I may add, only we tended to use archers a little...
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So don't talk about chances
The inneficency, poor judgement and lack of foresight of your leaders is no reason to claim you had no chance, should of got better ones
BTW the greeks consisted of more than sparta, Greece was more than 1 or two city states, and greek history includes more than "2 battles" against the persians or their allies.
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