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alcibiades
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posted December 08, 2006 09:55 PM |
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Well, I think this pretty much sums up the problem with this town: There is no suitable creature for base race. Sure, having the Yeti as a creature would be great, but having all different sorts of Yety would be to stress the credibility too much - Yeti are beasts, not humanoids. And I can't see any of the "important" humanoid races - Human, Elf, Drow, Dwarf, Orc - fit in here, except the Dwarves who are already there.
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posted December 08, 2006 10:10 PM |
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again, Alcabiades kills the joy out of the topic
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posted December 08, 2006 11:56 PM |
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Alc first, please only post if you have something nice to same OR say it lightly
Second, how do you get Quality points, i am now a Famous Hero but nothing on Quality points , how did you get 5?
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posted December 09, 2006 12:29 AM |
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I think that drarwen base is good because it's a very local town base.
From dwarves base you can create so many creatures that won't be the same and won't be boaring.
Yeti base is not a local base.
From the Yeti base you can create one creature, maximum 2.
You need a town to have a variety.
And Alc, try to not offend our creators.
Criticism isn't a bad thing, but after a hard work, it's hard to hear what you say sometimes.
In hebrew, there's a huge difference between building criticism and destructing criticism.
Try to use the building criticism. 
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alcibiades
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posted December 09, 2006 03:53 AM |
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Well I feel I have to get something straight here. First of, I know I'm sometimes harsh - and when I am, it's usually on purpose - in this case I did not intend to be harsh (i.e. no personal criticism), and re-reading my post, I still can't see anything in the post that could be understood as personal criticism.
Secondly, I have no intentions to kill any fun just for killing the fun - I will give my personal oppinion, and in most of my posts I actually carefully stress that what I give is my personal oppinion. You have all the right in the world to just disregard my oppinion, and you should, if you think I'm wrong - many subjects here have continued for 5, 10, 15 or 20 pages even though I didn't care for the original subject - and that's how it should be. After all, if you stop the subject because of my criticism, that's in a way proving me right in what I say ...
Also, you must take into account that we all come here with a different background. I'm a Heroes 3 fanatic with many years of Role-playing history behind me. That naturally flavours my oppinions in many of my posts. I generally have a strictly annalytical approach to what ever subject is in discussion, and will try to relate the subject to the bounds and rules of the known and accepted fantasy worlds. To give an example, when I dismis the Yeti as a good candidate for an Ice race in this thread, it's neither to affront anybody or to make less of the one who made the suggestion - but simply because the Yeti aren't suited for such if you look at how this creature is described in most role-playing worlds (that I'm familiar with) - and I therefore feel that the Yeti in the role of main city race would stress my, and thereby other role-players, sense of credibility. And I still feel the concept of a Yeti armed with a sling to be rather hilarious.
And finally, don't forget the language barrier. There are a lot of misunderstandings on this board, which is never a good thing. I try to state my points as clearly as possible (that might sometimes make it seem rather blunt, but I will not use this as a sole excuse for my sometimes not too gentle choice of words). We should, however, be carefull not to judge each others before we are certain that we understand fully the contents of the other's posts.
There ... Now it's off my chest. And Ted, to answer your question: You get Yellow stars based on your post count. These will also determine your 'Hero Title'. Thus, 4 yellow stars (or 400-800 posts, I think) corresponds to Famous Hero, whereas 5 yellow stars (800-1600 posts) corresponds to Supreme Hero. The Red stars, on the other hand, is your quality point count. The Quality Points (QP) are awarded by the Moderators for particularly wothwile posts - for examples, see the list in the top of the forum, or click on the avatar of a member with many QP's and select the link called 'Bonuses' to see which posts that particular member received bonus points in. I should say, however, that the Moderators have all been very busy with none-board work lately, and therefore there's been a lack of QP's awarded in a long time. Lich King has promised to try to catch up before too long.
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posted December 09, 2006 10:52 AM |
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generally speaking, the yeti are only as primitive or animalistic as we make them to be. i've played a few games (some of them cooked up by a friend of mine) that have dwarves and elves and primitive as can be, whilst creatures like orcs are at the height of enlightenment. its all a matter of what we do with the creature.
or, failing that, the Academy made lost of beast men, as well as centuars and minotaurs, we could use some of them...like gnolls, as well as yetis.
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posted December 09, 2006 12:23 PM |
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. i've played a few games (some of them cooked up by a friend of mine) that have dwarves and elves and primitive as can be, whilst creatures like orcs are at the height of enlightenment. its all a matter of what we do with the creature.
Sure it is. But I also think we both agree that an approach like that you mention is very untraditional, and probably would make a lot of fans protest.
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posted December 09, 2006 03:37 PM |
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Alc, let me reintroduce you. Alc, this is HEROES V.
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alcibiades
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posted December 09, 2006 04:08 PM |
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I know it is. But tell me, does they not all follow the same general trends? For instance, wouldn't you raise your eyebrows if they changed the Orcs to play the role of peace-loving inhabitants of the forst kingdoms, and the Elves to be blood-thirsty Barbarians? I know the game doesn't have to be a slave of the excisting norms, but sticking to them makes it a little more believable.
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posted December 09, 2006 08:35 PM |
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i see your point, but alot of people cry out for something different from the same old fantasy gerne. i think adding Yetis as a faction will be very interesting.
they don't have to be a particularly civilised faction. on the contrary, they could be armed with clubs, sticks and nothing more, but using them in some way will be interesting.
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posted December 09, 2006 10:28 PM |
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Sure, it's always nice to have something fresh, and I think the Yeti is a wonderfull idea. I'm not sure the Yeti can bear an entire faction, but go ahead and prove me wrong. But arming a Yeti with a sling will just look very silly I think - I mean, Halflings use sligns, Yeti don't. 
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posted December 09, 2006 11:04 PM |
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ok, so not slingers, instead, ice shooters!
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posted December 10, 2006 12:15 AM |
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ok, so not slingers, instead, ice shooters!
good call, lets remember were Yetis come from, although a mounted Yeti? eh when in Rome
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posted December 10, 2006 10:07 AM |
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when did i say the Yeti's would be mounted?
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posted December 10, 2006 11:02 AM |
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I'll say it.
Yetis should be mauntain creatures.
Icy mauntian, ofcourse.
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posted December 10, 2006 05:42 PM |
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I disagree. Yetis should be in stony mountians. Let them be stoned.
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alcibiades
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posted December 10, 2006 06:13 PM |
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I disagree. Yetis should be in stony mountians. Let them be stoned.
Which would put them in the Drugged faction rather than the Icy faction, wouldn't it?
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posted December 10, 2006 06:17 PM |
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Oh. That didn't come out the way I Planned it.
Btw, does anyone else think the Drugs faction is really annoying?
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posted December 11, 2006 05:53 PM |
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Oh. That didn't come out the way I Planned it.
Btw, does anyone else think the Drugs faction is really annoying?
 i dont its only for fun anyhow, if you dont like it, dont post in it, i am thinking of an Atlantis themed faction anyway
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posted December 17, 2006 02:44 PM |
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Hi! I just made a new idea about a new fraction wich is called: The Frost Castle.
Just to show you my suggestions to this:
The Creatures:
Level 1: Miner / Veteran Miner
Dwellings name: Mines / Exhaustless Mines
Attack: 2 / 3
Defense: 1 / 1
HP: 7 / 9
Damage: 1-2 / 2-2
Speed: 6 / 7
Initiative: 7 / 8
Mana: 0 / 0
Abilities: Primary Producer: Every 3 days the capitol recives one random resource ( Wood, Ore, Gem, Mercury, Crystal or Sulfur); Boost: Every 3 days as he produces one source the damage of the veteran miner would be doubled. (only by Veteran Miner)
„³ Hidden Mines: +6 Miner / Veteran Miner per week.
Level 2: Trapper / Trapmaster (or Sly Trapper)
Dwellings name: Abandoned hide-out / Trapped hide-out
Attack: 2 / 3
Defense: 1 / 2
HP: 10 / 12
Damage: 1-2 / 2-3
Speed: 5 / 5
Initaitive: 8 / 8
Mana: 0 / 0
Shots: 5 / 6
Abilities: Shooter, No Meele Penalty, Run-up: When this ability is used and an enemy unit is choosen, this creature will run forward 3 squares and will shoot at the selected unit with doubled damage. Random Traps: Active ability. Before the combat, the creature puts down randomly some traps. They can have three different effects: Reducing Defense (-20%), Reducing Initiative (-20%) or Reducing Attack (-20%). (only by Trapmaster / Sly Trapper)
Level 3: Rust Warrior / Granite Warrior
Dwellings name: Ruined barracks / Renovated barracks (or Granit barracks)
Attack: 5 / 5
Defense: 3 / 10
HP: 19 / 24
Damage: 3-4 / 4-4
Speed: 5 / 5
Initiative: 7 / 8
Mana: 0 / 0
Abilities: Enraged, Rusted Weapon: By every meele attack this creature decreases the defense of the attacked unit by 30%. (only by Rust Warrior) Block: There is a chance (50%) that the creature will block the hit of the enemy units. Magic-proof 75% (only by Granite Warrior)
Level 4: Blue Wizard / Azure Wizard
Dwellings name: Archaic Observatory / Monumental Observatory
Attack: 8 / 10
Defense: 8 / 8
HP: 24 / 30
Damage: 6-9 / 8-11
Speed: 7 / 7
Initiative: 9 / 10
Mana: 15 / 20
Shots: 0 / 0
Abilities: Caster, Spellbook: Eldricht Arrow, Deflect Missile, Magical Immunity. Aura of Destructive Magic Resistance: Each creature standing near to this creature gains 30% magic resistance against damaging spells. (only by Azure Wizard)
Level 5: Falcon Archer / Falcon Sharpshooter
Dwellings Name: Archer lookout / Sharpshooter lookout
Attack: 13 / 16
Defense: 13 / 13
HP: 60 / 75
Damage: 6-10 / 8-12
Speed: 8 / 8
Initiative: 10 / 12
Mana: 0 / 0
Shots: 5 / 6
Abilities: Shooter, No Enemy Relitation; First Srtike: Whenever an enemy unit wants to damage this creature, the enemy unit recivesthe hit at first; Perfect Aiming: This creature causes maximal damage in any distance. (only by Falcon Sharpshooter)
Level 6: Snow Demon / Ice Demon
Dwellings name: Icy tarn / Frozen tarn
Attack: 19 / 20
Defense: 19 / 24
HP: 105 / 105
Damage: 21-26/ 26-32
Speed: 5 / 5
Initiative: 9 / 10
Mana: 0 / 0
Abilities: Large Creature, Elemental, Immune to Cold, Freezing: By every meele attack, this creature has a chance (30%) to freeze the attacked enemy unit. Freezed units lose the half of their defense and they won¡¦t be able to move till 2 turns (only by Ice demon); Ice Spikes: If an enemy unit attacks this creature, they will get an ice-damage. The measure of the damage depens on the number of the cratures. (one Ice demon causes 5 ice-damage) (only by Ice demon)
Level 7: Mountain Giant / Frost Giant
Dwellings name: Mountain lair / Frost lair
Attack: 28 / 30
Defense: 30 / 32
HP: 195 / 215
Damage: 40-60 / 50-60
Speed: 4 / 5
Initiative: 10 / 11
Mana: 0 / 0
Abilities: Large Creature, Critical Hit: After a hit, the attacked unit suffers an additional damage.(Normal damage/3 which is valid for lucky hit, too.) Wall Smash: This craeture is able to smash castle walls during a siege. Call Stone Spikes: Activated ability. This creature is able to call Stone Spikes from the earth by punching the ground during combats which can have speed-decreasing effect. (30% chance) (only by Frost Giant)
It's a good idea although it sounds a lot like academy an d fortress together. Especially the wizard and the rust warrior are academy-like and the miner sounds quite fortressy
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