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Heroes Community > Heroes 8+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Neutral, Creatures and Factions - Basic Concepts and Ideas for next Addon
Thread: Neutral, Creatures and Factions - Basic Concepts and Ideas for next Addon This thread is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 · «PREV / NEXT»
bixie
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posted January 27, 2007 07:28 PM

i think those sound really cool just make sure you can make them (p.s. samurai's and ninjas weren't chinese, but japanese!)

just one thing, be careful when you are doing a japanese town. look here for Amastu for more information about japanese myth based towns. alternatively, go here for the legends of the tailed beasts for ideas for creatures!
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posted January 27, 2007 07:35 PM

What about a Mind flayer and Beholder town (those that played Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark know what I'm talking about).

Mind flayers are humanoid monsters with tentacles instead of mouth (used to suck brains from enemies), with telekinetic abilities and live underground. Of course they have a monstrosity appearance, but I can't describe them here. Here are some pics: clicky and clicky.
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Heine
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posted January 27, 2007 07:38 PM

Thanks anyway folks

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posted January 27, 2007 07:42 PM

Damn.. I really liked them for neutrals and with various abilities

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bixie
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posted January 27, 2007 07:43 PM

hey, ashrah, have a look back and see the ones that we all cooked up, including my carnival of freaks, the high valley of golem crafter and many others!
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posted January 27, 2007 07:43 PM

I remember the Mind Flayers had an overmind in NWN.

Telekinetic abilities:

Stun - resets the target's ATB to 0
Teleport - you know the spell, but this one works on enemy units too
Frenzy and Puppet Master

Also, all Mind Flayers should have the 'suck brains' ability: when a Mind Flayer attacks, it has a chance to suck the enemy's brains and thus making it unable to think (move, attack, etc) for some turns; if they suck the brains, they also feed on them and thus regenerate or even ressurect dead Mind Flayers.

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Heine
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posted January 27, 2007 07:45 PM

OH! I almost forgot that one ... Egyptian! Mabye that have been better .. or, just as good?

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posted January 27, 2007 09:04 PM

lots of good ideas Heine, you have a future here already,

i really like the idea of a japanese town, but it would be hard to make, i suppose in time
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Heine
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posted January 27, 2007 10:24 PM

I'm sorry folks ... I can't download pictures


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bixie
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my common sense is tingling!
posted January 27, 2007 10:41 PM

hey, don't sweet it, do you see any pictures of halflings or trolls?, just provide a description of what they look like, and let the people use their imaginations
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posted January 27, 2007 11:22 PM

using your imagination is a bad thing, if i pictured something, but couldnt find a pic of it, bixie would have no clue what it would look like and then it would take 20 minutes saying whats good and bad about my hobbits

and also dont carried away with your custame status, give it time
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Heine
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posted January 27, 2007 11:43 PM

Ok. This is what I might think have been a good Chinese/Japanese faction:

Lvl. 1
Agumer


The farmer is a medium tall man with short black hair and the classical chinese/japanese flat hat (you know what I mean)
He is thin but got some muscels. White shirt, orange west and a skin belt (small). No shoes. Long white pants. On his back he has a kargo with long-grass. In his hand his got a "bo", a long wooden stick he attack with. Atc. 1 - 3 Spe. (1 - 10) 5

Lvl.1 Upg
Special Agumer

The special Agumer is at the same size as Agumer, but a lot more muscles. He do not wear any shirt, but shot pants thats reach over he's knees and no shoes. As weapon he have a skewer at the same size as the bo. Atc. 1 - 5 Spe. (1 - 10) 5

I'll write more later ... at nordic time the clock is 11:42 pm.
So ... Goodnight.

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posted January 28, 2007 02:31 AM

Quote:
Quote:
What about a Mind flayer and Beholder town (those that played Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark know what I'm talking about).

Mind flayers are humanoid monsters with tentacles instead of mouth (used to suck brains from enemies), with telekinetic abilities and live underground. Of course they have a monstrosity appearance, but I can't describe them here. Here are some pics: clicky and clicky.


Mind flayers are made up by wizards of the coast/D&D so homm can't use them, they have copyright.


Are you sure they are in fact copyrighted? They have used a lot of creatures already that are basically taken from D&D.

Anyway, the Mind Flayer / Beholder idea is imo. by far one of the more qualified suggestions that have come up lately.
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Heine
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posted January 28, 2007 01:11 PM

Ok. This is what I might think have been a good Chinese/Japanese faction:

This is the faction symbol:
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Faction colors: Red, orange, dark brown.






Lvl. 1
Agumer


The farmer is a medium tall man with short black hair and the classical chinese/japanese flat hat (you know what I mean)
He is thin but got some muscels. White shirt, orange west, a skin belt (small) and some thin ropes hanging from his arms, legs and neck. No shoes. Long white pants. On his back he has a kargo with long-grass. In his hand his got a "bo", a long wooden stick he attack with. Atc. 1 - 3 Spe. (1 - 10) 5

Lvl.1 Upg
Special Agumer

The special Agumer is at the same size as Agumer, but a lot more muscles. He have a tatoo of the faction symbol on his arm and a yin-yan sign hanging in a thin rope from his neck. He do not wear any shirt, but shot pants thats reach over he's knees and no shoes. As weapon he have a skewer at the same size as the bo. No kargo.
Atc. 1 - 5 Spe. (1 - 10) 5

Lvl. 2
Hankyu

Hankyu is the japanese archer. He weares a solid helmet made of gold and gold plates on his legs. A long orange west, hanging around his neck and goes down to his ankels. A yellow shirt and yellow/red pants with skin shoes. A rope around his waist and a short knife hanging on it to attack in close combat. And in his hand he got his bow, which carry the same name as the archer, and on his back he got the arrows. Atc. 1 - 4  Spe. 5

lvl.2 upg.
Shuriken warrior

The Shuriken warrior is at the just same size as Hankyu. He do not wear any helmet, but he has a short, black hair. He weares a kind of black karate suit with the faction symbol in white on the chest.
The Shuriken (All known as ninja star) is hanging from his belt.
They are more like the ninja stars from "Naruto".

And on his back he got a long bamboo stick for close combats.

Write more later (again) ...

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bixie
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posted January 28, 2007 01:31 PM

yay, naruto!
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relentless
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posted January 28, 2007 02:50 PM

Why humans? There are plenty of other races out there.

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Heine
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posted January 28, 2007 06:23 PM

Nihon

Ok. This is what I might think have been a good Chinese/Japanese faction:

Nihon

Here is Faction Symbol:


Faction colors: Red, orange, dark brown.



Lvl. 1
Agumer


The farmer is a medium tall man with short black hair and the classical chinese/japanese flat hat (you know what I mean)
He is thin but got some muscels. White shirt, orange west, a skin belt (small) and some thin ropes hanging from his arms, legs and neck. No shoes. Long white pants. On his back he has a kargo with long-grass. In his hand his got a "bo", a long wooden stick he attack with. Atc. 1 - 3 Spe. 5 Def. 2    Special combat ability: None

Lvl.1 Upg
Special Agumer

The special Agumer is at the same size as Agumer, but a lot more muscles. He have a tatoo of the faction symbol on his arm and a yin-yan sign hanging in a thin rope from his neck. He do not wear any shirt, but shot pants thats reach over he's knees and no shoes. As weapon he have a skewer at the same size as the bo. No kargo.
Atc. 1 - 5 Spe. 5 Def. 3 Range Atc. 2 - 3
Special combat ability: Yarin Throw (Throw a spear)

Lvl. 2
Hankyu

Hankyu is the japanese archer. He weares a solid helmet made of gold and gold plates on his legs. A long orange west, hanging around his neck and goes down to his ankels. A yellow shirt and yellow/red pants with skin shoes. A rope around his waist and a short knife hanging on it to attack in close combat. And in his hand he got his bow, which carry the same name as the archer, and on his back he got the arrows. Combat Atc. 1 - 4 Range Atc. 1 - 4  Spe. 5 Def. 5
Special combat ability: None

lvl.2 upg.
Shuriken warrior (pic. page 12)

The Shuriken warrior is at the just same size as Hankyu. He do not wear any helmet, but he has a short, black hair. He weares a kind of black karate suit with the faction symbol in white on the chest.
The Shuriken (All known as ninja star) is hanging from his belt.
They are more like the ninja stars from "Naruto".
And on his back he got a long bamboo stick for close combats.
Combat Atc. 2 - 3 Range Atc. 1 - 5 - 6 Def. 5 Spe. 6
Special combat ability: Shuriken Rain (Shuriken warrior throws lots of shurikens on enemy, covering three fields Damage dealt 6 - 7 -8)
Kunai (The Shuriken warrior changes weapon to Kunai)


lvl.3
Ninja

The Ninja is the Japanese scout, which means that his moves are very slow and attacks are really fast. His suit is a little bit like the Shuriken warriors  suit, except it is thinner and on his legs and arms it is bands. Skin shoes and middle long hair and no hood.
In his hand he got a classical Ninja-sword.
Atc. 3 - 4 Def. 6 Spe. 7 Special combat ability: Melee (Ninja puts away the sword and start attacking with hands and feets. Atc. 2 - 4)

lvl.3 upg.
Sensei Ninja

Sensei Ninja is almost just as Ninja, same suit and same size but he has a mask. Some kind of hood, covering mouth, ears and nose, only the eyes are visible. On his biceps and legs he got thick gold plates and a big, golden faction symbol on his back and chest.
He has two ninja swords in each hand and one on his back.
Atc. 6 - 8 Def. 8 Spe. 7 Special combat ability: Melee (Ninja puts away the sword and start attacking with hands and feets. Atc. 2 - 4)
Chakra (Ninja Sensei formes a blue ball with a handform, holding   one handflate up and one down, with a space about 4o cm. Atc. 7 - 9)
Silver statue (Ninja Sensei takes the sword on his back and crush it
to dust with his very own hands, then he blows it away to a enymy, then the enymy can't move that turn. Can only be used one time that battle)



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my common sense is tingling!
posted January 28, 2007 07:56 PM

so its prodominatly ninjas with no samurai's, ronins, Kasuke, Oban's, Kitsune, Tamuri, Nekotama, Kappa's, pheonixes or anything else japanese except ninjas.

a bit lame, don't you think?

i had high expectations for this factions, but Heine, you've let yourself down on this one!

sorry, but you have!
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Heine
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posted January 28, 2007 09:37 PM

Would it help if I mabye change something and write more?

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bixie
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posted January 28, 2007 10:01 PM

listen, heine, before you do any faction, it helps to do your research about it. research on samurais, on japanese mythological creatures, on ninjas would help a faction (any faction) immensly. i had to create a elemental conflux based on japan, and i did my research, including all the names of japanese warriors, all the names for the swords and such, and i felt i had done a pretty good job of it! research is the key to alot of these things, and its good to know about the subject your talking about.

on the otherhand, i'm a history student, so i would say that!
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