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mrva_hg
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posted April 06, 2004 11:36 AM |
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I would like to say that i am playing heroes of might and magic for 7 years. No necro rule is good. All you players who playing fixed maps again and again and again dont know what is happening on random maps. You know all the turns in a game(on fixed maps). On random maps you must improvise and dont know what comes next on the road (this is fun). On fixed maps is not many creatures (just pack, maybe lots and even several). This is nothing (peace of cake) to take a mines and other stuffs. BTW you already know where is all.
Ok i just want to say that necro town have a HUGE advantage on random maps. So NO NECRO!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kilu
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 06, 2004 12:45 PM |
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All you players who playing fixed maps again and again and again dont know what is happening on random maps. You know all the turns in a game(on fixed maps).
Not everyone here has played all the fixed maps million times, thus not knowing what's behind the next corner and where are the mines that one needs.
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On fixed maps is not many creatures (just pack, maybe lots and even several). This is nothing (peace of cake) to take a mines and other stuffs.
This can be corrected by editing the map.
Just saying.
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EvilLoynis
Famous Hero
The Dark Shadow
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posted April 06, 2004 02:27 PM |
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I don't like to play any maps besides randoms now. I mean everyone has maps there good at but they just start to bore me silly since you do the same thing over and over. I mean there is always an order to do things in and if you don't do it that way your pretty much dead if the opponent does everything right. I like to play randoms since there is never any way to be sure if you should go for creatures or money first. I remeber one time when I played a Large random with under and my opponent was necro and chose Isra...by the time we met he had 6000 skeletons!!! We met just at about Month 2 Week 3 by the way, and I didn't stand a chance since I was the Fortress. I still like randoms I just think that if you opponent wants to choose necro they shouldn't be able to choose and/or use either of the Necromancy special heroes...Isra and what's her name.
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Kazak
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 06, 2004 05:59 PM |
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Who wants to play with newbie ?
On ranks
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Titan_888
Known Hero
Wind of Change
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posted April 06, 2004 06:54 PM |
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Hourglass 2... challenge shield vs. Vex... random towns... he get necro.. i get rampart.... day 2 week 1.. vex 2 necro towns... me rampart + 2 tower... i build them week 1 so i got nagash in 1 of em... week 3.. i had 24 nagash queens.. but... still alot of enemy skellies to kill.. what to do? get orb of air... orb of silt... shower + destroy undead 
GAME OVER 
Now you guys tell me... is Vex a bad player... Is necro to strong? or am i just damn lucky?
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 06, 2004 07:38 PM |
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I would say u r damn lucky...
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted April 06, 2004 08:14 PM |
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i wonder how much games consis played on multi...
its always same every years, if you are noob just read the thread, dont post stupid lists and become joke subject... ''generating 100 randommaps'' what a toss lol
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted April 06, 2004 09:04 PM |
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hey otto !  are you okay?
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted April 07, 2004 01:18 AM |
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I think the rules suxxxxx I like to play... just play without rules...
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Maximus
Famous Hero
Bronzed God
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posted April 07, 2004 04:18 AM |
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no rules........rulezzzzz
and u should play all random settings on random or fixed maps. too many town/hero picking foo's.
its quite suprising how many vets feel uncomfortable and dun like all random settings
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted April 07, 2004 08:36 AM |
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That's right, call me a tosser and say that my ideas are stupid. Is that what I deserve for trying to find a reasonable solution?
Yes, that's exactly what you deserve for posting your usual cr... stuff. Besides, there is no problem to be solved. A newbie showing up every now and then and complaining about this and that - this is happening all the time. Either they are willing to give multiplayer a shot (and find out what kinda of crap they posted) or they disappear. For the rest of the players, things work just fine.
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I think this problem can be solved and I'm willing to help in any capacity that I am able. My gaming background has nothing to do with my solution to the problem.
Your gaming background has everything to do with it. If you know shOOt about the game, how do you think you can be of any help? Start by creating just one random map and edit it the way you think it solves all the issues (necro, dd, fly etc.) and show it to a veteran for some good laugh.
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Please don't criticize me without offering an alternative.
There is no real problem demanding an alternative, as explained above. Some issues can't be fixed anyway (except for making rules). Start playing in the zone, and you will agree. That would be my proposal for you - if you're really interested and not just tossing around ;-)
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 07, 2004 08:42 AM |
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Thats all very nice and everything, but do you really think you are the first person to say all that? You have 2 main obstacles.
1. The gameis over 5 years old. No-one really cares that much anymore. If people (such as me) want to play the game, most will want certain rules to balance it.
2. Your online experience heroes is like a prejudice against you. People wont listen because you have no experience. You are trying to tell people with 5 years online experience, how to play, what to implement, and that there are really no balance issues in heroes. Titan forwarded an example before that is all well and good, I think necro is beatable on a fixed rush map, I have absolutely no prob someone playing necro against me on say hg2 or 3....but if you play a random game that last to week3 or 4, you start with Isra/Vido and have above average ability, well its nigh on unbeatable.
Unless of course, the great leveller, diplomacy, is included, and then it becomes totally different. As Hamsi said, have your necro and Isra, I'll have my Rampart and Ryland, and castle and Adela. But really, this argument is so old... play what you want and how you want. And dont let others decide for you.
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The_Chad
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 07, 2004 12:03 PM |
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Thats all very nice and everything, but do you really think you are the first person to say all that? You have 2 main obstacles.
1. The gameis over 5 years old. No-one really cares that much anymore. If people (such as me) want to play the game, most will want certain rules to balance it.
I believe in the rules/info section on the toh website it says that you should not be forced into playing under any conditions you feel are unreasonable. Now for eg, hit and run. As annoying and possible game changing as it is, is part of the game and a strategy used the player. So why do we cut it out?? Because we lost our main hero??
http://www.toheroes.com/honor/hcrules.html
2. Your online experience heroes is like a prejudice against you. People wont listen because you have no experience. You are trying to tell people with 5 years online experience, how to play, what to implement, and that there are really no balance issues in heroes. Titan forwarded an example before that is all well and good, I think necro is beatable on a fixed rush map, I have absolutely no prob someone playing necro against me on say hg2 or 3....but if you play a random game that last to week3 or 4, you start with Isra/Vido and have above average ability, well its nigh on unbeatable.
Why not play as random town random hero?? What are chances, of getting Necro to begin with?? 1 in 8 i believe. Then you have to get thant, vido or isra anyway. Whats the chances of them being your starting hero?? Even if they come in halfway through game, what good are they then? Your opponent's hero is half a game infront of you.
What we're all doing is claiming necro to be the town that skill doesn't matter. You require no gaming skills to win with this army. You can beat anyone on any map because your necro. That is a load of *$&#. I'd like to see the lowliest footman ie me or anyone else beat the emperors of toh by being necro alone.
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted April 07, 2004 05:01 PM |
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well, I was kinda typing a reply, but then I noticed it's just a waste of time.
I won't stand in your way while you're leading humanity into a new age of glory and just shut up =)
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted April 07, 2004 05:16 PM |
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is consis Jinxer's alter ego ?
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 07, 2004 05:20 PM |
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well, I was kinda typing a reply, but then I noticed it's just a waste of time.
I won't stand in your way while you're leading humanity into a new age of glory and just shut up =)
LOL...man kann ein Pferd zu ´ner Tränke führen, aber kann es nicht zwingen zu trinken..
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madmartigan
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
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posted April 07, 2004 08:08 PM |
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well, I was kinda typing a reply, but then I noticed it's just a waste of time.
I won't stand in your way while you're leading humanity into a new age of glory and just shut up =)
without further ado:
HAILE FOR PRESIDENT !!!!!
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted April 07, 2004 09:36 PM |
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consis...
dont try to solve every problems especially on problems you dont have full information.. no necro rule on random balance game and toh support these rules (not by directly) i gave you an example : on randommaps templates ''premade'' to balance game; all towns except your starting main are necro towns... veterans never plays necro on randoms and the rest of towns are necro to evite players to have a second same town for example... imagine you have 2 ramparts on random and your opponent have 1 castle 1 inferno... do you know why all neutrals towns are necro? becus noone plays(just some poor newbies) versus necro on random... its just cheap tactic do defeat an opponent and a lost of time.. active128 awww
btw, as i said before i play sometimes with some players full random... if my oppo got necro i have tower i start game 1-0 behind ... i pray ladyluck to get cyra on tavern ... so if you look for fair and balanced games and if you want to minimalize luck factor rules are ok... if you like fantasy you can play versus necro with your solmyr or deemer
have a nice day
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted April 07, 2004 09:42 PM |
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sounds reasonable , thats why i was wondering if that text is not written by someone else than the small fish
HAVE A NICE DAY tm
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted April 07, 2004 10:22 PM |
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HAVE A NICE DAY tm
Azuredragon's minions in action TM
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