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Thread: How to Staying On Topic Without Actually Staying On Topic This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
mvassilev
mvassilev


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posted June 03, 2004 08:50 PM

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Okay I don't want to give too many compliments. I don't wanna make Sir_Stiven throw up. He can't handle people being nice.


How true.

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Sir_Stiven is a silly flamer! Pandora rocks!



I agree.
RSF is sramt (smart). And he's the only mod that uses his Mod Power.
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RedSoxFan3
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posted June 03, 2004 09:03 PM
Edited By: RedSoxFan3 on 3 Jun 2004

Awwww! Mvass. If you were a robot, I would think that was the sweetest thing ever. Instead it's just cool.
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mvassilev
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posted June 03, 2004 10:22 PM

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Awwww! Mvass. If you were a robot, I would think that was the sweetest thing ever. Instead it's just cool.


I'm just flattering you...

Wait, I don't flatter, I flatten!!!!!!!!


j/k

What do robots have to do with staying offtopic?
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Lich
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posted June 03, 2004 10:37 PM

They eat cheese ! Lots of cheese !!!! yes.... Cheesy robots.... MMMmmmmm....
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mvassilev
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posted June 03, 2004 11:34 PM

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They eat cheese ! Lots of cheese !!!! yes.... Cheesy robots.... MMMmmmmm....


Cheesy Liches.
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Lich
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posted June 03, 2004 11:39 PM

I would like to complain about the moderators of this forum ! Mvass just insulted me ! He called us "cheesy Liches" THAT IS RACIAL discrimination !
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Celfious
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posted June 03, 2004 11:52 PM
Edited By: Celfious on 3 Jun 2004

relax, moderators eat cheese too so I doubt he meant any offence or discrimination by it =]

On a lighter note in equivalence of post 3 overhand disreguarded item number 6 it is safe to say we can all go home now ;] Just dont forget the way in cybonetic transfer stations cuz thieves have the ability to be very disorienting.
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RedSoxFan3
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posted June 09, 2004 08:33 AM

Celfius you have a natural ability for number 4. As for this thread, I think it needs to be cleaned up. Get a mod in here something. Geez. Oh yeah this thread needs a thread rating. How about you give it the rating crap? It's full of spam, should probably be sent to Wastelands, no better yet deleted. It's not good enough for wastelands.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted June 09, 2004 04:04 PM

lol RSF, you forgot to take off your one coloured glasses today?

If you wanna make me look in the flamer in this thread.. good luck. Take a look at celfious posts first, basically each one contains an attack.

Now here is the deal, i dont care if you go looking for some kind of support from the spammers here. Except for the fact that it makes you blind to the fact that the spamming from these persons makes the tavern boring.

What i do care about is when half the thread is about posts directed to me in an insulting nature.

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SS has no place to question my intelligence, but at the same time his lack of it applies what seems to be enough reason for him to do so.


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SS Your irritating voice blabbering again


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and your the imbecel ruining this thread with your arrogant toss garbage.


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SS.. this thread isnt about how to destroy a topic. But your first post here would've been a good example


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and your toss garbage is indescribably a mix between ignorant, arrogant, lame, retarded, childish, brain dead egotisticle, among other terms I wont take another moment to list.


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I figured SS had atleast half way better sense than to post this garbage on a message board.


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and more on his behaviors:
But, some people do get off on being annoying, insulting, irritating, obnoxious, ect. They consider it a joke. And by some people, I am not refering to just 12 year olds and younger.


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I'm sure it has to huge meaning to your thick skull, and I'm sure it means something..


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Sir_Stiven is a silly flamer!


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Okay I don't want to give too many compliments. I don't wanna make Sir_Stiven throw up. He can't handle people being nice.



and this is just the insults.

Ive left the ones that could be taken as tosses out.

Only thing i made in this thread that you see as the "big insult" is that i tossed celfious that he didnt figure out my "on topic toss" here. And in RL this would be when you make an "L" in your forhead to the other person involved and he would realise its a jooooooooooooooke.

But i cant understand this, i really cant.

That was one thing that could be interpeted as a real insult (obviously, i still cant see the harm in it)... but you let all the quotes there. They if anything are insults. Heck even yourself made insults at me at the level that i made to celfious.

How good of a moderator example is that?

So far ive always seen shortcomings with you when it comes to the spam part RSF, but other than that i think you have been good. You have been ambitious and showed a will to make tavern interesting again even if my personal opinion is that you are doing it the wrong way.

But even that i havent said as i usually would as i would give you the chance to show what it could result in first.

But if it will end up in biased situations like this... i will regret it.

This thread isnt moderated as it is now, it is a headhunt led by a moderator. You do set the examples now when you are a moderator, and if you leave X nr of insults out and gets to my only because your dear friend dingo tells you...

You better take a cold shower and then review the situation again.

We dont want biased mods here.

And this is frankly one of the most ridicioulus threads ive seen when it comes to moderator actions for a long time.

I know you have your heart put into this RSF, but as a moderator that means nothing if you dont use your brain to teamwork with it.

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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted June 09, 2004 04:13 PM

*clap clap*
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madmartigan
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posted June 09, 2004 04:27 PM

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*clap clap*


Someone really needs to tell Mr. Lich_King that he is a mod not a regular poster. Consequently, him increasing his post count will not provide him any additional stars. Thx in advance.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted June 10, 2004 08:15 PM

And as it happens a spammer is the first one to jump to his defence lol, could it be any more hollow?

mvass, here is the deal. I dont know you, i dont like your spamming.. but as for now there are people who spam more and i dislike that more for now.

So instead of toss you for your lack of reason i will just let it go. For now.

If you keep this up i will start responding to you and i will do it my own tossing manner.

As for now, i would like to see a response from RSF on this as my post were directed to him.

There is a reason you dont get to make calls in situations like this mvass since you are 12 and still thinks like a child. Which off course isnt a bad thing, but you are alittle out of place when you are trying to discuss serious matters that you dont understand yet.

You go and talk about harry potter or something instead, thats sounds more like a reasonable task for you.

Now please RSF, the word is yours.

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Vadskye91
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posted June 11, 2004 02:17 PM

Hey, I'm 13 so I'm just a little older than Mvass.  But "toss minded freak"?  Isn't there some better way you can get your point across?

BTW, almost all of those posts SS mentioned are flames directed at him.  Seems to me he handled it pretty well, ya?  But then that post was followed my Mvass flaming him and agreeing with the statements!  Not many things more insulting than that.  Personally I don't mind SS at all, and it seems to me that the rest of you all are being worse than he is.
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Lich_King
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posted June 11, 2004 05:58 PM

If I were a mod of this section, Mvass would already get a penalty, since it is a direct insult... However, it seems all tolerate that... Ohh well...
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pandora
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posted June 11, 2004 08:42 PM

I agree that he should definately get a -QP. the only purpose of that post was to insult Sir_Stiven. It's pretty darned clear isn't it?

Secondly, I think the spam and crap in this thread really sux, cuz it was a funny post initially by Redsox...But rather than enjoy the spirit of the topic and have fun with it, some members had to whip out a can o' spam and stink it all up
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posted June 12, 2004 04:31 AM
Edited By: RedSoxFan3 on 11 Jun 2004

I am going to clean up all the off-topic comments in a few days, which means all the insults as well. But first I need to discuss this with some others over some donuts, if you get what I mean.
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celfious
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posted June 12, 2004 05:02 AM

hmm, if i was on the topic I wouldn't have posted that one party in the complaints thread.

(and i agree the thread is good but SS and retaliations messed it up)


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Sir_Stiven
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posted June 12, 2004 02:18 PM
Edited By: Sir_Stiven on 12 Jun 2004

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I am going to clean up all the off-topic comments in a few days, which means all the insults as well. But first I need to discuss this with some others over some donuts, if you get what I mean.


Actually i would like them to stay until you have given me some kind of explaination here.

Why did all the insults that i have quoted stay while my only one got removed and a warning was issued?

Why did you remove my toss that you all conciderd to be the bad insult here and yet did you toss me at the same level later on?

Why did you not only warn me for that toss, but also start a headhunt on me later on which among other things lead to a penalty on mvass?

Why do you think it is that members who has barely said a good word about me agree with me on this subject?


I also believe that this has got out of hand now, but i can honestly (as always) say that i had no intention whatsoever to lead this into a flame fest.

I was trying to make the 6 things RSF showed in his first post but in disguise so no one would figure it out right away..appearently that ticked some people off but if you review my posts... i never said anything that bad did i?

The thing i got warned about, as stated in a previous post was when you have fooled someone and make a "L" in your forhead so show that you have tricked the other person. Except for the fact that i spelled it out because i dont think noone would have understood if ive made a L and leave it like that.

But as stated, no posts ive made in this threads intention has been to made anyone feel bad. Just jokes that IMO still is harmless.

And when i keep getting flamed for and its still me that gets the warning..then i believe something is wrong and i would appreciate an explanation and hopefully an apology.

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Celfious
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posted June 12, 2004 02:52 PM

SS.. you can give me a minus QP.. I said realistic, harsh things to you.. I said you GET OFF on insulting people.. And I said than in alot more words than this.. But the second post of this thread by you is definatly something I would have deletd QUICK if I was you..

I wouldnt beable to live with myself knowing there was a post sayin somethin like "SS is totaly not an intelligent person!!"  It would hurt me to know I had a post like that up on the eternal message boards.  So I hope if you dont get a -QP, you still learned not to say such things like that.. Like that for no called reason. . Dude that almost hurt m feelings, and that rarely happens. It hurt my feelings more because its how the thread was started!

Dont give SS a -QP if he says he is reall sorry, and I want to have a disscussion with him. IM style
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posted June 13, 2004 06:54 AM
Edited By: RedSoxFan3 on 13 Jun 2004

The problem is that when joking around, there is definitely a line that must be drawn. That line is drawn by the person who it is directed at. Tossing however you want and saying whatever you want is not justified by you knowing that you are joking or thinking that you are right. Insults are insults whether or not you believe what you say or whether or not you are joking.

As for you saying that I insulted you. I apologize. I had no intentions of this. I didn't think that calling you a silly flamer would be insulting.

One more thing, the intentions of this thread was to laugh at ourselves when we are stupid, because we are human and no one is perfect.

From now on be weary of upsetting people when you toss someone. Remember that just because you are joking does not mean the other person knows that.

I am putting this next part in bold, because I think everyone needs to read this. It is the FAQ/Rules and it has probably been a while since everyone has read it.

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Insults are not allowed at Heroes Community. Insult is any remark that undermines the persona of another member. Whether censored or not, posting insults will attract a warning and then a penalty. A simple way to avoid insulting people is to discuss their actions rather than their personality. For example: rather than saying who they are, "you suck" or "you are a .....", say what you think about what they've done and why you think that, for example "I think your accusation is inaccurate because (facts)".


This is what I mean by being more careful about how you express your opinion. Just because you believe what you are saying and know what you mean, doesn't mean that the other person is going to take it how you intended it.
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How to Deal with Offences
If someone is foolish enough to seriously insult you, don't insult them back, that will only get you penalties. Instead report the insult to one of the moderators, sit back and enjoy watching the offender be dealt with. Posting your comments to the offender is only likely to cause more negativity. Leave the mods to do their peacekeeping job and continue the discussion as usual. Seeing you not react is the worst punishment for an offender, making him/her feel unnoticed and insignificant.

If somebody says something that you do not like, don't put down the person, instead discuss what they've said. So instead of saying "you are stupid" (insult), try "I disagree with your idea because ..." (discussion). Offending personality automatically puts anyone in defensive mode. Constructive discussion of their actions is far more likely to provoke some thought and change on their behalf.


This was breeched in this thread. This is how things get out of hand. Read this next part.
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Philosophy of Anger
If you confront anger with anger, it will grow bigger. It is like putting out fire with a flamethrower. How can you put out a fire? With the opposite element, water. For anger it is calmness. Why does the water stop fire? Because the fire cannot get air which fuels it. Notice how you couldn't keep angry for very long when no one paid attention to your anger, when no one responded to it? Anger is fuelled by attention. Anger can be put out with calmness, which cuts off attention which anger needs to survive.

Angry person wants attention. They will get as angry as they can to get attention. Only when they realize that their anger will not work to get it, they can give it up and try sound reasoning. Give angry people the space to give up their anger. Be calm, listen but do not respond to their anger. By giving them that space you can make a big difference in how they live their life.

Many are mistaken in their ways of peace. Attacking anger is anger. Many peacekeepers are that which destroys peace. Many have justified their anger by making their opposition wrong, bad or evil. But doesn't the opposition think the same thoughts? Each opponent is good in their eyes and bad in the eyes of opposition. That makes each one good and bad at the same time, right and wrong at the same time. Righteousness is not universal, it is only made up to hide the very anger that it is.

We live in the world of people who think wanting peace is a good enough excuse to be unpeaceful to their enemy. A world of people who are convinced that their anger will somehow cause peace. The truth is that only peace may cause peace. If you want peace in your life, lead by an example. Be the source of peace, giving others the space to do what you do. If you want to eliminate anger, you must start by eliminating it within yourself, only then can you show others the way. Remember, negativity to another is anger, whatever words you call it, however you justify it.

Angry people want to prove something. They want you to agree. If you disagree, they will become more angry, trying harder to get your attention and agreement. Your journey to peace can start here at Heroes Community. Next time you see anger, relinquish it within yourself.


Okay so now that everyone knows these three things, they only need to be put into practice. If you ever find yourself getting angry and want to tear someone a new *******, PLEASE READ THE FAQ/RULES. More than just the Code of Conduct. It helps remind us how to deal with conflicts properly and trust me on this it works.

Now I don't want to go pointing fingers at the good little girl and make you feel bad or irritated, but I will give an example. You probably know who I am referring to. Pandora. She always has a positive attitude. She uses the Philosophy of Anger like and Deals with Offenses as recommended by the FAQ/Rules. I hope this helps everyone deal with their problems and we can move on.

Now I am going to create a clone of this thread with a few updates. Cleaning this thread wouldn't be good enough. I think we should start fresh and post in tavern the right way without the flaming.

Oh I need to correct something I posted earlier. Making fun of flamers only makes yourself look like a flamer as well. It backfires, no pun intended.
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