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vesuvius
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posted July 27, 2001 01:39 AM |
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do the 3do people actually read these?
On the heroes3 altar of wishes message board, Ive imported this conversation that may be interesting to readers here, origninally posted by LadyLily:
do the 3do people actually read these?
All these posts have got some really good ideas and all, but will the 3do people actually read these or these posts will just be a wishful list and rumors? I cant think that the 3do people will actually sit down and read all these posts because it would be very time consuming. How are these ideas/suggestions going to be heared by the 3do team? I noticed some of the posts got ratings on them ie. important, interesting etc. but who is rating these? the 3do team? the administrators? a poll perhaps or just by the mass amounts of replies and views? I dont want to see good ideas going unheard.
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LadyLily
Known Hero
The Iron Maiden
Posts: 146 posted July 25, 2001 01:20 PM
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IT sucks, doesn't it? I asked the same question I little while ago, but I won't get mad at you for thinking the same way.
I doubt that 3DO actually reads these. There are probably a lot of HoMM boards out there on the net. And even though this board may have the most members or the "best" ideas, they probably still won't listen to our ideas. Even if they do include some of the things we thought, the likeliness of them taking it from this board is low.
You could always e-mail them with our ideas, which a few have done already. But so late in the production, do we relayl want to screw up the game?
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LordPaul
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Crazy Bat Guy.
Posts: 352
Quality: 1 posted July 25, 2001 01:25 PM
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Trust me...
3do replies to every e-mail you send them, no matter how stupid. And a few people at 3do have admitted to being to this board once or twice. Did they look at the threads? Who knows?
As you can see from Incubus's '...White Tiger...' thread they actually do use some of our ideas, even this late in the game. Though, I think, they modify them to their standerds.
You can e-mail them here: heroes3websters@3do.com
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OzzyOsbourne
Famous Hero
Lord Of Slaughter
Posts: 510 posted July 25, 2001 01:31 PM
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hey LordPaul.. how do you email 3DO????
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Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
Posts: 352
Quality: 1 posted July 25, 2001 01:39 PM
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Uh......
Didn't I post it in my last post? Well, here is their e-mail address again:
heroes3websters@3do.com
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OzzyOsbourne
Famous Hero
Lord Of Slaughter
Posts: 510 posted July 25, 2001 01:42 PM
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thanks LordPaul.. sorry, i didnt see it before..
I'm a little tired right now.. and when i posted my last post i found a sweet *** riff over my guitar....
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Maximane
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Sage of Wisdom
Posts: 28 posted July 25, 2001 03:43 PM
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"Signs point you the direction. Making brighter signs still points you the direction
It is a present and apparent fact that people and/or representatives somewhere in the chain from 3do do in occasion watch this page.
The whole purpose for these forums is not for just the unanswered cries for solutions. Some people's suggestions on this forum may be carried on to the next level and examined to see if it could be used.
If you however want your cries answered and perhaps used, then make your statements and suggestions orderly and detailed. That will be your best bet to a reply.
-Maximane
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Sha_Men
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Jack-Of-No-Trades
Posts: 220
Quality: 1 posted July 25, 2001 03:59 PM
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Maximane is right...
I think some 3do staff really visit and look some of topics seen here.
Jennifer Bullard (also known as Maranthea) has said that he and the team has visited some fansites...at least this was the case with HoMM 3.
However it's possibly much efficient to send an email to 3do that just post them here. I also believe that 3do gets a load of these emails everyday so I'm not sure how many "real" ideas reach the top of designers and not the virtual shredding machine.
What I'm concerned around here is the way that some of the threads about heroes are put down by some threads that have nothing to really do with "wishes".
People should really put more effort to tell their opinion and that's more than "I hate that".
But I won't say anything more because it's no use. We are here to post wishes for HoMM IV and for the expansions so let them freely flow into the board.
Maybe someone really listens...
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Vesuvius
MODERATOR
Hero of Order
Posts: 144 posted July 25, 2001 04:12 PM
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wake up people
sure 3do comes to the boards, the fan sites, and tournaments; this is very true -- however its more the 'big brother is watching you' effect, as to see what the community is thinking.
However, 3do is very egocentric, and is possibly the worst PC game distributor for fan support. Their official standpoint of fan support is substantially nil, a policy they follow in force. This in turn, means that what you say here, whether positive or negative, criticsm or suggestion, WILL fall on deaf ears.
This isnt speculation, but a fact.
If the might and magic franchise was owned by EA, infogrammes, sierra, interplay and many other PC distributors, we would have a far different community and fan support base, with community beta testers and true openess to suggestions.
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Thunder
Adventuring Hero
Posts: 105 posted July 25, 2001 04:32 PM
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Why is everyone always speaking of 3DO?
NWC (New World Computing) have maked Heroes not 3DO (3DO is just publisher)
Of course 3D0 surely has a great impact to heroes series.
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Sha_Men
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Posts: 220
Quality: 1 posted July 25, 2001 05:06 PM
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I personally mean...
NWC when I'm speaking about 3do...
I'm not sure does everybody else...
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Rage
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Posts: 100 posted July 25, 2001 06:17 PM
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Does this mean bad news for TOH Ves? ie no solutions to various cheating or links to toh? Cause I remember awhile back that you said (or am i crazy) NWC was going to work with TOH on some things...
What tha dilly o?
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LordPaul
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Crazy Bat Guy.
Posts: 352
Quality: 1 posted July 25, 2001 06:47 PM
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3do doesn't seem to have shame. (see the Army men series). But NWC seems to really care. I think we all mean NWC when we say 3do.
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thunderknight
Adventuring Hero
Posts: 183
Quality: 2 posted July 26, 2001 01:35 PM
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3Wo
NWC ? 3do ? so what ?
I don't care about company name.
I don't come here to got involved in company issues coz I don't got paid for that.
So, just call it 3Wo.
Back to topic.
I think 3Wo did listen to the communinity "to some extent".
Hey, men, they did abandon the Forge town idea in h3 expansion due to strong opposition from fans.
Never compare 3Wo with EA, Infogame, Sierra.........
don't know..... "shrug"
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Sha_Men
Known Hero
Jack-Of-No-Trades
Posts: 220
Quality: 1 posted July 26, 2001 01:45 PM
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Strong opposition?...
Pretty mildly said...
Did you know that designers got angry mail and even threats from some of the fans because of Forge?
At least that's the impression they gave...
We don't need another forge for sure...
I have kinda thought that maybe it was after that when the game company stopped listening the fans too much. I mean they must been angry themselves as they got that kind of mail...
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Vesuvius
MODERATOR
Hero of Order
Posts: 144 posted July 26, 2001 07:36 PM
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NWC/3DO
New World Computing was bought by 3DO before the release of homm3. Since then, many changes have worked through the company and many of the original people in NWC no longer work for NWC. Especially for homm4, frankly there are few employees involved who were there for homm2&1. The creator Jan Van C. sold the rights of the might and magic franchise to 3D0. He was directly behind homm1 &2, but only a guiding entity in homm3. IN homm4 I doubt that is even the case.
Point to this history is to state that NWC of homm2 isnt the NWC we have today, but more just a subdivision of fresh employees sent to tackle the next wave of homm, namely homm4.
To Rage: My statements earlier about lack of fan support reflects the position TOH has with 3D0, which is more 'big brother is watching you' but no real direct support. My recommendations to do a few simple things to help reduce map editing type cheating, trainers, and viewing saves, fall on deaf ears; when I email these recommendations, to say, Maranthea, she says she will 'forward' to the right department, however, no productive reply comes beyond this.
I will be investing about $5000 for the new TOH automation for homm4, and 3do will not be supporting a penny of that, but at this point I dont really care. To me what matters is that I'm addicted to homm, and homm4 is going to be a great game, and therefore valid enough reason to spend what I am to support an even bigger tourney.
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Kuma
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posted July 27, 2001 11:54 AM |
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done reading it. It's important enuf to put back on top of the list.
KnT
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ironmlh
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posted July 28, 2001 10:04 AM |
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well this subject is about 3do reading our posts, but i would just like to give a big thanks out to VES for running TOH and to the volunteer support staff of TOH. VES, great job so far and i cant wait for H4 and the new TOH, i think(no, i know) i will have to be ahem( sick) the day H4 comes out, i may never see the light of day again for alll i know.
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maud0dib
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posted July 29, 2001 06:19 AM |
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I know from experience that you, as well as many others committed to TOH would be the ideal people to ask for input on Heroes IV. It's hard to imagine why 3DO is so unwilling to listen
Keep fighting the good fight Ves.......I always enjoy visiting your site and appreciate that it's here for my enjoyment.
Mike
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