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Thread: How to dismantle an Atombomb with your teeth! This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
Wolfman
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posted January 12, 2005 10:34 PM

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Wolfman had asked how the Pennsylvania flight left almost no debris.


I haven't even posted in this thread before.
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Consis
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posted January 13, 2005 12:54 AM

Bah....

Ok it's official, I'm getting old. This can't be good for my social status
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demented_int...
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posted January 16, 2005 07:05 PM

um...

this thread is scary. should i stock up on lots of canned stuff and make my way up a cave in the mountain?

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Leo_Lion
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posted January 16, 2005 07:43 PM
Edited By: Leo_Lion on 16 Jan 2005

Run for the hills!

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this thread is scary. should i stock up on lots of canned stuff and make my way up a cave in the mountain?
You should only do this if you live in the U.S. and stay up there as long as a Conservative is President. But, if you're really crazy, you could join Politics and "try to make a difference"!
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posted January 16, 2005 09:24 PM

nope, don't want to enter politics. way too life threatening. btw, i'm unsure of this classifications of politicians (conservative, ultra-right), i'm still in freshmen college (haven't taken it up yet.)

anyone who knows about this?
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sirzapdos
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posted January 16, 2005 09:31 PM

On the left, the extreme is communism, like Cuba, whereas moderate lefties would be called Socialists, and even more towards centre leftists would be Liberal. Canada is currently a good example of a Liberal country.

On the right, the extreme is Fascism, like Hitler and the Nazis. Getting closer towards to centre we have what's simply called Conservatism. The USA is on the right, as Republicans are conservative, thus Democrats being liberal.

I know I'm missing a couple of words, like what the exact centre is called, and what the right wing equivalent of Socialism is called (hopefully someone can help), but for starters, I hope this was helpful.
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posted January 16, 2005 09:37 PM

oh that made a lot of things clear, sirzapdos. i mean, when i found myself reading a newspaper (yeah, crazy ain't it), i sometimes find these words goobledigook. now, at least i'll understand a little about this ultra-left, conservatist stuff.

anyone who has more info, i wish you'd post so we (i mostly) could learn about this stuff. thanks.
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Svarog
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posted January 17, 2005 04:29 AM

Actually thats a quite one-dimensional outlook of political ideology. Economic liberalism can be an extreme political right, as a matter of fact.

Here're some links of threads u can use to make things clear up a bit.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=13307
See my post there, "HC communist archives". some good links.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=10&TID=11466&pagenumber=1
There's the two-dimensional compass, which gives a clearer image of the left/right ideologies. u can also take the test and see where u fit.
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posted January 17, 2005 04:50 AM

thanks svarog for the links. though i need time to churn all this information as the thread you linked is so deep into discussion. very serious and good learning stuff.
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RedSoxFan3
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posted January 17, 2005 09:56 AM

They have an explanation as a link on the website that explains the theory the Israeli Conspiracy theory that is supposed to encompass the entire world.

Here's the link...

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/boeing.htm

Warning it's a bit long. I still haven't read all of it.

And that either there is either cooperation between the US government or there are major moles throughout all of the government agencies.

It also mentions how a former CIA member wrote a book about this.

To be perfectly honest there are a lot of very suspicious things that have been going on, however I would have believed nothing if it weren't for the mentioning of 5 Israeli people were celebrating when the World Trade Center was hit. That did it for me.

I honestly have a terrible feeling after hearing that.

Another thing that bothered me. If the terrorists were going to do something this organized and professional, then why would they leave a video tape on how to fly passports in a parked car?

Why leave a trail? Wouldn't it make more sense for someone else to pin the attack on the Moslems? They also seem to have evidence that there were Israeli spies in the United States that were supposed to be carefully watching terrorist cells.

People also ask themselves, how can the world not find out about this?

How can the USSR not be aware of the cruelness of Stalin for decades?

I'm not saying I'm buying the Pentagon story by any means, but I never really thought the terrorist thing made sense. This conspiracy theory makes about as much sense to me.

Basically the idea of keeping secrets, secrets, according to them, is not in covering up mistakes, but discrediting the stories that expose them, which is pretty easy if you think about it.

Would any of you believe in a worldwide conspiracy theory? Nope.

That in itself would make it easy.

But the way they put it, if people who own big business will do anything to stay on top.

In the 1920s the mafia infiltrated the police department. The FBI couldn't get Al Capone for a single crime until they finally arrested him for tax fraud.

Now personally I think that the Israelis have much more to gain then the Moslems in the 9/11 attack.

However the problem is that many Conspiracy Theorists start with their answer and look for the pieces to put together the answer they want, however they claim that Average Joe, laughs at it. I refuse to. I also refuse to fully believe it, despite the worst gut feeling I've ever had.

I will say I have an open mind to the concept. I don't know what the truth is, but even before I heard any of these conspiracy theories, I had the feeling that something else was behind the 9/11 attacks. Either way you look at it, one of them is like a conspiracy in my book.

One involves some brilliant yet, careless mistakes on the part of the Moslems. The other involves a brilliant cover-up along with a brilliant plan.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's a more likely motive that Israel would do this to get the support of the world.

Really an attack like this, so arbitrary is probably worse off. Good way to get the entire world against you. How is that going to help you?

If you consider the level of organization required to do either of these things, you can't discount either story.

Analogy.

You have two gangs. Both of them are secret. One gang decides to vandalize property by writing their name on a brick wall. Okay likely enough?

Another smarter gang vandalizes property and writes the name of their rival gang on a brick wall framing them.

Most people if they saw this would assume the gang whose name is attached did it, because it's a gang, they do that stuff anyway. All you do is leave a can of spray paint with the same color at the rival gangs house and the police can track will track them to it among numerous other crimes.

So basically I think it's really easy to pin something on known terrorists or even do it to people who are associated to people who are known terrorists.

Look at what happened in the MacCarthy Scare. People who weren't communists were being accused. All you need is to point the finger in the general direction of a group of criminals and you'll find a what appears to be a trail. With nothing else being immediately obvious, you fill in the blank. The organization of something like this isn't much greater than a large group of terrorist cells. I guess I don't see what's so unlikely about it.

To me this is logical. I honestly don't know what the truth is in this world. I can't believe anything anymore. It's terrible to think about it like that, but I honestly feel like I can't believe anything anymore. I don't know what's really going on.
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posted January 17, 2005 04:54 PM

wow redsoxfan3, very well said.

all i can say about my feelings right now is paranoia. hehe.
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Leo_Lion
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posted January 25, 2005 01:36 AM
Edited By: Leo_Lion on 31 Jan 2005

This is in reference to a Post that I made at the end of page #2.

In that Post, I discussed the possibility of the CIA, NSA, & US Military developing crazy technologies of all kinds.

WELL...here is proof of that highly secretive research!

Step1: Attach the balloons to the bumper of your car.

Step2: Drive like hell down the Highway.

Step3: Watch people freak out as you go by!



Makes you wonder what else those "Mad Scientists" are concocting...doesn't it?!
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Shiva
Shiva


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Famous Hero
posted January 25, 2005 02:32 AM

Red Sox Fan, I think your gut is misleading you. I seem
to remember Bin Ladin claiming responsibility for 911
in one of his tapes. Why would he do that if he could
pin it on the Israelis which would serve him much better?
That would have totally divided the US and Israel, his
two main enemies. And Bin Ladin knows how to play the game
of dividing his opposition. The bombing in Spain was
incredibly effective.




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RedSoxFan3
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posted January 28, 2005 08:03 PM

Haven't seen Bin Laden for a while have we?

You don't think it would be hard to forge a few videos and tapes?
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sirzapdos
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Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
posted January 29, 2005 01:08 AM

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You don't think it would be hard to forge a few videos and tapes?

Wow. This caught me off guard. I never once fathomed the possibilty that some (or all) of his tapes were fabricated. Reminds me of the Two Minute Hate from 1984.
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Shiva
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Famous Hero
posted January 30, 2005 12:33 PM

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Haven't seen Bin Laden for a while have we?

You don't think it would be hard to forge a few videos and tapes?


True, with the way special effects are these days, its
possible everything on the news is just fantasy. How
'bout that! No tsunami, no mudslides in California, no
NFL playoffs, just special effects .

I don't doubt that governments plot and do funny things,
but this conspiracy is a little too far fetched. Instead
of the image of those supposed Israeli's dancing, how
about remembering the documented image of Palestinians
cheering, or my cousin in Toronto telling me of Arab
neighbours of his waving flags and laughing.
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russ
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blah, blah, blah
posted November 19, 2007 05:29 PM

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9:40 Colonel Popcorn calls Sergeant Shriver

"Shriver, shoot a missile at the Pentagon. NOW!
"Sir yes Sir"

9:42 Sergeant Shriver shoots missile at Pentagon

9:45 Missile hits Pentagon.
ROFL!!! That was my favorite part.

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