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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Balancing you want??
Thread: Balancing you want??
Veteranewbie
Veteranewbie


Adventuring Hero
posted January 05, 2006 08:57 AM
Edited by Veteranewbie on 5 Jan 2006

Balancing that you want??

Pit Lord
500g - 700g is too expensive, consider that the mighty gorgon kick ass ability upgrade only cost from 525g - 600g
Perhaps the pit lord price should drop to 600g

Imps, Familiars
Worst lvl 1 unit but cost 50g which is the same as the better troglodytes and gnolls, and its stats are similar to gremlins anyway which costs only 30 gold, same goes for familiars which costs 60g when the equivalent hobgoblins costs 50g.
Maybe the price should change to 30g and 50g

Devils
Not much, except when compare to AA it is weak. But I just hope they can change the damage to a constant 40 instead of 30-40, like the AA's steady 50 damage

Upgraded Cloud Temple
Titans building are way too expensive to upgrade, especially on lvl7 level most units are fast enough i.e dragons to block their range attack plus their speed aren't fast anyway. Time to drop that 25000g requirement to 20000g

Scorpicore
A bad flying lvl 6 units. When compare to wyvern monarch stats they are pretty equivalent... in my opinion they should be priced relatively to efreet sultan which costs 1100....
The price should drop from 1100 to 1000

Cyclops King
With all that little upgrade stats, the costs is pretty expensive... sure the ballistic skill upgrade is nice to have, but then with it doesn't worth it (especially when 1 do as much damage to the wall as 100, considering only 1 stack).
The upgraded costs should drop from 1100 to 1000g or 950g

Wyverns Monarch
Similar to Scorpicore and equally sucks.
Price should go down from 1100 to 1000


That's so far I can think of.....





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stachnie
stachnie


Known Hero
posted January 05, 2006 11:52 AM

Quote:

Upgraded Cloud Temple
Titans building are way too expensive to upgrade, especially on lvl7 level most units are fast enough i.e dragons to block their range attack plus their speed aren't fast anyway. Time to drop that 25000g requirement to 20000g


I would prefer to make it cost less crystals, not money. The reason is that AFAIK for each town the price for unupgraded + upgraded lvl7 dwelling is 30000g (Giants/Titans: 5000+25000, Angels/Archangels: 10000+20000 etc.).

BTW, IMO Titans are worth their price - they are the best shooters in the game.


Best regards,

Slawomir Stachniewicz.

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Veteranewbie
Veteranewbie


Adventuring Hero
posted January 05, 2006 12:34 PM

Magic elemental
No retal + magic immunity + all area damage, ok speed and cost only 800gold?? Compare to a champion which costs like 1200g it is way too cheap
Time to increase their cost to 900 or 1000g  
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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted January 05, 2006 03:26 PM

Quote:
 The reason is that AFAIK for each town the price for unupgraded + upgraded lvl7 dwelling is 30000g (Giants/Titans: 5000+25000, Angels/Archangels: 10000+20000 etc.)...


Not true.
Angels / Archangels 20.000 + 20.0000
Behemots / Ancients 10.000 + 15.000
Hydras / Chaos 10.000 + 15.000
Devils / Archdevils 15.000 + 20.000
Bonedrags / Ghostdrags 10.000 + 15.000

So besides Tower, only Rampart level7 dwells cost 30.000 in summary.

The gem problem should be solved by changing the reward of the nagabanks. They should give gems instead of sulfur.
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stachnie
stachnie


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posted January 09, 2006 01:00 PM

Quote:
So besides Tower, only Rampart level7 dwells cost 30.000 in summary.


Oops, my mistake.


S.

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Satanspawn
Satanspawn

Tavern Dweller
posted January 17, 2006 08:05 PM

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The gem problem should be solved by changing the reward of the nagabanks. They should give gems instead of sulfur.



A very valid point, one that would make perfect sense. Whether it is practical or not, i think there should be a chance that a few join you after the battle, same with treasuries (which would be improved by this same concept -i.e.,  make the rewards crystal (for Rampart), etc.)where dwarves may join your cause. As an added thought, it would be cool if every town had such a structure with units that fit their profiles individually. But then again that would probably throw things off a little and just make a hassle out of things.
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TNT_Addict
TNT_Addict


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Beautiful Liar
posted January 17, 2006 09:08 PM

You can get huge amounts of gems from mystical gardens (which give you +5 gems or 500 gold).

I played some random maps which generated 15 gardens in my area and i had 120 gems week 3 .

Although I didn't need them at all and hoped for gold (I was dungeon).

You always get gems when you need gold and gold when you need gems...  

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Russ
Russ


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Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
posted January 17, 2006 09:13 PM

There is just one problem with this... snow (Tower's native terrain) DOES NOT have gardens.

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TNT_Addict
TNT_Addict


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Beautiful Liar
posted January 17, 2006 09:20 PM

Oh I get it... Sorry must be real hard for you to brake to second area sorry again...

I guess not all of us were blessed with the ability to play on normal level .


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angelito
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posted January 17, 2006 09:47 PM
Edited by angelito on 17 Jan 2006

Quote:
Oh I get it... Sorry must be real hard for you to brake to second area sorry again...

I guess not all of us were blessed with the ability to play on normal level .




Perhaps u should stop talking that low level and play maps where u wonīt break into next area day 2 like in most of the original 3DO randoms.
Letīs see how many leprechauns u will find on Jebus or Extreme 2 when playing Tower....
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TNT_Addict
TNT_Addict


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Supreme Hero
Beautiful Liar
posted January 17, 2006 10:00 PM

Ouch man sorry I guess he a good buddy of yours.

Anyway its still good when you play 2 vs 2 and your teammate got lots of gardens

and can send you all the gems you need. You play teams doncha?

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bjorn190
bjorn190


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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
posted January 18, 2006 12:00 AM
Edited by bjorn190 on 18 Jan 2006

Oooh I just love it when ppl say "Jebus" as a template

Yea tower is usually too expensive. Especially gemwise but also goldwise.

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Veteranewbie
Veteranewbie


Adventuring Hero
posted January 18, 2006 05:22 AM

What is this Jebus map that everybody talk about? I have no idea

I only play 3DO original maps, and some player-made adventure map. Tower is expensive to build, but then maybe it's just the titan hall upgrade

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angelito
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proud father of a princess
posted January 18, 2006 10:10 AM

"Jebus" is no map, but a template for the random map generator. Look up this thread. You will find many usefull info about making templates and what it is all about.


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