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Pengu
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posted April 14, 2006 06:12 PM |
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Kounherve, you really are way off.
I give reloads and restarts for lots of reasons.
If anything with your starting town is blocked or your mines are blocked by hard guards I offer restart.
Sometimes if u makes mistakes(not suicide) I offer reload. But you said wyverns were blocking your 2nd town.
For me there is no such thing as your second town.
Everyone starts with one town always. On random it happens lots of times that another town might be blocked. If i should give restart every time a town is blocked I might never finish a game. And no, I was in no position to see how your area looked like.
Then when I told you I don't give restart when other towns are blocked, u "forgot" to build that turn
and you used that as an excuse to get restart.I gave u a reload. Then after we have played 2 more weeks you all of a sudden again says you don't want to continue cause u think I should have given u a restart before.
Then you keep going on how others maybe would have given u a restart.
And after that you just leave and tell me that the game doesn't count.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted April 14, 2006 11:58 PM |
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Sounds like someone didnt have a good game that day 
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khounherve
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 15, 2006 01:00 AM |
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bah you dont want to understand.
You have always big blockers on balance between opponents. they were misplaced on my second town thats all. i told you, you forced me to go on. you offer me a reload in your great benefaction. WONDERFUL What the hell can i do with a reload. You could have say ok i report a win cause you cannot win this game. That was same. and if i build or not was also the same. That game was lost cause completely unbalanced by an error.
I forgot to build cause it was nonsense to continue. That game was snowed and lost from the beginning. It is not an excuse. I just didnt want to play it cause the map was wrong thats all. No need to find excuse.
All would understand that except you. Yes i continued to play it because you insisted to do so and cause maybe by miracle i could find other towns like you said. But what is funny to play a game when you know from the very first day you have lost it.
That game was unbalanced not cause i was unlucky but cause it was an ERROR ON THE MAP.
Yes I left you cause i saw you are narrow minded and didnt want loose time discuss more with a wall.
From the beginning i didnt want play it cause wrong and you from the beginning you didnt want to make a new map. What the hell is the problem to regenerate a map day one lol. Lets end this discussion we will anyway not agree. But i never report such a game. thats all.
If you want make win like this choose other players and GL
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted April 15, 2006 01:05 AM |
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Well simple solution is to explain the error in the map & oponent makes a choice if he wants to take the win or start a whole new game & scratch that game becvause I had many games where it went no where because of errors on randoms that block your way.
It usually just should be a simple restart on the whole game if that is the case.
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khounherve
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 15, 2006 02:23 PM |
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Aaaah finally a wise man. I totally agree with you aculias. For others that read this thread, I let all make themselves their own judgment on that example. If your second native town on balance was blocked by horde wiverns misplaced that were intended to block the road going to opponent area. Would you play that game??
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted April 15, 2006 02:28 PM |
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To be fair if you feel your map is unfair then why not restart but for most they should see for thierselves & see what they want as well.If Wyverns supposed to be blocking the main road & not the road to town then you could be majorly handycapped & what I read I have to totally disagree with the Eternal Winner here 
We need more compromise & communication in the game to be fair.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted April 15, 2006 02:30 PM |
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So wheres your brother anyways Khoun
I am usually asking him where you are
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Zsa
Famous Hero
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posted April 16, 2006 02:20 AM |
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I usually offer restars when my opponent asks for one. And I know for a fact that pengu does offer restarts.
People want restarts from all different kinds of reasons. If your town ,wood and ore mines aren't blcoked there's usually no reason for restart - unless your only path out of your area is blocked by something ludicrous that you can't take on until week 3 or so.
You can't ask for a restart for everything tho. If you pick up a scholar and get a bad skill, there's no way in hell i'll offer you a restart. For a lot of other things however I do offer restarts.
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 16, 2006 10:37 AM |
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Quote:
Aaaah finally a wise man. I totally agree with you aculias. For others that read this thread, I let all make themselves their own judgment on that example. If your second native town on balance was blocked by horde wiverns misplaced that were intended to block the road going to opponent area. Would you play that game??
I got a better solution...dont play friggen jebus  
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Zsa
Famous Hero
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posted April 16, 2006 05:59 PM |
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Rychen mate, I think you're seeing jebus stars around you. The game was on balance
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 16, 2006 11:48 PM |
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See? see what jebus does to you?, its like a disease...makes you see things that arent even there! 
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Zsa
Famous Hero
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posted April 17, 2006 04:40 AM |
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Edited by Zsa on 16 Apr 2006
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Well I bit the bullet and I played a jebus today - no castle. And it's damn retarded. I reinforce what I've said before - it's RETARDED.
I was doing 5000 a day by the end of week 1, and I could buyout completely from a built up fortress town with all creatures. What is the damn fun in playing jebus?
Your e-penis does not grow if you hire 8 heroes on day 1.
Nor are you cool for getting archangels on day 1 week 2 on that map. 
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Plexus22
Known Hero
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posted April 17, 2006 07:37 AM |
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Aaaah finally a wise man. I totally agree with you aculias. For others that read this thread, I let all make themselves their own judgment on that example. If your second native town on balance was blocked by horde wiverns misplaced that were intended to block the road going to opponent area. Would you play that game??
In this scenario I definitely think it's more than fair to request a restart, given that the map was Balance. Balance is not like some random map where you MIGHT just happen to run into another town that might be the same faction. Everybody who play Balance knows that theres another town nearby that is of the same faction and most people plan that into their strategy from day 1....and no, the town is not ment to be blocked by horde Wyverns or whatever it was. On balance not having that second town early is a considerable disadvantage because even the small amount of gold and the extra army it will provide in early game is very beneficial. If your opponent is smart they will have their second town as early as possible and chances are they will win the game without too much trouble if they have their second town but you dont have yours.
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khounherve
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 17, 2006 10:03 PM |
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I am happy to see people like plexus22 understand the spirit of that game.
Concerning Zsa, and Rych, yes it was balance not jebus. but Zsa i didnt asked restart for example like you mention here. but for horde wiverns blocking second town on balance
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You can't ask for a restart for everything tho. If you pick up a scholar and get a bad skill, there's no way in hell i'll offer you a restart. For a lot of other things however I do offer restarts.
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GabyStan
Known Hero
Seeking Wisdom
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posted April 18, 2006 06:15 PM |
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Allow me a few remarks, guys...
First of all, I think Herve should have had a restart there, that's for sure. But I think an error on map can also mean bad luck for the player affected by it.
Secondly, Jebus can be retarded sometimes, especially when having BAD LUCK on it (bugs can usually be either ignored or "repaired").
Example 1: tiny map (smallest I ever got), 1 pandora only (5k exp), 2 Monk dwells, 1 A, 2 P-K skills around, 2 crypts and a treasury. No artie, no Tope, no nothing to build up a decent hero. I play a noob, so he's accepting my resignation day 7 and accepts my ToH report. What should I say to him? Easy points are welcomed any time, right?
Example 2: I play a vet (young fellow), I attack lots Fiends guarding lvl 3 shrine AND Axe (+2A) with my 3 Angels (only). I estimated they should not be more than 22-25. I found out were 34, so I lost an Angel. Later someone told me the Axe was prolly a quest artifact, which explains their high number. Ok, I play on, no reload asked (nor offered), my mistake. Week 2 I lose another Angel (AA this time) to 18-19 Monarchs (scout fight) guarding Tome of Fire, just before chaining everything to Gerwulf waiting to break (week 2, day 5). But bad luck, instead of a probable win thanks to early break I have to resign (no chance with 1 AA only). Again, no ask for reload, nor offered. Instead, he laughs and tells me: "This was my fastest win for more than 2 years" and pockets the points.
Possible cause(s) for all this? Well, either BAD LUCK, or being STUPID, or playing not that HONOURABLE opponents. Or maybe a combination of all 3.
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Russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
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posted April 18, 2006 06:54 PM |
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Ok, since this is a good thread to complain, I'll just say one thing that really pisses me off about some players. Almost always one side of the map is harder than the other. The game is always unbalanced to a certain extent, but you can still win games even on unbalanced maps. If they lose, they say "I lost because the map was unfair and you are dishonorable and you didn't offer a restart when my 2-nd town was blocked by a pack of imps". If they win, they start bragging about how good they are and how bad you suck at this game, even though they had just about EVERYTHING going for them in that game and you had exactly the opposite even though you've tried your best. I am very sick and tired of this s**t.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 18, 2006 07:52 PM |
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Russ.....i couldnīt agree more.
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Zsa
Famous Hero
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posted April 18, 2006 08:25 PM |
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Tis true russ. Whenever I lose a game I never go, well you WON CAUSE YOU were so much luckier. Or, I "was stuck behind several unicorns for the first week". Or, "you're soo lucky you got hack".
I have no problems at all with opponents telling me what they had on the map or the difficulties they had when dealing with the map. That for me is actually good conversation material.
What I hate and therefore I never try to do myself is try to point out how lucky my opponent was or how unlucky I was and how much harder my map was compared to my opponent, and keep whining and whining, hinting at the fact that my opponent won because of a sensational stroke of luck.
Last game I lost for example, my opponent got 3 full wyven hives + another one, and he ends up with 40 something wyverns week 4.
I only found 2 myself, both of them containing 4 wyverns each.
Final battle came, opponent sweeps the floor with me, and the units on mulich morale like he has 33-50% chance of getting morale.
The worst thing to do in those situations is whine like a little snow that things didn't go your way, and all that mentioned before.
Or go on a whiny streak and add no cons and hives to my rules (which i'm very sure some people actually did)
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maretti
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted April 18, 2006 08:28 PM |
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Gabystan, whats your point with the 2nd example?
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Russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
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posted April 18, 2006 08:59 PM |
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go on a whiny streak and add no cons and hives to my rules (which i'm very sure some people actually did)
lol, I absolutely love that line! Gotta love people who make new rules as soon as they lose a game, lol. "Damn, he killed me with implo... what do I do... what do I do???  New Rule!!! No level 5 spells!"
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