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It was right to silence tigris! Btw, wasn't you a little to merciful, when you first gived him a couple -QC (or what you cal warnings here) I think you should had silenced him directly, because spammers like him like to squabbling and spamm. (can they do anything else)

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It was right to silence tigris! If someone is insulting the admin, she/he is not grateful for the job the admin has done whit the site, and the job he does whit it every day! All persons who insults an admin should always bee silenced whitout any warnings. If she/he insults an moderator, she/he should get a warning,and then be silenced by the admin. (The admin should always decide the punishment of a member, whit the exeption of warnings)
Btw, wasn't you a little to merciful, when you first gived him a couple -QC (or what you cal warnings here) I think you should had silenced him directly, because spammers like him like to squabbling and spamm. (can they do anything else)

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I think you should had silenced him directly, because spammers like him like to squabbling and spamm. (can they do anything else)

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Dear Nimbus (aka fortress_fan, as I can see )...

Please calm down. What you are up to with this post has just the right ingredients to jumpstart yet another flamewar opposing new users (of HC and/or Heroes and/or online gaming) to proven veterans to NO END.

Of course, the way the FoG / Tig match ended up, it's not surprising that FoG's peers feel they have the Boss on their side and begin to post such bravado.

Correcting your statements in detail would only give me the same results, with the current rules still applying to this forum. So I will have to ignore your provocations. I feel I can help this cause in a much more constructive way.

I'm preparing a major post for the Turban Tibunal with suggestions about how to avoid future similar cases (will direct link to it as soon as it's ready / posted).

However, I will forward this information to you, O mighty Eagle-Eye Specialist : if you don't have a clue who a particular is and what he represents for this community, all you have to do is go to that user's HC profile and from there you will have links to all his contributions.

In the present matter, feel free to check this profile to see for yourself WHO Tigris is for us all.

Then, maybe you'll reconsider and/or go and read the definition for "spam" in the English Dictionnary.

Have a nice day, now.

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..No one has the right to insult the admin!

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And I dont give a wooden nickle about Tigris personality...

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...or how he insulted Valera, it depends on how the admin feels, not the other way around.

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And I have ofcourse no intrests to start a "flamewar" whit the others....

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Angelito: I am don't trying to get a good reputation among the moderators and Vallera, I am just saying my point of view!

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LKru33: It is spamming to squabbling!

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Weeee.. a fight

Oh my oh my... quit a bit and look how many whiners appear... not good not good...

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That's all, I don't want no QP back, i don't want no mercy, i don't want to be no center of attention i don't want every member of HC who never even spoke to me before (eigher on IM or MSN or ZONE) throwing their 2 cents about what i did. This is ancient history now.So please guys let me be, eigher you find me quilty or not.It's water undr the bridge and there is no undoing in it now.

IM NOT GUILTY

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Thank you all for your replies here, good or bad. First of all i want to say that i regret this whole incident and that i think i acted stupid to respond to Val in the first place.
Related to the "direct insults", i think i was wrongfully judged all the way to the post that got me the 2nd Qp. I really tried to mentain a civilised attitude until then, even though i didn't think i deserved Val threatening me, nor do i think i deserved my first  penalty. Fact is my anger kept getting bigger and bigger as Val posted, threatening and threatening for no reason IMHO. I don't think it's fair to "cut a little more slack" to the newer members as Val said in his post here and slap the older ones to the face for the same thing. I read the first post i got a -Qp for over and over again and i can't really find the "direct insults" in it. I said at one point "why whine like a little foo".I reckon this is the most insulting paragraph of my post.A comparation such as that one is a figure of speach meant to describe a state of facts based by a practical exemple.It is by no means a way to describe a certain individual. So if i say about an athlet that he leaps like a frog, that by no means call him a frog.So please make a difference.
The whole story was meant to be, as i said to Dirk on MSN, as a good laugh on GS about that guy's opinions. We laughed there, and i just quoted a small part of his post saying it was terrific.Then he took it bad so i said to him "well if instead of learning something you will begin to cry like a little girl (watch out here is another comparation) i guess my help isn't needed. C ya"
That was meant to be all from what im concearned. And i think i made it clear. These posts of mine were deleted by Valeriy to prevent "a potential flamewar". I don't see where the "potential" flamming would have occured since i made it clear my buisseness with FoG was over.So for me, seing Val coming to the Library(which he so rarely does. He didn't even do it when much greater scandals were happening there) and taking matters into his own hands seemed way out of line. So i posted in reply to him saying "i think that was uncalled for". What i forgot to mention was that Val ended his 1st post threatening that all future attempts of discriminatory treatment will be severely punished. After my reply to him val posted again and also ended his post threatening future noob bashing. I couldn't understand why he did that then and i can't understand it now eigher, but, what i realise now is that i was a fool to take them so personally.I felt insulted by those threats since my intention originally was by no means to trash FoG, on the contrary i tried to explain him that his way of thinking isn't really correct.So yes i was a fool to take Val's threats personally and i felt insulted by each of them.
Then came friday afternoon, when i spoke to Angelito and he explained me that Val wants to make an exemple because of H5 attracted new members. He made a valid point so i decided to let this whole issue be.
Then came another episode i couldn't understand: FoG posted, saying "what is it about MP that turns people into such snobs?"I couldn't understand this reaction from him. I must say that in my last post towards him, i tried to explain a cool trick called the poor man's Town Portal, which is an rather unknown tactic that can be used in a game. I expected him to burry the war axe and thank me for the tip lol. Instead i get called a snob.
At that point this is how i seen things.I considered that post by him is really a challange to me because he knew he has his back covered by Val.I couldn't then and i cannot find now some valid reasons for his attitude.I replied to him (this is the post that got me the first -QP) and i tried to keep my temper even though i was shocked by the nerve of that guy.I tried not to insult him in any way. And i think i succeded!!! Unfortunately Val didn't think so.
From that point all i just snapped and started talking trash.
So this is the story as i see it: should Val didn't have interviened, that whole thing would have been dead and burried. Should he not have threatened me 2 times, i wouldn't have posted in that thread again. Should FoG wouldn't have defied me calling me names, i wouldn't have responded to him. Should Val didn't WRONGFULLY PUNISHED me by my first -QP, i wouldn't have replied in that manner.

IMHO it's a matter of action and reaction and from that picture, im not the one acting, but the one reacting. At this point i know i reacted based on the first impulse and i was wrong to lower myself to such level.

In the end i would like to make it clear, it's not a matter of getting my QP's back, it's a matter of people trying to see things my way for a minute.
I will not responde to more insults, because if ended up being a spammer by another member, that already surpasses my power of comprehension.

This is my version of this whole incident; i think i didn't deserved to be punished, i think this whole thing could have been solved much less painful for me with a little use of a skill often banned (and not only in MP games): DIPLOMACY.I acted like a foo and Val didn't gave a damn about my reasoning.Obviously i was the one to suffer.

That's all, I don't want no QP back, i don't want no mercy, i don't want to be no center of attention i don't want every member of HC who never even spoke to me before (eigher on IM or MSN or ZONE) throwing their 2 cents about what i did. This is ancient history now.So please guys let me be, eigher you find me quilty or not.It's water undr the bridge and there is no undoing in it now.

IM NOT GUILTY

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One who tends to patronize, rebuff, or ignore people regarded as social inferiors and imitate, admire, or seek association with people regarded as social superiors.
One who affects an offensive air of self-satisfied superiority in matters of taste or intellect.

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My post got in the Turban Tribunal, now I will be taken seriously...

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A newbie (written in 1337 as: n00b) is a newcomer to a particular field, the term being commonly used on the Internet, where it might refer to new, inexperienced, or ignorant users of a game, a newsgroup, an operating system or the Internet itself. The term is generally regarded as an insult, although in many cases more experienced/knowledgeable people use it in purposes of negative reinforcement, urging “newbies” to learn more about the field or area in question.

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