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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 06, 2006 11:27 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 23:33, 08 Jun 2007.

New heroes bio and heroes pages

Ubi is kindly releasing new heroes bios, on a weekly basis for quite some time now. As you've certainly seen, I've been updating our heroes pages here with this info as quickly as possible.

For example, I just updated Academy heroes, to add Havez and Narxes:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/academy_heroes.shtml

You might wonder, however, how I matched heroes with skills and specialties. That deserves a long due explanation, especially since some choices are to be taken with caution (Cyrus...).

Basically, what I do when a new hero bio comes out is match him/her with an existing hero in the beta. In most cases, that is easy because the bio clearly mentions a special ability: Havez, for example, is clearly the Gremlin specialist (Artisan), while Narxes is the Mage specialist (Mentor).

In other cases, that is not so clear: Cyrus and Nur have been especially tricky. Especially considering that 11 academy heroes have been disclosed, when they were only 10 in the beta...

That means that apart from the names and bios, any other information on our final heroes pages is not more than a guess of mine, and may very well be completely wrong.

With that warning in mind, let's discuss some tricky choices:
- Cyrus:
There is a Cyrus in the beta, which has 'Radiant' special, and which I first matched to 'final Cyrus'. I changed him to Artisan after the batch of Academy heroes, because it was the only free spot, but that turns out to be a poor choice, with Havez' release yesterday... So Cyrus is back to Radiant.

- Nur:
In the beta, the hero named 'Nur' was 'Wielder of Fire'. But while that special is clearly stated in Nathir bio, Nur "is capable of constantly replenishing her own arcane energies": that means Inexhaustible to me.
Note that she may very well have a new specialty, one that was not available in the beta...

- Freyda:
I chosed Expediter over Wanderer for her mainly because of the similarities in her bio and Axel's.

- Biara:
Biara's bio doesn't mention her being a Gate Keeper at all. But without any better match so far, I sticked to the Biara hero described in the beta files.
If anything, she could be a Hypnotist, but she seems to be a campaign hero, which Efion (beta Hypnotist) is not.

- Raven:
Raven's special described in her bio is very similar to the Maledictor special. I guess its effect has been tweaked, as I don't see a second such special being added.

- Alaron:
Being a Forest Guardian is not clear in his bio. That was mostly a last spot guess. Seeing how it turned out with Cyrus makes me wonder...


I'll add some more comments here when new heroes are revealed. In the mean time, I'm looking forward to read your comments and suggestions.

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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 12, 2006 07:34 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 23:33, 08 Jun 2007.

5 new Dungeon heroes added:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/dungeon_heroes.shtml

Matching specials was a no-brainer this time...

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Hrushov17
Hrushov17


Adventuring Hero
posted April 13, 2006 01:16 AM

this is some awsome info thanks

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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 15, 2006 09:03 PM
Edited by sfidanza at 22:42, 04 May 2006.

Well, with the demo out, no more guesses We have the real stuff.
I mean, since I've just updated the heroes pages with the demo information, you have the real stuff!!

Note that Maahir has disappeared from the Academy forces (no idea why, but I guess he'll be back in the release). Also, Gilraen (Sylvan) seems to have temporarily lost his icon.

Also note many skills, abilities and specials names have changed. Go to the skills pages to master the new ones.

As before, click on the hero icon to get his/her artwork portrait (some are still missing, until Ubi release them).

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Mantra
Mantra


Adventuring Hero
posted May 10, 2006 01:50 PM

Maahir = Cyrus when he was young
There will be a single scenario, Maahir's Gambit, that will show his raise to power.
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memep6
memep6

Tavern Dweller
posted June 28, 2006 10:59 AM

I have a question. Where did you find this Hero: Temkhan (Campaign Hero) I  can't findí it any ware

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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 29, 2006 05:22 AM

He is in the game files, but nowhere to be seen in game so far.
"In the game files" means in the deep layers of the data.pak file, containing many secrets of the game, and from where I extract the information...

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memep6
memep6

Tavern Dweller
posted June 29, 2006 11:05 AM

Quote:
He is in the game files, but nowhere to be seen in game so far.
"In the game files" means in the deep layers of the data.pak file, containing many secrets of the game, and from where I extract the information...


I know is there... i've seen him there also, but where i9n the game??????????? He has a nice ability, and an interesting face.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted June 29, 2006 11:34 AM

Is there any chance he is an opponent in a single scenario?You know,the campaign-like scenarios.
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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 29, 2006 04:54 PM
Edited by sfidanza at 16:57, 29 Jun 2006.

Quote:
Is there any chance he is an opponent in a single scenario?You know,the campaign-like scenarios.

Sorry, but no. At least not with one we have now.
However, you will be able to add it in a map with the map editor.

Quote:
I know is there... i've seen him there also, but where i9n the game???????????

Sorry if I wasn't clear. The short answer is: nowhere.

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invincible
invincible

Tavern Dweller
Implosion Queen
posted February 14, 2007 04:19 AM

Heroes Join/Group

Hi, I have a question.

In Heroes IV, I can join 2 or more heroes in a group.
While in combat I can use 2 heroes for example with their different abilities.

Why in Heroes V I can not do that ???

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darksequence
darksequence


Hired Hero
For great justice!
posted February 14, 2007 04:33 AM
Edited by darksequence at 04:35, 14 Feb 2007.

Quote:
Hi, I have a question.

In Heroes IV, I can join 2 or more heroes in a group.
While in combat I can use 2 heroes for example with their different abilities.

Why in Heroes V I can not do that ???


Well thats bacause homm5 is more like homm3, heroes are no longer units like homm4. you can only cast spells, attack or use abilities, they cannot be attacked, when all your units perish your hero loses the battle and returns for hire in the tavern. also every army can have only one hero(leader)..
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Daystar
Daystar


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted February 14, 2007 04:56 AM

Also, having more than one hero in an army defeated the purpose of the "Heroes" of might and magic.  

I'd just like to say here and now that the HV set up for improving your hero is great, and does the bes job I've seen yet at living up to the title.
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invincible
invincible

Tavern Dweller
Implosion Queen
posted February 15, 2007 03:06 AM

Quote:
Quote:
Hi, I have a question.

In Heroes IV, I can join 2 or more heroes in a group.
While in combat I can use 2 heroes for example with their different abilities.

Why in Heroes V I can not do that ???


Well thats bacause homm5 is more like homm3, heroes are no longer units like homm4. you can only cast spells, attack or use abilities, they cannot be attacked, when all your units perish your hero loses the battle and returns for hire in the tavern. also every army can have only one hero(leader)..


Ok thanks for your explanation. Anyway, I just used scholar for trading spell between two heroes.

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Miru
Miru


Supreme Hero
A leaf in the river of time
posted June 08, 2007 09:40 PM

Quote:
Sorry, but no. At least not with one we have now.
However, you will be able to add it in a map with the map editor.[/qoute]
I just tried, I couldn't find him in the map editor
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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 08, 2007 10:58 PM
Edited by sfidanza at 00:10, 09 Jun 2007.

Temkhan has indeed been disabled in latest patch. Sorry.
Elvin is right: he's in, called Timerkhan. I didn't test if the map works correctly afterwards though.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted June 08, 2007 11:50 PM

Are you sure? I'm positive I had added him as a garrisoned hero in my AI testing in 2.1.
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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 09, 2007 12:11 AM

You're right. Statement fixed.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted June 09, 2007 12:44 PM

I went back to check my map but... I could not see him in the hero list or add him as a garrisoned hero Of course I had modified the original map but I should still be able to add him in a new one...
I don't know either I messed with something or I was mistaken in the first place in which case I'm sorry.

Where did you see Timerkhan?
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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 09, 2007 02:39 PM

I opened a new map in the editor (1.5 and 2.1), added a Wizard, opened the object property panel, the (...) button on the "Shared" property, and selected /MapObjects/Academy/Timerkhan.... in the list.
As I said, I didn't try further to see if it actually worked in the game.

What I said first, that he wasn't available in the editor, was based on the fact that in latest patches, his definition file: /MapObjects/Academy/Timerkhan.(AdvMapHeroShared).xdb
contains this line at the end:
<HideInEditor>true</HideInEditor>

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