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russ
russ


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blah, blah, blah
posted May 05, 2006 03:43 AM

Dedicated to 9/11 victims...

Watch it - you won't regret it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7218920724339766288&q=loose+change

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LegendMaker
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The Metal Specialist
posted May 07, 2006 07:30 PM

Pay To Die

Watch it real thoroughly.

Then you will be aware that an evil version of David Copperfield mystified you and brainwashed you 5 years ago. And your eyes have remained more or less closed eversince. Too afraid to open them.

Now, with open eyes, you will scream. But it won't be a terror scream. It will be a manifestation of pure ANGER.

Personnally, I feel much safer as an individual, in this world, than I used to feel when I was still brainwashed into believing that a handful of random third-world wankers could take over the planet with a plastic knife or two. It takes much more than just that.

If you want to screw the masses up the ***, trust me : BIGGER is BETTER. Always.

Remember the burning of the Reichstag. Remember the night of the long knives. Remember the 21st of April 2002, in France. And countless other cases of mass-brainwashing.
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friendofgunnar
friendofgunnar


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posted May 07, 2006 10:23 PM

oh man...
I come here to escape reality not get a shotgun blast in the face with it

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LegendMaker
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The Metal Specialist
posted May 07, 2006 11:40 PM

Quote:
oh man...
I come here to escape reality not get a shotgun blast in the face with it

Okay, dude, just close your eyes again, if you wish.



Want me to sing a sweet dreams song for you ?
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friendofgunnar
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posted May 07, 2006 11:43 PM

LMkA O

sporry gahard to type witgh etes clos d

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russ
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blah, blah, blah
posted May 09, 2006 04:37 PM

Noone else watched this movie? When I say you won't regret it - I MEAN it. It is one of those things that may change how you view the world.

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Xarfax111
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posted May 09, 2006 07:28 PM

Wars usually start with fairy tales:

Adolf Hitler 01/11/39:

„Polen hat heute Nacht auf unserem eigenen Territorium auch mit bereits regulären Soldaten geschossen! Seit 5 Uhr 45 wird jetzt zurückgeschossen, und ab jetzt wird Bombe mit Bombe vergolten!!"

If u dont have a reason, find one!
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Nidhgrin
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baking cookies from stardust
posted May 09, 2006 09:05 PM

To many Europeans Russ, this is no big surprise.  Still, even though the video and many other sources of information going against the cartoon logic of the Bush administration are very credible, the thruth will probably be somewhere in the middle.

In my opinion it's best to keep your mind open and always take other perspectives into consideration, no matter how convinced you are about something.  Thruth really is a matter of perspective, and if you shut that out, conviction can easily turn into fanatism.

Be it as it may, the true victims here are the thousands of American civilians who lost their families or lives, the inhabitants of Afghanistan who had nothing to do with this, and the people of Iraq who are in the midst of a civil war now.  Such a staggering loss of human lives and waste of potential and for what?

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Wiseman
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posted May 09, 2006 09:15 PM

Quote:
Noone else watched this movie? When I say you won't regret it - I MEAN it. It is one of those things that may change how you view the world.



If all it takes to change your world view is a 80 min documentary you found on the Net, then something is seriously wrong with your world view.
Having said that, I must admit that it is quite a nice movie indeed.
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russ
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posted May 09, 2006 09:48 PM

What's up with the patronizing attitude towards me? This thread is NOT about me. I DID NOT ask anyone to evaluate my view of the world (especially considering the fact that you have NO idea about what it is).
Btw, Wiseman, you may want to consider learning English some day if you don't understand the meaning of the phrase: "It is one of those things that may change how you view the world." You can start by comparing it to something like "This movie has changed my view of the world."

Having said all that, I'd just like to add that while this video did not have a very drastic effect on my view of the world, I think it is possible for some dramatic event to change it A LOT faster than 80 minutes. However, I think that for many Americans who are open enough to accept the facts shown in this this video, it may be a real eye opener.

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Binabik
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posted May 09, 2006 09:55 PM

I have dial up, so there's no way I'm downloading something that big.

Could someone summarize what the heck you're talking about?
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russ
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blah, blah, blah
posted May 09, 2006 10:09 PM

You need to see the documentary yourself. If I try to summarize it, this thread will turn into "bash Russ because he said something that is considered a taboo in our country" thread. The movie isn't very big, with my cable connection (by far not the fastest) it was streaming 3x faster than the speed of movie. I guess with dial up you may want to wait until it preloads about 3/4 before starting to watch it, so just open this link, leave it running for about an hour, then come back, scroll the movie back to the beginning and watch it.

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Shiva
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posted May 09, 2006 10:30 PM

He says " in 1945, a b-52 hit the Empire State".
There were no b-52's in 1945, in fact it was a
b25. Just because this guy says it is so and made a
movie, does not mean it is so. There are alot of
questions, many leaps of logic and very little
actual proof.
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Corribus
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted May 09, 2006 10:46 PM
Edited by Corribus at 22:46, 09 May 2006.

I watched about 1 minute before I decided it was complete baloney.  Sorry, it takes more than this to change my life, world-view, philosophy, whatever.

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russ
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posted May 09, 2006 10:46 PM

Wow! He said it was b-52 while in reality it was b-25 - that definitely means that the movie is full of it!!! I mean - the model of the plane that he mentioned abruptly while talking about different high rise building accidents was the key point of this movie! The fact that he got the model of the plane wrong while talking about approximately 10 different cases of high rise building fires is a definite proof that this movie is a hoax!
Damn, such a gap in the logic! How could someone like that even DARE to question the rock-solid logic with which the white house explained what happened on Sept 11?

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russ
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blah, blah, blah
posted May 09, 2006 10:48 PM
Edited by russ at 22:52, 09 May 2006.

Quote:
I watched about 1 minute before I decided it was complete baloney.  Sorry, it takes more than this to change my life, world-view, philosophy, whatever.
Yep, everything that accuses Hitler of burning the Reichstag is baloney. The true patriots should not trust anyone besides their Fuhrer!

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Celfious
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posted May 09, 2006 10:51 PM

The speaker sounds like a loser wanting to make a popular internet video. If you want to make a successful internet thing, bring out the MAIN facts and dont take nearly an hour to say them.

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Shiva
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posted May 09, 2006 10:52 PM
Edited by Shiva at 22:53, 09 May 2006.

Quote:
Wow! He said it was b-52 while in reality it was b-25 - that definitely means that the movie is full of it!!! I mean - the model of the plane that he mentioned abruptly while talking about different high rise building accidents was the key point of this movie! The fact that he got the model of the plane wrong while talking about approximately 10 different cases of high rise building fires is a definite proof that this movie is a hoax!
Damn, such a gap in the logic! How could someone like that even DARE to question the rock-solid logic with which the white house explained what happened on Sept 11?

No it just means I can be certain of him being inaccurate there.
And there may be other places, but I don't claim to know what
happened during 911.
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russ
russ


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posted May 09, 2006 11:06 PM

Quote:
No it just means I can be certain of him being inaccurate there.
And there may be other places, but I don't claim to know what
happened during 911.
Have you considered looking at things that ARE accurate? Most of what he says is easily verifiable. It is extremely easy to download all the footage off the Internet, for example. Pretty much everything besides what he says about Osama can be verified.

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Shiva
Shiva


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posted May 09, 2006 11:28 PM

Actually, I have read a great deal of conspiracy
theories, not because I believe them, but because I
like to know what people think. Try reading this:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

Just an example from the other side.

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