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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Ashan - a new beginning
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posted May 29, 2007 11:21 PM

Hashima sounds Japanese.  I'm fairly certain that the Nagas will be Japanese.
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posted May 30, 2007 12:12 AM

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you mean never make it in hommV, because I'm pretty sure we will find out in hommVI what faction lives in Karthal.

also there was a second map, after a cataclysm or something, and there in the Jade Ocean(southeast) there is an island called Hashima - maybe that's where the naga live. ON the normal Ashan map there is an Archipelago in the Jade Ocean which corresponds to where Hashima and the other islands are on the other map


That map was from Dark Messiah and will probably have relevance for Heroes 6.
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posted May 30, 2007 12:44 AM

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That is a very good question. The MYC - which may and may not be of stricly official origin, and which they might have deviated from since this post's origin - indicates that these Barbarian tribes would be Human tribes, as the Humans originally worshipped Sylath. It would have made sense to have some sort of alliance between this barbaric Humans and the Orcs -



Wouldn't it make sense then to have barbaric humans as an alt. upgrades for orcs?

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posted May 30, 2007 12:51 AM

...no...
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posted May 30, 2007 12:53 AM

Don't wanna sound like a douche but it seems like Ubisoft/Nival didnt bother much with the history. Seems kinda lazy job on their part, the usual "it came from nothing" theory

"So there was this one BIIG almighty guy who was there from the beginning, he created seven other guys with different characteristics  who would then control all the other guys....oh and there was the evil dude who would oppose everyone"

The events of the history are better but how can you build a good house if the foundings crumble"

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posted May 30, 2007 01:01 AM

Well, Tolkien tried it himself and it never crumbled
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posted May 30, 2007 01:14 AM

besides, you have to start somewhere.  And if it was really well developed the cutscenes would have dragged on until judgement day, and every one would have committed suicide.
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posted May 30, 2007 10:19 AM
Edited by watcher83 at 10:19, 30 May 2007.

On the same map I was talking about earlier, where Karthal is found on the Ashan map you can find a region called Challoth

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posted May 30, 2007 10:31 PM
Edited by Monteniger at 22:38, 30 May 2007.

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naga is a race, it wasn't created by the mages, they are described as a wise race, and their patron is Shalassa
greek,turkish,roman...nothing in common with katanas and japanese buildings


it's Turkish and the best suiting for Nagas ... With pools,bath houses and fierce soldiers Turks were smth amazing... Naga temple doesn't exclude Karthal and maybe they would make a mix of Japanese and
Turk architecture?They should've left orcs for H6 and make for them smth proper...this way we'll wait for nagas in H6 and they'll make up a story filled with holes and true fans won't be pleased again...

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also there was a second map, after a cataclysm or something, and there in the Jade Ocean(southeast) there is an island called Hashima - maybe that's where the naga live. ON the normal Ashan map there is an Archipelago in the Jade Ocean which corresponds to where Hashima and the other islands are on the other map


You mean this one :


As I heard )read( it was a map planned for some Chinese Heroes...

Doesn't have to do anything with H6 ...

And if this world blows up it would just show that Ubival is Really without imagination...

And actually Talonguard would have to blow up if this two maps are going to have something in common...

P.S now that I think of it it looks like H4 map... With some MM9 elements... doom sea and all ... Paleadra from  h4 ... I know that all  names don't fit but just a thought...

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posted May 31, 2007 09:45 AM

you may be right, who knows...
anyway nagas and a faction worshipping Sylath are a must

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posted May 31, 2007 10:24 AM

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you may be right, who knows...
anyway nagas and a faction worshipping Sylath are a must


True ... Maybe demons will burst out at the end of the Academy campaign and simply destroy Talonguard? Big Burst and Urugash could be freed and in 6 we'll have to ensemble all races(including nagas and Dragon knights) and summon Elemental Dragons to fight him ... Or wake up Asha herself ... That will be cool... And we should finally get dark,corrupted and depressing new world ...
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posted May 31, 2007 10:44 AM

That would be good for a change. With that they could make an epic campaign if they planned it carefully. Of course we don't know yet what is the canonical ending with dark messiah.
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posted May 31, 2007 11:11 AM

in an interview some time ago it was said that at a certain point Asha will awaken
then we will have humans(free cities + haven), elves,dark elves,dwarves,naga,undead,orcs,dragon knights and wizards fighting against demons

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posted May 31, 2007 12:59 PM

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in an interview some time ago it was said that at a certain point Asha will awaken
then we will have humans(free cities + haven), elves,dark elves,dwarves,naga,undead,orcs,dragon knights and wizards fighting against demons


The Demons are in for a serious but certainly not final *ss-kicking if that would be the case. Still I can't imagine a alliance like this lasting very long, as soon as the Demons are Banished to Sheogh, the others will start fighting each other again.

This could make a Realy cool Ending Cutscene though.
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posted May 31, 2007 06:40 PM

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The Demons are in for a serious but certainly not final *ss-kicking if that would be the case. Still I can't imagine a alliance like this lasting very long, as soon as the Demons are Banished to Sheogh, the others will start fighting each other again.

This could make a Realy cool Ending Cutscene though.


You've played that mission when Vayer tries to open the portal to new Demon Sovereign? All is possible... I hope Ubi is reading this !!!

And they could form different alliances at the end for a change(If they start fighting again it would be so Warcraft)... I hate one-race nations.Make things more interesting...for examle make Orcs join the Necromancers(they both hate Wizards)... They could be seduced by skilled Vampires and could turn some leaders to undead ? Just make Giovanni ( ! )with that chick from heaven neutral... smth like that...make races abandon their gods... but now is not the time for discussing this,though...

Speaking of cutscenes it would be fair it they give us at least two(since in hof we had nothing) - one as the starting one(could be some orc invasion  and that finishing one where Urgash destroys Talonguard...
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posted June 03, 2007 11:26 PM

In Turkish - Karthal(originally Kartal) means Eagle
btw Zehir means 'Poison' , I was suprised when I saw those Turkish names in the game
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posted June 04, 2007 08:08 AM
Edited by watcher83 at 11:22, 21 Jun 2007.

then maybe we will have rocs in Karthal
Anyway, still no answer for my northern barbarian tribes question.
Does anybody know if Mantra is still on the forum? or where he got the info? anybody? anything?

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posted June 21, 2007 11:53 AM

Nobody knows anything. It's still just pure speculation. Haven't seen Mantra around for ages.

My guess will be that the Nothern Barbarian thing was an idea later discarded - but it might also be that the human females with the Orcs (Shamans) are remnants of this.
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posted June 21, 2007 01:13 PM

maybe we'll know more from the ToE storyline

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posted June 21, 2007 05:23 PM
Edited by ChaosDragon at 17:28, 21 Jun 2007.

Yeah, i'm curious about the awakening of asha, fabrice himself said this in an interview several months ago (maybe january), it's cool to see one of the primordial dragons in action. Then, all races and their six dragon gods + asha will fight againts urgash and his demons, and the world will tremble. Fabrice also said something about silvria, one of the moon of ashan said to be asha's place to rest after her fight with urgash.


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