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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Lvl 7 creatures... are they really worthed the money
Thread: Lvl 7 creatures... are they really worthed the money This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
Demortae
Demortae


Adventuring Hero
posted August 25, 2006 02:24 PM

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I've been playing around with the idea of leaving some creatures out and going straight for the 7th tier building 'early'.  For example in my last game I left out Hydras (sulfur) and went for Black Dragons instead.  You might be able to get away with leaving out units in other factions too, at least until you have that top level dwelling accumulating creatures.

For example, I find the djinn useless so I sometimes don't build them at all and instead use a stack that joins me.

Good idea, bad?


The djinn aren't useless, their growth increase building (treasure cove) gives you 500 gold a day.  

I usually just leave the djinn, but I'd certainly always build the buildings, djinn have great offense, and serve well as an emergency backup.
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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted September 13, 2006 10:31 PM

1.3 changes the price of the lvl 7 buildings, so things should be quite different now ...

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Shauku83
Shauku83


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posted September 13, 2006 10:38 PM

Tower, can you give some cost examples?

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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted September 13, 2006 10:46 PM

Angels/Devils building -> 10000 gold
Shadow Drags/Giants building -> 12000 gold
Green Drags building -> 8000 gold
Bone Drags building -> 6000 gold

Really really low prices , compared to what they used to be!


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Shauku83
Shauku83


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posted September 13, 2006 10:52 PM
Edited by Shauku83 at 22:53, 13 Sep 2006.

Indeed... I am afraid now one must fast build into level 7's again like in h3.. I hope that is not what happens

On the otherhand, it can be good. Especially the Colossus building that is now 8000 cheaper, is only reasonable

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 13, 2006 10:54 PM

Holy...What about the resource requirements,are they the same?I also wonder what it takes to upg them.Titan's dwelling isn't at 30000 I hope.
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Shauku83
Shauku83


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posted September 13, 2006 10:57 PM

Atleast Master Gremlin upgrade is lowered from 15 ore to 5, YEAY!
But now Getting Rakhasas is harder, as it requires 17 Sulphur (mages + library)...
Genie building doesn't cost Gems anymore though, excellent.

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DragonLord3000
DragonLord3000


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posted September 13, 2006 11:14 PM

Maybe they are,but not all of them.So here are my ideas:

Angel:I'd prefer to not build it unless I can built the Archangel structure in the nearest future.So i give them a shot.
Devil:this creature is one of my favorites,so I built them whenever I can,but always watching my recources.Plus the Archdevil is a little expensive so it has to wait a bit.
Black Dragon:I can wait to get my hands on this creature,though take my time before building it's structure......in other words,since it is very powerfull and very usefull I say triple yes in his case.
Titan:Expensive,but helpfull.almost every time i use just the collosi to finish a game,just when I am in a very pleasant state of spirit upgrade them.Have good stats,so yes in their cases too.
Emerald dragons\Green dragon:They are not that powerfull in big games.almost in every battle they die,but are very cheap to build and are decisive in battles.
Spectral Dragon:It's weak bodies and stats don't help this creature in being one of whoom I'd say yes.Therefore,it's low hit points for a level 7,low damage,and attack make this creature very dissapointing in the eyes of many.Some structure can be built to spped up their numbers by 1.only real plus I can give it to it.
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ZeroXcuses
ZeroXcuses


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posted September 14, 2006 03:46 AM

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No problem with that.Once I thought a 5-archdevil stack wasn't much of threat only to witness the summoning of 10 pitlords I lost the battle.
BTW how on earth does the AI build 7-tier creatures so fast AND buy them?Not to mention how fast it upgrades them too.Jeez...Good thing it makes crappy decisions.


The AI cheats. You didn't know? Do that console cheat code thing and open the console and watch the AI turns. I have not played HV in A WHOLE MONTH (protesting the AI), but IIRC, the AI generally has over 100K gold on day one.

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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted September 14, 2006 03:39 PM

I still wouldn't go for Angels ... they are still useless to me , maybe they can become an alternative to Paladins if you have to defeat enemy towns!

The Devils on the other hand are a must build right now! I think they are much more usefull than the pit lords in most situations, it is a good thing to have both, but if you can't I'd go for the Devils.

The Green Dragons are a must build, now more than before...
The Colossi, are a much better choice right now, if the game allows to upgrade them, then they are a must have !
The Shadow Dragons , almost become a must have ... and the Bone Dragons are probably still useless, but more affordable in terms of money, I dont know what to say

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted September 14, 2006 08:35 PM

yup, it's not a bad idea to go for devils now.

But.. 20 mercury for the boners dwelling LMAO? what's this, a joke?

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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted September 15, 2006 10:09 AM

Lvl 7s are definately making a comeback! Their dwellings are very cheap and even thier upgrades aren't really very expensive... I think this is definately a good thing, and it brings several new options for playing.
In short games now you can use the unupgraded lvl 7s, instead of building lvl 6s and upgrading them(this is now a cheaper option even !!!), and in long games you can choose to let a big number build and then upgrade , so there are definately more choices than before and this is a very good thing !!!

I think this gives academy , the chance to use its beloved titans . I am starting to like these 1.3 changes !

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RaZmuShaDoW
RaZmuShaDoW


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posted September 15, 2006 01:05 PM

Funny thing - I build my Dragons dwelling just before the patch 1.03 and the Black Dragons upgrade after 1.03. There was practicaly no price difference

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