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posted September 08, 2006 12:04 AM |
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In this case is no matter of colour skin... is matter of geography and ideology... Binabik is correct about all his mexican research... you can find a lot of diferent mexicans types... There are also some tribes that his origin are not american, for example "Los Memonitas" their origin is german I guess they come to mexico just after the spanish conquer... and they live isolated in some places of mexico and with his own customs... but they are mexicans too...
Personaly I have no dark skin... my hair is brown also my eyes... more like an spanish than any mesoamerican tribe...
@Russ I don't know you... but I doubt you are a racist guys... maybe you just make a joke that you feel was innocent... but we must consider that the word "Mexican" include the 103 millions of mexicans in Mexico...
As I said before I don't have any problem to be the mexican guy... and if someone say That I have a big hat, a big moustache, drink tequila and who likes the soccer... but I can't avoid to feel attacked if you say that any mexican is a thief...
@Acu I know about what you are talking about it... my state Zacatecas have one of the higher percentage of migration... and I see how the families here suffer the lack of one of the parents... and this makes the education more difficult for them... and when they decided to go to the states... they are less prepared than the fathers... and maybe that's why the mexicans there have that kind of behaivor... in the states are about 38 millions of mexicans... but how many of them are making jobs that anybody wants?? how many of the just want a better future for his families??? how many of them want to return to mexico??? I can say you... there a lot of Good mexicans in the states... and the bad ones... generally are the ones who grows there... not here...
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posted September 08, 2006 01:20 AM |
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I agree Rusty  .
Mexicans are a race though.
I am not talking about Mexico at all though Crusader.
I am mostly talking about the illegal immigrants.
I met many good people in mexico & i know there are good people there.
Like you said Crusader, they came to the states & needed to prepare so they will do whatever it takes to support thier big family.
Unfortunately they will do whatever it takes.
I am not saying it's all them.
It takes two & it's always a problem as much as a solution.
I think a solution might be too big.
Like asking for peace in the world.
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posted September 08, 2006 01:29 AM |
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Oh goody a racist’ thread, all kinds of fun. First as you can tell from my pics I’m white, what the hell does that mean to me, nothing? I’m not into defending my German/Italian background at all cost. In reality if you look around us we have become this melting pot of ****. If I were eighty percent Cherokee or peer bread I might be more inclined to defend my “race”. I live here in America and I feel that we as Americans (those who are here legally and pay our taxes) should all be treated equally. Well that has been proven to be a line of bull**** (treated equally). I went to apply for a job and among my competitors for the position was myself, two white women one pregnant and one disabled. The rest were from different nationalities and I knew walking in that as a white female my chances were nil. I’m up against a disabled pregnant white women or a group of “equal opportunity potential employees” (people of different races.)
I love diversity I guess I just never thought that I would be fighting them for a chance at a job that we were both equally educated on. The new law in Illinois is that all under the age of eighteen whether they are legal or not will get insurance regardless of the legality issues. Should children all have insurance? YES!!! Should all adults have insurance? YES!!! Well I don’t see the same being offered to my children one of which has CP. I have to pay for half of there medical bills. If we would have swam over here and crossed the borders, perched ourselves on the steps of Department of Human Services, we would have medical insurance at no cost. NICE! Since when do we reward people for breaking the law? Oh that’s right since we have been putting criminals behind bars to bask in the pleasures of cable, free education, and three square meals a day. **** all I have to do is swim over here and bury some ten-year girl after I have mutilated her and then if I cut myself in the mean time I can benefit from the free medical plan that you as a taxpayer will bless me with. Something wrong with this picture? DAMN RIGHT!!!! There needs to be a plan set into place that allows humans to have the same pleasures as other humans but only if it is through hard work and not handouts. We all get down on our luck sometimes; this does not mean that we should take advantage of others who work for what they have. Come here legally and spread your wings all you want. I know that your little girls are being pimped out at ten and that you live in coffee bean fields. Read some of our news and you will see the level of poverty is on the rise and the same sick **** happens here as it does in other countries, we just choose to look away because we are America, land of self absorbed opportunity…
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posted September 08, 2006 01:35 AM |
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Edited by Aculias at 01:36, 08 Sep 2006.
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I only read your first sentence.
I had to say that this is as far as you can get to being a racist thread.
I simply made some facts.
There was a bit of confusion & we settled it.
I think you got it all wrong again Flower.
I refuse to read anymore then that one 3 word sentence you wrote.
Edit:To Val & others. This is just me as a member & not if it was different
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posted September 08, 2006 01:45 AM |
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Edited by angelito at 01:49, 08 Sep 2006.
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Only a short info refering to the clasification of "Caucasian" to people from Mexico or "similar" countries. They don't belong to the caucasian "type" anymore, but to the so called "Hispanoid".
Besides Caucasier (Europide), there are Mongoloid (asian), Negrid (african) and the mentioned Hispanoid (latins).
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posted September 08, 2006 06:18 AM |
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equal opportunity potential employees
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posted September 08, 2006 05:33 PM |
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Edited by Aculias at 17:34, 08 Sep 2006.
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Yea it does say it but it's not like that because the illegal immigrants out here dont want it that way.
They only care about themselves & steal.
They dont care about equal pay.
They want to work for less.
That is the way they get more work so they can move back to Mexico to support thier families.
Screwing us over in the process.
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posted September 09, 2006 11:50 AM |
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Edited by Celfious at 12:39, 09 Sep 2006.
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What other options do these Mexicans have? I hear livers are being sold in some south american places. I hear of other farming cultures around the world, and in Mexico, that had a laborous but simple life, then came in the investors and said "this is money, used to buy our things, work for our money" and in short time the community was doing nothing but (IE) aquiring resources and products, abandoning their farms to most extents, ect... Well in most cases when the land was done up, or something better came along, all the production machines we sold them became usless since we, turned our backs on them. (This stuff is real, but not popular amongst the Americans. They messed up some of the mexican cultures lives over our greed.)
In some views, like one I have not really explored, I can hear a bunch of Americans saying "I want the job and its my land and I was here first and I deserve it because I live here" then you have the Mexicans who really go the distance, who work for bare minimum, and who would go to the end of the earth if its all they had left. Who wants the job more?
Who needs it more? Thats another question.
Please dont think I take any stance on this argument because I'm smart enough to see there are things I dont know.
So anyways three questions are
1: who needs it more?
2: What other options do they have?
These are serious questions. Please dont assume you know what I feel about the situation. There are so many possibilities of whats right and wrong in this situation.
3: Is our $5 to them worth like 50 bucks or something? If there was a country I could cross the border too and make $60+ an hour i'd be there trust me.
dont believe or disbelieve in a war until you know enough facts of life. Unless we're talking faith or something...
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posted September 09, 2006 12:40 PM |
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Teh real problem here isnt race - its hate.
The racial groupings is just a secondary thing, used as a way to define "we", and "them" - so that ppl know who to hate. Ppl help and care for the ones in the "we"-group, and hate or dislike the ones in the "they"-group. These "we"-groups can be a family, a neighbourhood, a town, a state, a country, a people, a continent, or a religion.
Generally, the smarter someone is, the larger the "we"-group is. A mentally ill criminal might only include himself in his "we"-group, while a scientist or a doctor might want to help everyone, and have the world in one big "we"-group. However, as living conditions harden, I think the "we"-groups shrink proportionally, so that a person who has to struggle for survival may care only for his family, while a person who is spoiled with never having to struggle, may care for the whole world it a way that seems naive to the poor person.
As I see it, there are two solutions:
1. Wait for IQ levels to rise, and education to educate ppl into caring for their fellow human beings.
2. Make sure that everyone is better off everywhere, so that they wont have to struggle for survival.
Meanwhile we could attempt to minimize the fighting going on, until the source is no longer there.
Btw do u really wear a sombrero? 
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posted September 09, 2006 06:27 PM |
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Haha nope.
I am far from racist, I have no problem working with any of them.
The actions they take as I explained above is selfish.
I understand but these Mexicans dont live in Mexico.
Some will with alot of money soon.
I understand but they can make good money without screwing us over in the process.
COnstruction & other labor jobs pay good money.
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posted September 11, 2006 08:39 PM |
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Edited by Celfious at 20:42, 11 Sep 2006.
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I guess I'll chop out all the unnessesary in my above post and ask only 2 questions.
1: What other options do they have?
2: Is our $5 to them worth like 50 bucks or something? If there was a country I could cross the border too and make $60+ an hour i'd be there trust me. A 10 hour day would get me 600 bucks, for picking up trash. Every country like indonesia, bali, tailand, hongkong and all the countries more poor than the US would be here too if swimming the ocean was possible.
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posted September 12, 2006 11:02 PM |
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Somehow during all this, the Spanish interbred with the native population much more than the British and other Europeans did in the US and Canada. In the US, the native peoples were either killed directly or died from foreign disease, starvation or environmental conditions. Most of the rest were put onto reservations. To my knowledge there was little interbreeding.
Just some food for thought being a Canadian i would know.Their was interbreeding here as well.The people are known as Metis,we had our own problems up here in Canada a civil war broke out led by Louis Reil.To my knowledge here it was for similar reasons.Who knows mabye it will take another civil war to solve the mexicans problems.
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posted September 25, 2006 04:48 AM |
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Considering their birth rates, I'd argue they're surviving just fine.
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posted October 09, 2006 02:07 AM |
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As I mentioned before, I did not mention the worst of it.
There is a simple reason why Mexicans come out here illegally to work.
They are simply too poor.
Only Mexicans with money can afford a Visa.
If your poor, your basically screwed.
They should have it where Poorer Mexicans can get a Visa, unfortunately the Govt. does not help.Not to mention Mexicans Govt.
I wont go there with the people with the power of Mexico.
Therefore Mexicans have to survive.
I understand why they do what they do like I said before.
I dont support how they deal with stuff & say certain stuff to us.
I do understand though.
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