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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Way too underpowered
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Sanyu
Sanyu


Known Hero
posted September 10, 2006 06:49 AM

Way too underpowered

i think sprites' wasp swarm are only great for like the first two

weeks, then it drops to almost useless later on. The damage is much

too low and it is not even casted with basic summoning magic

(no initiative-dropping effect). They should seriously increase the

damage or at least let it be cast at basic level.

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B0rsuk
B0rsuk


Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
posted September 10, 2006 07:02 AM

Now that you mention it, yes, sprites' combat stats (hp, dmg, attack, defence) should also be increased. They're worthless after two weeks, and people concentrate on other units. This is wrong.
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Unixmage
Unixmage


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Demon Slayer
posted September 10, 2006 07:51 AM

They're the first units to go down so it doesn't really matter if they do more damage.

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DragonLord3000
DragonLord3000


Known Hero
Romanian flamethrower
posted September 10, 2006 08:08 AM

Even so,with bigger damage they still will die easily.I suggest that their hitpoints should increase
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B0rsuk
B0rsuk


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Famous Hero
DooM prophet
posted September 10, 2006 08:08 AM

Quote:
They're the first units to go down so it doesn't really matter if they do more damage.


Here, have a sarcasm meter, because yours is clearly broken.
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Unixmage
Unixmage


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Demon Slayer
posted September 10, 2006 08:47 AM

Here's what happens most of the time. Combat starts: Nightmare sees breakfast aka sprites. Nightmare eats breakfast and burps.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted September 10, 2006 09:47 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 09:48, 10 Sep 2006.

Sprite is the most dangerous creature that can guard a ore pit or sawmill.. because their DAMN wasp swarm kills a lot of your shooters and you can do NOTHING about it except taking them off the battlefield in the tactics phase (and I advise you all to do that). You want them to be even stronger pain in the ass in the earlygame? no thanks. Tier1 units generally suck in bigger battles except for skellie archers (for obvious reasons) and they're meant to be used in earlygame and that is perfectly ok.

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hellwitch
hellwitch


Known Hero
Skeleton Ruler
posted September 10, 2006 10:49 AM

in this case i think that 1 lvl creatures must be the weekest in most races - they are the easest creatures to be build after all. What will happend if you start a game and on 1st turn you build one of your best unit - the game will be over before it is started.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted September 10, 2006 11:01 AM
Edited by Elvin at 11:04, 10 Sep 2006.

So you actually believe that sprites under the command of a ranger with +3 luck,exp defence,horde dwelling and high def stats are underpowered?I can't believe you guys!Sure wasp swarm becomes kinda useless from 20 or so sprites but they can still 1)block shooters for a round 2)play defensively and cast cleansing when needed.Seriously have you faced them in numbers?(NOT neutrals)
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alcibiades
alcibiades


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Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted September 10, 2006 01:33 PM

Guys guys - they are first level creatures, they are not thought to be the backbone of your army! And excellent initiative, good damge, flying, spray attack and no retaliation - these units most certainly should NOT be any stronger! Yes, they die at a sneeze - that's the art, make cetain nobody sneezes at them - use a hit-and-run strategy, take them in, and fly them out again before enemy has turn.

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Unixmage
Unixmage


Known Hero
Demon Slayer
posted September 10, 2006 02:28 PM

I want them to have attack and return like blood furies. Also change their spell to empowered fireball and their mana to 40 and display on the screen "BURN BABY!!!" when they cast it.

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Shauku83
Shauku83


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Famous Hero
posted September 10, 2006 02:37 PM

Quote:
I want them to have attack and return like blood furies. Also change their spell to empowered fireball and their mana to 40 and display on the screen "BURN BABY!!!" when they cast it.


A good one

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted September 10, 2006 02:45 PM

Quote:
Quote:
I want them to have attack and return like blood furies. Also change their spell to empowered fireball and their mana to 40 and display on the screen "BURN BABY!!!" when they cast it.


A good one



Yeah,pretty true to the elven spirit
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m4carbine
m4carbine


Hired Hero
posted September 11, 2006 08:01 AM

They need more hit points and defence, that is the only problem they have, just make them have 8 or 10 hp they they'll be the best level 1 creature

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted September 11, 2006 10:11 AM

Quote:
They need more hit points and defence, that is the only problem they have, just make them have 8 or 10 hp they they'll be the best level 1 creature


And who said they were supposed to be the best level 1 creature?

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fishjie
fishjie


Adventuring Hero
posted September 12, 2006 05:59 PM

they're good for creeping cause of hit and run.   that's enough for me.

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Adrius
Adrius


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted October 24, 2007 12:37 PM

I wouldn´t exactly call them bad, they die easily but their spray attack really makes up for it! And i agree with Doomforge, there is no worse tier 1 unit that can guard a sawmill or oremine. (unless youre necropolis ofcourse, earthdamage immunity...)

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Nirual
Nirual


Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
posted October 24, 2007 01:53 PM

They are fine. Sure, Wasp Swarm is a joke most of the time (would be better if they'd cast it on advanced level for some atb reduction), but they still have Cleansing and can dish out a lot of damage for a tier one thanks to their spray attack and no retaliation.
They die easily, but so does pretty much any other tier 1 creature except shieldguards and the ranged ones (provided they are protected).
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ismail222
ismail222


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The Cataclysm
posted October 24, 2007 02:51 PM
Edited by ismail222 at 14:55, 24 Oct 2007.

o.o that's really wierd that some1 would actually think spirits are underpowered i always thought they were among the best lvl one creatures,with high int,speed and attck they do BIG dmg + at late game the point of their castings isn't wasp swarm anyways but cleanesing can be helpful to remove some spells ^_^,and besides many stacks of sprites are great at creeping and stuff eih?
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


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Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted October 24, 2007 03:29 PM

To be fair I think Sanyu's original point was that "wasp swarm" on the sprite is underpowered.

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