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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: Wog for Heroes -> necropolis thread
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posted January 05, 2007 09:08 PM

Wog for Heroes -> necropolis thread

Hi!  This thread is to argue about the necropolis. I know there are conflicting veiw points.  I suggest talking about it here and leaving the other thread open.  

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posted January 06, 2007 03:04 AM

if we expand one town, we need to expand all of them.  How about replacements instead? For the Necropolis, you can chose between wraiths and death knights (or whatever the hex they are called)

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posted January 08, 2007 12:17 PM
Edited by baklava at 12:18, 08 Jan 2007.

Tough choice... But you'd have to kick the death knights' "deadly strike" to make it balanced...

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posted January 08, 2007 12:44 PM
Edited by Fortress_fan at 12:46, 08 Jan 2007.

You can't cahnge creatures or heroes specials so if you wan't Death Knights, you have to replace Wights which will give them the same specials.

I suggest some hero changes:

Lucretia -> Tamika (Advanced Attack)

Orson -> Starker (Basic Logistics, Raise Archers)

Zoltan -> Gauldoth (Basic Summoning magic, Basic Dark Magic)


Increase Spectral Dragons and Spectres attack. Those are not worth the cost. Wraiths have to stop looking like a disco. I also suggest some name changes:

Level 1: Skeleton - Skeleton Archer

Level 2: Walking Dead - Zombie

Level 3: Mane - Spectre (ghost sounds very ugly)

Level 4: Vampire - Vampire Lord

Level 5: Lich - Demilich (that was their orginal name, sounds better than "archlich" which is petty tedious considering that we got "archmages")

Level 6: Black Knight - Death Knight

Level 7: Bone Dragon - Spectral Dragon
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posted January 08, 2007 12:57 PM
Edited by ZombieLord at 12:58, 08 Jan 2007.

I agree, Archlich is not the best name but DemiLich means 'half-lich'. It won't fit. (the DemiLich in Nwn is just a flying skull, but it really is far more deadly than common liches)

What?!? You want to get rid of the Wights? They are Death itself and must be level 7!

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posted January 08, 2007 01:06 PM
Edited by Fortress_fan at 13:09, 08 Jan 2007.

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I agree, Archlich is not the best name but DemiLich means 'half-lich'. It won't fit. (the DemiLich in Nwn is just a flying skull, but it really is far more deadly than common liches)

What?!? You want to get rid of the Wights? They are Death itself and must be level 7!
A level 7 walker won't be agood thing, they should be neutal.

PowerLich then?

EDIT: I just found something strange, they are "Black Knights" in the game, but their icon looks like peasants.
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posted January 08, 2007 01:10 PM

They should be neutral? Death Knights should remain neutral

What is Colossus? Isn't it a walker?? but you can make Wights fly, they don't have visible "legs", if you know what I mean


But I vote for WIGHTS!!!! for the Death itself (guess why ), never remove them!! those silly Death Knights

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Fortress_fan
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posted January 08, 2007 01:13 PM

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They should be neutral? Death Knights should remain neutral

What is Colossus? Isn't it a walker?? but you can make Wights fly, they don't have visible "legs", if you know what I mean


But I vote for WIGHTS!!!! for the Death itself (guess why ), never remove them!! those silly Death Knights
If Wights should remain, make thier upgrade look like Grim Reapes too, not like a disco. And the upgrade is petty bad, give Wraithes more Attack.
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posted January 08, 2007 01:22 PM
Edited by Fortress_fan at 13:28, 08 Jan 2007.

One thing more: Let Giovanni die, it is very silly to transform a Team Rocket boss to a necromancer. A possible campaign could be Ravens way to become Queen of Heresh and that she make an alliance with the Renegades. Galdouth could appear to, and they could resurrect Sandro from his grave.
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posted January 08, 2007 01:23 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 16:56, 11 Jan 2008.

My idea for the necro creatures:

Lv 1: Skeleton ---> Skeleton Archer

Lv 2: Walking Dead ---> Zombie

Lv 3: Wight ---> Wraith (small creatures, and weaker, than in the standart Heroes 5, + Flyer ability)

Lv 4: Vampire ---> Vampire Lord (cast bloodlust)

Lv 5: Lich ---> Archlich (the lich is Caster too)

Lv 6: Black Knight ---> Death Knight

Lv 7: Bone Dragon ---> Spectral Dragon (+ Incorporeal, not sure here)
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Fortress_fan
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posted January 08, 2007 01:25 PM

Quote:
My idea for the necro creatures:

Lv 1: Skeleton ---> Skeleton Archer

Lv 2: Walking Dead ---> Zombie

Lv 3: Wight ---> Wraith (small creatures, and weaker, than in the standart Heroes 5, + Flyer ability)

Lv 4: Vampire ---> Vampire Lord (cast bloodlust)

Lv 5: Lich ---> Archlich (the lich is Caster too)

Lv 6: Black Knight ---> Death Knight

Lv 7: Bone Dragon ---> Spectral Dragon (+ Incorporeal, not sure here)



The problem is that specials can't get changed for now, so you have to stick with ordinary specials.
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posted January 08, 2007 01:28 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 16:56, 11 Jan 2008.

Quote:
The problem is that specials can't get changed for now, so you have to stick with ordinary specials.



Why, can not? Ofcource they can! (not all)
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Fortress_fan
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posted January 08, 2007 01:31 PM

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Nope Giovanni will not die, but his  father, will raise, and his master too... I have the basic camp. story I'll post my offer later...


What do you think about Gauldoth? IMHO, he is still the only realy "good" necromancer. And don't forget that Vladimir vas freed by the Dark elves.
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Fortress_fan
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posted January 08, 2007 01:34 PM

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Why, can not? Ofcource they can! (not all)

How? I have ben searching, and I still can't find such a script. I have heard from many players around this forum that such things are impossible. This is Heroes V not Europa Universalis II.
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Kronos1000
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posted January 18, 2007 09:20 PM

Editing Heroes is not that hard, here check this out:

and this:

The image is not edited check the h5m file out:
http://files.filefront.com/speciatesterh5m/;6559591;;/fileinfo.html

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KnightDougal
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posted January 19, 2007 03:57 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 16:55, 11 Jan 2008.

I need Godric in futurisch suit (with laser gun instead of Sword and Shield)! And his speicalization shoud be Soulhunter (its effect), but the Spec.'s name shoud be Laser Fighter.
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Kronos1000
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posted January 19, 2007 07:11 PM

Something like this?

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KnightDougal
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posted January 19, 2007 08:21 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 16:55, 11 Jan 2008.

hehehehehehehehe this is good. The only thing left is the laser sabber and the electronic shield
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relentless
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posted January 25, 2007 12:06 PM

All I can add is this:



A Portrait of Ayden!LOL
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posted January 25, 2007 01:57 PM

About the Knights/Wights problem, I have a solution. There is a mod made by Shadow from elrath.com that changes Wights with Knights and the Dragons with Wights. I made a mod to that mod and changed some texts to English and gave Wights some spells. Here it is (hope it helps):

http://elrath.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1465

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