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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Does diplomacy rule?
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bjorn190
bjorn190


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
posted March 01, 2002 02:39 AM

Quote:
DIPLOMACY RULES I ONCE GOT 4000 CERBIE TO JOIN ME


WOHOOOOOO  PAUL U RUELS!!!! OMG Whatta POST!!!

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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted March 01, 2002 09:03 AM

Wow that is amazing getting 4000 of them how did you do it?
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cadavre
cadavre


Adventuring Hero
from time immemorial
posted March 28, 2002 02:32 AM
Edited By: cadavre on 24 Apr 2002

Now people why not to discuss HOMM4 diplomacy? I'm imporessed much with "sharm" ability. Has someone used diplomacy in the game and how does it work?
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Ursula
Ursula


Adventuring Hero
posted April 24, 2002 03:19 PM

Diplomacy and Charm in HoMM 4
realy SUCK
realy UNusefull

I have a hero who has both skill and when i get into battle
sometime it gives me a choice
or do i want the charmed creatures ?
or do i want the diplomatized creatures ?

But its never the whole stack its always a meager few
And maybe its a bug,
but when i get the choice it shows me some pictures of what creatures i get and how many, but when i made the choice, im not getting the amounts i just saw on the choice screen.

And usualy you get a few creatures wich dont fit in youre army anyway, or the stack is too small to replace a stack in my own army

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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted April 24, 2002 03:29 PM

then dont take them on team but put them on ground besides yuor army... when you enter fight and creatures are willing to join... you accept.. and once again you see 2 rows  to put creatures on... leaving them on upper row... you will enter fight without them and joined creatures will stand next to hero after fight!!!

all i know..

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Ursula
Ursula


Adventuring Hero
posted April 24, 2002 03:50 PM

Nod

And then after 15 minutes of gameplay later i decide to dismiss the creatures anyway
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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted April 24, 2002 04:03 PM


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Mr_Shane
Mr_Shane


Adventuring Hero
posted April 24, 2002 06:04 PM

Well, I keep them anyway, you never know when they might come in useful for wasting retaliation or as punchong bags.

Or if you are necropolis, just throw the whole lot of them into the undead transformer and you can get a host of skeletons and ghosts
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andra
andra

Tavern Dweller
posted April 24, 2002 08:21 PM

I just send them to the nearest mine and garrison it, if i can't use them in my army.

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Zud
Zud


Promising
Famous Hero
box worshipper
posted April 24, 2002 09:09 PM

i use the joiners

they are useful to garrison mines and possibly add to my troops.  some i send to nearest castle or bring along for fodder in my next battle. also i use them to pick up stuff that was guarded by the group they came from, hand it to my hero if arts and not waste his movement doin these things or having to split off some of his troops pick up.

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rychenroller
rychenroller


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Supreme Hero
posted April 26, 2002 03:48 AM

I got 652 titans to join on "the mandate of heaven" and thats not even a toss
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cadavre
cadavre


Adventuring Hero
from time immemorial
posted April 30, 2002 03:24 PM
Edited By: cadavre on 4 May 2002

I'm glad you managed to continue my topic. It seems to be very rare - Zud and Titan_888 joined to the discussion! Welcome, veterans! And after Zud's words I insist that diplomacy is alive in Heroes 4. More replies please...  
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DElyMyth
DElyMyth

Tavern Dweller
posted May 04, 2002 10:07 AM

Yesterday I played HoMM4 and had 2 heroes, one with charm and the other with diplomacy...
Sometimes i got to choose, and diplomacy got me more joiners (but I had to pay...).
With charm you don't even have to pay enemies to join you, and I could have 50 Medusas without even producing them, only by carrying them around with me (I love medusas ), and stacking more and more.

The only "problem" is that you'll have a lot of troops you don't use, and you have to move them somewhere, and it takes time

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cadavre
cadavre


Adventuring Hero
from time immemorial
posted May 06, 2002 03:04 PM
Edited By: cadavre on 10 May 2002

Thanks DElyMyth for your reply. And I must confess that now we have two choices, we have to choose between charm and diplomacy. And what we called diplomacy in HOMM3 now is divided to "diplomacy when we have to pay" and "diplomacy when we don't have to pay" called charm. I mean that in HOMM3 we could get joiners for free or not, depending on our fortune in game, so now we have two different skills we can choose between. I mean that now we have to choose which skill to upgrade - to join troops for free and get a few joiners or to pay but get more joiners. Unfortunately, charm is a magical ability and can be easily get only by magic hero(order) and diplomacy now is a might ability which can be easily get only by might hero (order again). Any hero can get both charm and diplomacy, but it's a rare chance for non-order heroes to get them, needless to speak about getting them both.

Please post here your opinions about HOMM4 diplomacy.  
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kenpofourth
kenpofourth


Hired Hero
posted May 10, 2002 07:32 PM

The Diplo Shuffle :)

Yes it's a great skill but on some smaller maps and  depending on the spread of troops ,sometimes it doesn't work out to  a great advantage .
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cadavre
cadavre


Adventuring Hero
from time immemorial
posted May 16, 2002 09:56 PM
Edited By: cadavre on 16 May 2002

Kenpofourth, you're undoubtedly right. You found out another thing we must take to consideration, thank you. This is another side of new diplomatic sharm we got. Both diplomacy and sharm worth much only on large maps, besides it requires for hero to be level 10 or more skilled to learn them seriousely. But still a great plus as you said.

I'll be appretiated if someone post here more.
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TheEverLiving
TheEverLiving


posted May 17, 2002 02:33 AM

Gimme Any Medium (Prolly most played) Map And Ryland And I'll Show Ya Some Serious Diplomacy
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cadavre
cadavre


Adventuring Hero
from time immemorial
posted May 17, 2002 02:57 AM

Ok. Take crimson & clover.
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chunhyangi
chunhyangi

Tavern Dweller
posted May 17, 2002 12:02 PM

it rulez especially on crimson clover with 1min turn it rulz
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