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posted May 13, 2007 12:18 PM |
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It would be nice to attract players,but I'm making this because of me(so selfish ) and the people who share same thoughts as me
Well I think everyone agrees a dwarf faction would be cool.
Are you sure you can't change the look of the castle at all?
If there's a problem with the sky if we shorten it, we can add a different sky in photoshop or something. Then just make a different castle. I'll make an example.
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Ok, here's a rough sketch of what I had in mind:
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posted May 14, 2007 12:33 AM |
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WOW (not Wacraft)  That looks cool,well done 
I've never said it can't be done,dude.Off course it can be done 
Send me full pic of that castle so I could do animation for castle,citadel etc. We could all buildings cloudy like that...
I'm giving you a quality post
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posted May 14, 2007 01:42 AM |
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Baklava can u make the casslte more clearly to math with olds ?
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posted May 14, 2007 10:16 AM |
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Edited by baklava at 10:24, 14 May 2007.
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@Asheron thanks. But you don't need the full pic of the castle, just the sky, so you can fill up the holes after chopping off towers.  For the fort, just cut off the middle tower and towers to the far left and right. For the citadel, leave the middle tower, just remove those to the far left and right. The castle of course has them all.
@T2
If I understood you right, you think it's too cloudy...
The main reason I made it cloudy is that I had to desaturate it completely, plus repair it at a few points, cause it was in fact a picture of a castle under siege. It was all in red color and burning and stuff... After desaturation, I raised the contrast, but it didn't quite work out, so I left it like this. It's not too bad, and as Asheron said, we can cloud the other buildings too...
I don't like the Altar of Wishes though. We should change it, or just desaturate it or replace it's colours so we can say it's some headquarters or runesmith or whatever
I remember someone asking if it would be possible to make an elven swordguard or bladedancer or whatever we agreed to make as their level 1, so here's an idea:
Since the dwarves are moving out, and their cottage always looked to halflingy to me, why not put halflings as the rampart level 1? Like, Halfling - Halfling rogue or Halfling bard or something. They tend to like nature, halflings are well known for being rogues or bards, the cottage suits them, and we wouldn't need to create elves with swords.
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posted May 14, 2007 11:27 PM |
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i have some sad news. im afraid i cant work on this project any more with you guys,thoug i will send some suggestions. i cant find anymore free time to help you,university devoured my time,and i'll need to find a good job soon. i too am leaving WoG modding world.
good luck and stay heavy!
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posted May 15, 2007 05:50 AM |
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... This is some sort of twisted joke, right? 
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posted May 15, 2007 07:09 AM |
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Bad news always come when u dont thinking about it
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baklava
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posted May 15, 2007 10:09 AM |
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Well, what of it.
Kipshaszhzshshz, we'll miss ya...
We gotta move on though.
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posted May 16, 2007 03:20 AM |
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First of all,I'm sorry because of Kip,I know how situation is,I have been working and hardly had time to use toilet properly... Hope you find some time to come back to HC...
I'm making a frame for each creature to super-update master post,here are some suggestions/problems:
*Lvl 4 Haven unit will be :Witch Hunter - Inquisitor (Grand Inquisitor)
*Elves will be lvl 1 unit Sylvan because I don't like the Hobbit idea;it's practical,but I don't like it
*Acolyte (lvl 4 undead unit,there was a mistake in master post about it's lvl) will have an upgrade called Disciple
*Dungeon lvl 2: Cave Wyrm - Shadow Wyrm is gonna be replaced with something else
*Because the Academy is moving,Snow Wisp - Ice Wisp will be replaced with some kind of Mephit
*Engineer IMO should be Dwarven Commander
*Lvl 4 lizardmen unit is gonna be some sort of spellcaster(maybe Sorcerer,dunno)
A quick line-up for the Dwarfs:
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2)Warrior - Hammerer
3)Crossbowman - Arbalester
4)Maybe some kind of golem or Slayer,very pissed Dwarf with slayer spell(from Warhammer)
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6)Ice Giant - Frost Giant
7)Blue Dragon - Azure Dragon(he's gonna be nerfed of course)
Phew,I think I covered it all...
Ah yes @ Baklava,don't worry,every building can be replaced 
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posted May 16, 2007 10:33 AM |
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*Elves will be lvl 1 unit Sylvan because I don't like the Hobbit idea;it's practical,but I don't like it
Quite democratic indeed...
Lineup for the dwarves:
1) Gargoyle - Gargoyle protector
2) Clansman - Chosen Clansman (or Hammerer)
3) Crossbowman - Arbalester
4) Iron Golem - Steel Golem
5) Steam canon? If we're into steam punk and stuff... If not, then Berserker - Slayer... Or perhaps trolls... Or some runesmith dudes...
OR... Is there a way we can make bears?
Options, options... 
Now, as for the rest, don't you think we had more than enough dragons as level seven units? I wouldn't mind, I love dragons, but I know a lot of people would probably prefer Frost Giants as level 7 (since they are quite powerful in mythology). So there's two options:
6) i dunno, something ranged preferrably...
7) Ice giant - Frost giant
6) Ice giant - Frost giant or perhaps Hill Giant - Mountain Giant
7) Blue dragon - Azure dragon
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posted May 16, 2007 10:15 PM |
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Well,lets be democrative then:all in favor of Hobbits (few hands appear),okay and all that are in against them(legions of skeletons raises their hands).Hmmm,okay that concludes it,we dont want Wraith Slaying,Dragon Beating, IMBA looking looking creatures with (oh,noes!) deadly slingshots
As for the line-up,gargoyles here,and in Academy? Also Trolls are in Dungeon(and they don't fit Dwarfs too)
Steam cannon would be nice but all the creatures so far are single units,would this somehow break the game 
Dragons fit as lvl 7 cuz,no there aren't so much Dragons(just Sylvan and Dungeon,you can't count Necropolis here,and we could change them btw).And what's wrong with Dragons anyway?
I think that Ice Giant-Frost Giant as lvl 6(they have their weaker cousins in Stronghold) and Dragons as lvl 7 is quite good.My idea is something like this: Green/Gold Dragon has breath attack and maybe something else,Shadow/Black magic immunity and poison breath(like Rust Dragon) and Blue/Azure casts Frost Circle and freezes opponents.What do you think?
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posted May 16, 2007 11:01 PM |
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Well,lets be democrative then:all in favor of Hobbits (few hands appear),okay and all that are in against them(legions of skeletons raises their hands)
*opens map editor*
*places a hero on the map*
*chews a doghnut*
*double clicks the hero*
*clicks the units menu*
*scrolls to archdevils*
*types 99999 in the number box*
Hobbits, anyone?
(99999 archdevils raises hands)
...Pure democracy.
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(oh,noes!) deadly slingshots
Slings were used a lot throughout the old and middle ages in armies, as they were cheap and rather effective
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As for the line-up,gargoyles here,and in Academy?
We can kick them from the academy... They better fit here anyways
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Also Trolls are in Dungeon(and they don't fit Dwarfs too)
Ok, it was just a suggestion
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Steam cannon would be nice but all the creatures so far are single units,would this somehow break the game
No it wouldn't Like question, like answer
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Dragons fit as lvl 7 cuz,no there aren't so much Dragons(just Sylvan and Dungeon,you can't count Necropolis here,and we could change them btw).And what's wrong with Dragons anyway?
Nothing's wrong with dragons, it's just that people are moaning about how there's a lot of them... Your call. I'm neutral about that matter.
About the dragon idea:
All dragons have breath attack, and magic immunity like until now (black dragons the strongest magic immunity of course). I vote for the following special rules:
Greenies have the rust dragons' poison attack
Blackies get Fear
Azures freeze opponents and have the luck aura (like unicorns)
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posted May 19, 2007 02:15 AM |
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Regarding democracy,I didn't mean to use editor but who cares anyway 
It's kinda lame to me when Dragons have half-magic resistance.That means they're immune to almost all good spells but not to implosion,,berserk & mind reaver Half-resistance is for low-lvl creatures,we should make them totally immune to at least some spells(direct damage immune for example)
I see you wanna give green d. a poison attack It kinda suited black more but okay
But I'm not quite sure for Blue one: Luck Aura? Uni has resistance aura and besides,why should anyone's presence increase chance for critical hit?
btw I planed to make blackies strongest lvl 7 unit,I thought to let you know that + I think that maybe we should decrease population in BoF to give more tactical approach to it,not just "mass my creeps and here we go!" Also it will be a little imbalanced,for example Titan will have a lot more amount of health compared to the other lvl 7 units,stuff like that...
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posted May 19, 2007 11:40 AM |
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I see you wanna give green d. a poison attack It kinda suited black more but okay
Blackies have fire... Besides, green dragons in HV have poison attacks.
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Uni has resistance aura
That's what I meant, it was a typo 
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btw I planed to make blackies strongest lvl 7 unit
Makes sense
But be careful not to make them too overpowered cause then we'd have to cripple their population
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I think that maybe we should decrease population in BoF to give more tactical approach to it,not just "mass my creeps and here we go!"
But... but... but mass my creeps and here we go is the whole POINT of heroes Epic battles and stuff. We could make neutrals tougher or something so that XP grinding is a bit harder though. And make heroes more powerful per level too... Carnage 
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Also it will be a little imbalanced,for example Titan will have a lot more amount of health compared to the other lvl 7 units
Why titans? Titans are ranged. That's their advantage. Add them a bunch of HP and I really don't see how you can make black dragons stronger than them
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posted May 21, 2007 12:34 AM |
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I thought you said were not gonna look upon H5 Just kidding,in D&D (and Disciples) Blackies are poisonous but this way is fine too
Massing creeps is good,but not in a way "My 100 Seraphs will kill your 90 Blackies!" Call me a n00b,but I prefer long games,and I had such situations...btw epic is 2-3 angels vs. army, not army of angels vs. army of titans
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Why titans? Titans are ranged. That's their advantage. Add them a bunch of HP and I really don't see how you can make black dragons stronger than them
You did not get my point.Titan should have a lot of health,so as dragon, human unit will have less HP but more defense,Inferno unit will have more damage & Hp than Haven,but Haven will have more defense and perhaps buffers...My goal is to create really interesting factions that will differ one from another,and to give them unique style of playing...
Hope I explained it well
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posted May 21, 2007 02:42 PM |
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Massing creeps is good,but not in a way "My 100 Seraphs will kill your 90 Blackies!" Call me a n00b,but I prefer long games,and I had such situations...
Yeah, ok, that's icky... But then we should lower the growth of just level 6 and 7 units (for example, one per two weeks for level 7s and two per week for level 6s) but make them more powerful than they are now. Low level units should remain the same - really REALLY numerous crap. So that epic battles include like thousands of them but a maximum of about 10 level 7s and 20-25 level 6s...
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posted May 21, 2007 06:58 PM |
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imho it would be nice to lower growth of levels from 2nd or 3rd =) We would care more for every creature (maybe except 1 and 2 lvls) and because of that,game should be really much more interesting.
It wouldn't be so schematic : get big income while building up towns,mass nice army,attack and win every battle without a blink of an eye...
And even on impossible only begginning is more difficult,later when You get resources,monsters aren't so important like few weeks ago...
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posted May 24, 2007 04:23 AM |
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guyz i no this is kinda rude of me and stuff, but u guyz ahve rlly cool ideas i think, and i agree with u (i do however rarely disagree XD) ne wayz can u give me brief overall succint summary on the things u guyz managed to come up with so far?
Hehe to be honest despite how big of a Homm III fan i am, i never got to get the expansions, ima download all of em and WoG as well XD! (in the weekend that is)
By Zielevitz: You should speak proper english, not like "cuz i's gr8!!"
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posted May 25, 2007 05:57 PM |
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@spointz2020
The master post is on page 8... If I understood you right
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posted May 26, 2007 12:29 AM |
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Sorry for my absence,I'm busy with creatures...
Master Post is currently on page 8,but it will be moved to page 1
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