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baklava
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posted June 21, 2007 02:33 PM |
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Aren't automatons something like golems? I thought you don't like similar creatures idea Who's stronger/bigger btw? automatons or golems?
Automatoi or Automatons (whatever you prefer) have swords and look a bit like Greek warriors (with helmets and perhaps armour, when upgraded). Golems in H3 are just boxers... But they're harder to kill and have magic resistance. I thought we might put golems in the dwarf faction and make gargoyles the Tower grail creature...
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Not bad,but where would we put them? Army has 7 slots and all creatures are usefull now...
Dungeon with the creature portal has 8 slots available... I thought it's possible to implement that in all factions, just mod it so that you can recruit one more creature.
The tough guardian idea is ok too, but it also reminds me of Warlords IV
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SCHOOL YEAR OVER!!! HELL YEAH!!!
'Neways, had some free time this afternoon so I did a little artwork...
A Spirit Warder facing off a Possessed... Just the way I see them, of course. Everything is subject to change (behemoths in heroes 3 were supposed to be scorpions for chrissakes  ). Not much but hopefully it'll cause a bit more motivation 
I'll probably make some more, each representing different creatures from BoF and stuff... It could even turn out nicely. It'll also be useful for the website we're going to make (we've got to have a website)
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posted June 23, 2007 04:18 AM |
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Cool concept art, Bak.
Hope you guys are doing ok, just give me a yell if you need me.
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posted June 24, 2007 03:23 AM |
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Haha,I like your picture,although Spirit Warder shouldn't look like genie (pretty please )
Hell,you did inspired me thanks,dude 
Here's the frame for Witch-Hunter I did yesterday,opinions?
I'm stuck with bloody angel,I'm trying to make him cool 
And I MUST recolor regular Griffin,that green color looks so stupid...
@Baklava: I'm still waiting for those ideas,btw 
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posted June 24, 2007 08:23 AM |
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Nice work Baklava, that looks really good
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posted June 26, 2007 06:48 AM |
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Sorry Asheron , i try but i cant make anim . SOrry cos i have too little skill
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posted June 26, 2007 08:26 AM |
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Ash, the witch hunter looks awesome
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baklava
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posted June 26, 2007 03:23 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 15:26, 26 Jun 2007.
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The witch hunter rocks... Perhaps if his hat's top was a little different, but never mind. It's good.
Maybe a bit different sword too... If you could give him a pistol I'd be grateful for life...
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Haha,I like your picture,although Spirit Warder shouldn't look like genie (pretty please
1) It doesn't look like genies, genies had a whirlwind for legs, this guy just has a wormlike bit of smoke
2) Why not? It fits them plus it's easy to make...
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@Baklava: I'm still waiting for those ideas,btw
What ideas? What do you mean? Something specific? I forgot...
Thnx to all the people that liked the artwork, I have some more in stock
Here's an acolyte raising stuff in a local graveyard...
And this one is a classic; a Seraphim charging against a... Balrog? Or a new version of pit lord? You decide...
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Sorry Asheron , i try but i cant make anim . SOrry cos i have too little skill
Dude, relax You'll get better in time. And it's not like we're a fanatical sect around here Don't appologize
Btw Asheron did you receive my emails? Perhaps there's something wrong with my email site, I get emails from you but you don't seem to receive the replies...
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posted June 27, 2007 12:05 AM |
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Edited by Asheron at 00:21, 27 Jun 2007.
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Perhaps if his hat's top was a little different, but never mind.
Different like what? Say it now,while I can change it.And what kinda sword you need? I think this one is fine. As for the gun...
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1) It doesn't look like genies, genies had a whirlwind for legs, this guy just has a wormlike bit of smoke
2) Why not? It fits them plus it's easy to make...
I imagined it as full-armor Bad-A$$,that's way I used name Armor Lord 
Ideas for creatures,dude...Al si zaboravan And I received all your mail,I think
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Sorry Asheron , i try but i cant make anim . SOrry cos i have too little skill
WHAT??? I WILL SENTENCE YOU TO THE ETERNAL SUFFERING OF LISTENING COUNTRY MUSIC FOREVER just kidding,no biggie...I like it when I do it my way
MASTER POST IS UPDATED AND MOVED TO PAGE 1
More will be posted,QP+ for me
EDIT: Oh yeah,Baklava,you didn't finish those chants...Get to work
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baklava
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posted June 27, 2007 12:46 AM |
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Edited by baklava at 15:26, 27 Jun 2007.
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Different like what?
With perhaps a bit sharper top, which is more bent backwards than forwards (not the entire hat, just that top part)... You know, like the one from adventure quest
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And what kinda sword you need?
Well this one is too oriental for a witch hunter... An ordinary longsword would be fine or just the type of sword unupgraded angels have... I don't know. Don't know how it would look.
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I imagined it as full-armor Bad-A$$,that's way I used name Armor Lord
But that way they'd be too similar to Crusaders...
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Ideas for creatures,dude...
Ah.
Ok... I'll do that tomorrow, it's 00:43 right now... I don't even know what the hell I'm doing here at this time...
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EDIT: Oh yeah,Baklava,you didn't finish those chants...Get to work
Oh GODDAMNIT... I knew I forgot something (other than those 450 other things...)
Like I said, I'll get onto it tomorrow. It would help if you gave me the list of spells remaining to make the chants for (with both new and old names preferrably)
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Alright, I'm feeling industrious today
Vampires and Acolytes should be swapped (vamps lvl 5, acolytes lvl 4) cause it doesn't make sense this way (some necro beginners stronger than vamps? )
Academy - lvl 3: Wisp - Eldritch wisp. We can't keep gargoyles, they're with the dwarves now...
What about, for the Castle - Griffin RIDERS?
Dungeon - lvl 2: Shadow elf - Dark elf
Academy commander - Alchemist
Dwarf town's name would be Battlement.
Dwarven might hero: Clanlord (each of them is a leader of a clan)
There's a buggy thing: there's the Special ability: gains 20% more experience than the main hero. in addition, summons a stack of automatons at the beginning of each battle, number depends on the engineer's level) sign, with a question mark above it, and down below there's the Engineer sign... Fix that; just merge them. Engineer has the special ability that you described.
Btw the Warlord advanced class is underpowered... Give him that weapons ability plus 5 attack and defence permanently.
Hey, how about we make two-hand weapons? Like, weapons which if you wear you can't wear a shield. I mean it's kinda unusual to see an 80-year old mage wielding an ogre club in one hand and some huge dragon shield in the other... So Warlords would also have the ability to wear two handed weapons as if they were one handed.
Is that possible to mod?
Chants...
Deflect Missile
“Help us, light winds
in this harsh day
drive foe’s arrows
in the wrong way”
Bless
“Wise and fair immortal gods
we approach our foes’ nest
our troops will gain new courage
if they are but simply blessed”
Shield
“In your name, Lord,
swords we wield
we merely need
your hand’s shield”
Stone Skin
“Mighty earth god,
help my kin
bless my soldiers
with stone skin”
Precision
“God of wind
I’ve brought decision
I plead you, grant
my troops precision”
Cure
“For You, Saviour,
our blood’s spilling
we just ask you
grant us healing”
Wards
“Upper powers,
don’t reject me,
and from death spells/life spells/chaos/spirits
please protect me”
There's too many spells...
Btw I've modified some creature looks a bit; just so that they're more crusadery... More red colour and stuff. Worked in heroes V Besides, the key to our project is that everything's at least a bit different from the ordinary H3.
Here's how I did it, so that you can make all the frames if you want (I'm frankly too lazy for that ) :
pikeman: basically just change the following colours to those I wrote on the right:
blue (limbs) R14-G30-B81 -> R102-G0-B16
gray (tunic) R165-G159-B169 -> R188-G188-B188
halberdier: as far as I remember on this one, first I selected the logo on his shirt and changed the colour to red, then selected the blue colour on his tunic and maxed out the brightness to that it turned white with a red logo; finally I just drew bits that turned out bad (the arm for example looked like it was merged with the body so I drew the boundary with the pencil tool and blurred it a bit after that) and voila.
archer: quite simple, yes?
marksman: see above
man-at-arms: first, do the classic blue-to-red conversion. then brighten his skin up (more or less just turn it from skin-colour to white). then, using the pencil and blur tools, make his arm look less naked and more like there's a white tunic over it. finally, remove that senseless WW1 spike off his helmet, perhaps expand the helmet a bit to the right (add the edge, you know...) and that's it.
And here are the examples:
    
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posted June 27, 2007 05:06 PM |
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Nice ones, but now the Halberdier looks more like a level 2-3 or evel 4 creature than level 1... still, like it better than the old one
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posted June 28, 2007 01:43 AM |
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Vampires and Acolytes should be swapped (vamps lvl 5, acolytes lvl 4) cause it doesn't make sense this way (some necro beginners stronger than vamps? )
I'll fix that
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Academy - lvl 3: Wisp - Eldritch wisp. We can't keep gargoyles, they're with the dwarves now...
Why not? Changed...
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What about, for the Castle - Griffin RIDERS?
I proposed that a while ago,but they had to be lvl 6 then...I think it's good like this
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Dungeon - lvl 2: Shadow elf - Dark elf
Just one elf? Only if we put at least two - three of them...
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Academy commander - Alchemist
Dwarf town's name would be Battlement.
Dwarven might hero: Clanlord (each of them is a leader of a clan)
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There's a buggy thing: there's the Special ability: gains 20% more experience than the main hero. in addition, summons a stack of automatons at the beginning of each battle, number depends on the engineer's level) sign, with a question mark above it, and down below there's the Engineer sign... Fix that; just merge them. Engineer has the special ability that you described.
I din't get this 
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Btw the Warlord advanced class is underpowered... Give him that weapons ability plus 5 attack and defence permanently.
Hey, how about we make two-hand weapons? Like, weapons which if you wear you can't wear a shield. I mean it's kinda unusual to see an 80-year old mage wielding an ogre club in one hand and some huge dragon shield in the other... So Warlords would also have the ability to wear two handed weapons as if they were one handed.
Is that possible to mod?
Good idea,we'll see...
Just one question:why red? Whats wrong with blue? I'm mean,I like red color,but whats the deal? Aren't demons gonna be red & stuff? Just asking,no offense
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posted June 28, 2007 04:00 PM |
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Heroes II Castle have some red one , that is  i like red too
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baklava
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posted June 28, 2007 05:07 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 17:09, 28 Jun 2007.
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Nice ones, but now the Halberdier looks more like a level 2-3 or evel 4 creature than level 1...
Well centaur captains look tougher than they are too... And nobody minds
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Why not?
Cuz it sux
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I proposed that a while ago,but they had to be lvl 6 then...I think it's good like this
K... But we have to make them look cooler then
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Just one elf? Only if we put at least two - three of them...
No... We'll get the HV syndrome... Well ok, we COULD put more of them but I don't know...
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I din't get this
sigh...
Just put "engineer" sign above the mentioned description...
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Just one question:why red? Whats wrong with blue? I'm mean,I like red color,but whats the deal? Aren't demons gonna be red & stuff? Just asking,no offense
Cause crusaders are evil. And commies are evil too. Hence, red
j/k, I just followed the HV example... Plus it looks cooler (plus crusaders wore tunics that were white with red crosses and stuff...).
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posted June 29, 2007 05:02 PM |
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@Baklava
Can u post u halberdier with GIF format ? I have problem with JPEG format
U creatures make me miss my H2 , this game make me come to Heroes series even i played H1 before
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baklava
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posted June 29, 2007 05:18 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 17:19, 29 Jun 2007.
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Can u post u halberdier with GIF format ?
Sure. The quality was lowered a bit in the conversion process, but this is basically it:
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posted June 29, 2007 05:32 PM |
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Oh thanks u
GIF file have many creatures then not good at JPEG , oh my god . But still need to thanks u again
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posted June 29, 2007 11:19 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 23:26, 29 Jun 2007.
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Oh thanks u
GIF file have many creatures then not good at JPEG , oh my god . But still need to thanks u again
No problem...
Though I didn't quite understand the second part
Here's more - this time I'll post them only as a gif cause the difference is not too big (though they still look better in the jpeg):
Footman and griffins...
Instructions: (as far as I remember what I did I believe in the artistic capabilities of you guys )
footman:
blue (tunic) to red
gold (armor) to red (a bit different)
brighten up a little
remove the thingy on his head
remove the spikes on his shoulder pads
griffin:
brighten it up
experiment with contrast and colour replacing a bit if that's not it
use the 'burn' tool to darken the inner side of the wings
imperial griffin:
brighten up, raise contrast (for about 35-40 each)
replace leg colour (brown) with dark red but with lower saturation
change his eyes from green to blue
I used Adobe Photoshop CS2 as always, but I'm sure there are other programs this can be done with.
I'm trying to make these creatures as easy to make as possible, so that you guys can spend as little time as possible animating them.
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It just occured to me, the Inquisitors could use a neck
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posted July 02, 2007 03:13 AM |
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I was thinking about red haven and,I don't know,It's not like I'm against it,just I find blue is good...I'll have to think about it more...I'll probably use red but
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It just occured to me, the Inquisitors could use a neck
I'll fix that...
I'm tired now,I'll post some news tomorrow...
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posted July 02, 2007 03:31 AM |
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I hate Caslte always blue and blue , i think some red may be good . Not bad at all , Baklava. I wait for some real red creatures finish
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posted July 02, 2007 12:08 PM |
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ok,rewiewed the master post. everything looks COOL! ok,i think i can make some frames,i think i'll try after the work.
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