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zamfir
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posted June 12, 2010 12:04 PM
Edited by zamfir at 12:07, 12 Jun 2010.

What is there to like about H5 characters? Yes, there are some you don't hate, but that's about it.
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Lexxan
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posted June 12, 2010 01:46 PM

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What is there to like about H5 characters? Yes, there are some you don't hate, but that's about it.


THIS. Every single H5 character, with the exception of Agraelag, Zehir and Biara is hateful.

@ Xerox: I hate Isafail. I HATE HATE HATE her. Second worst Computer Game Protagonist of ALL time.

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Elvin
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posted June 12, 2010 03:42 PM

You mean there's worse out there..?
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Lexxan
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posted June 16, 2010 09:49 AM

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You mean there's worse out there..?


Arthas.

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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted June 16, 2010 10:11 AM

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You mean there's worse out there..?


Arthas.

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Elvin
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posted June 16, 2010 01:05 PM

He didn't quite turn out what I expected
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Lexxan
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posted June 16, 2010 01:29 PM

I don't really care about him in Undead form. It's the pre-Frostmourne Arthas that I LOATHE with a passion more ardent than a thousant suns. In addition to this he's insufferably BORING as a character.

He's just like Isafail, but in fact happens to be an even more Entitled douchebag, and having him as a protagonist in WC3's first campaign was an absolute turn-off. Unlike Isafail, you could just TELL this guy was going to ruin it all.

Arthas: "This town must be burned ot the ground!"
Uther: "But that's evil!"
Jaina: "Eww, that's gross, Arthas.  I Guess our showmance it over." *vanishes*
Arthas: "Now look what you've done, Uther!"
Uther: "Arthas, don-"
Arthas: "I will have my revenge!"
Uther: "Revenge for what? Besides, Revenge isn't the paladin's way-"
Arthas: "Oh, go F*** yourself, old crow." *torches town* >_<

and later it even gets worse:

Arthas: "Wow, Look Muradin, cool shiny sword."
Muradin: *holds him back* "Don't take that, it's cursed."
Arthas: "Back off me, Lard@$$ , I saw it first"
*Muradin gets impaled by a shard of crystal*
Arthas: "Oooh, Shiny ones" ^_^
Demon Lord: "Haha, Kudos for whiping out your entire army, dweeb"

>_<


He's a bit more bearable as a Death Knight, because in this form he's sarcastic, at least. Still absolutely horrid tho.


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frostwolf
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posted June 16, 2010 06:13 PM

You know I've just recently finished Ghost Hunter for the ps2 and I have to say Hawksmoore, the bad guy, is just one of the best characters ever. A sophisticated British lord from the middle ages, quotes from Shakespeare, loves drama literature, speaks the best damn English in the world and is incidentally come back from the dead and wants to be reborn. But no, he is not inherently evil, he was betrayed and assassinated. He's not a victim either, since he just figured out he was pretty evil to begin with, the whole betrayal and death thing just brought it out.


If not, I can always go for Baraka. Huge teeth and blades stickin' out of your arms? Gotta love it.  
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xerox
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posted June 18, 2010 03:14 AM

Well, it did not really matter what they did in Stratholme. They had two options because it was already to late and the plague had already spread among a lot of the citizens.

1. Burn the city to the ground and kill all citizens within it.
2. Just clear out the Scourge while the rest of the city would have become zombies anyway.

Either way would have been the Scourges victories and in WoW (before Cataclysm), Stratholme is 50% controlled by the Scourge and 50% by the zealous Scarlet Crusade.

I think Arthas did the right thing there, but it was such a huge mistake to go to the Scourges homeland Northrend just like that and I think Jaina and co realized he was being fooled.

Though Arthas was an ass with Frostmourne. He did not even care about Muradin even though it in WoW turns out Muradin survived but passed out for a long time (I know, I think its lame too, makes Arthas look more weaker).

But if the Scourge did not exist, the Horde and the Alliance would never have become "friends" if the Horde would even have been formed since Medivh foresaw the fall of Lordaeron by the Scourge and not the Burning Legion. But I do not think the Burning Legion would have attacked Azeroth without the Scourge either. They wanted to be sure that they did not fail as they did majorly 10000 years ago.
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Lexxan
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posted June 18, 2010 01:20 PM

Christ, Xerox, does it matter? Arthas still is an entitled, annoying D-bag regardless. HATE <////333
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Cepheus
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posted June 18, 2010 02:14 PM

Hey Xerox, I got in touch with Metzen looking for a commemorative plaque to mourn the tragic demise of Warcraft's storytelling, here's the initial draft:

"And lo, the legendary Fried Cheese Sandwich Guild prevailed against Arthas atop Icecrown, their 900,000-man raid successfully overcoming zillions of undead warriors and contrived boss NPCs, abetted by the grand Muradin retcon and a zillion vengeful ghosts (completely unheard of until now). Thus unnecessarily fell the Lord of the North, inexplicably caressed by his father's spectre, wiping from memory the last fragment of Warcraft III's half-decent storyline in one fell, embarrassing swoop. All hail the new, Olympic Torch-headed Lich King."
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xerox
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posted June 18, 2010 02:14 PM

Sylvanas will always be by far my favorite Warcraft character anyway. And I really like the Forsaken race.
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Elvin
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posted June 18, 2010 03:26 PM

I love you cepheus.
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xerox
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posted June 18, 2010 04:15 PM

In the Warcraft lore, Champions of the Argent Tournament sneaked into Icecrown Citadel to kill Arthas since it would be foolish to send loads of untrained soldiers that would only be raised as undead.
And a raid in WoW is either 10 or 25 players.
Muradin was not really a retcon since it was never stated but just asumed that he was dead, but yeah it was lame to bring him back and I did not see the point though he is becoming one of the three leaders of the Dwarves in Cataclysm.
When Tirion shattered Frostmourne after the Lich King fight the souls of it are released and overwhelm him. Terenas spirit is also released though it is speculated that Terenas was just an illusion that is actually Ner'zhul and Ner'zhul found a new host in Bolvar since the old Scourge failed.

Bolvar Fordragon isn't a completly random character. He has been a character since WoW was released. First as the temporary regent of Stormwind and then he led the Alliance forces in Northrend before he fell at the first failed assault on Icecrown and was then incinerated by red dragonfire and was then captured by the Lich King who tried to turn him into a Death knight (but failed).
As there always had to be a Lich King to keep the Scourge in control, Bolvar was the best choice. The Scourge is now neutral or even an ally. Perhaps Blizzard will steal Star Wars Clone army plot and make the Alliance use Bolvars Scourge against the Horde and then the Scourge turns against them and it turns out Bolvar is controlled by Ner'zhul.
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Cepheus
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posted June 18, 2010 04:33 PM

But these details and arguments aren't my (our?) main point. A major problem with Warcraft's characters since 2004 is that not a single twist in the storyline can evoke any emotion or a sense of finality amongst casual observers at least, because events like deaths can't actually be trusted - and when real deaths do occur, they're absolutely lame. Next thing we know it'll turn out Kael's head glued itself back to his shoulders from its premature grave yet again, or maybe everyone really killed a fake Arthas and the real one's been secretly chillin' on Xoroth as a catalyst for expansion pack 28.
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xerox
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posted June 18, 2010 05:48 PM

Yeah, I agree its lame that some characters return all the time (Kel'thuzad even though he is a lich, Anub'arak, Kael'thas etc). And I do not get why Blizzard does it either. Ok, I am fine with Kel'thuzad because it was actually explained WHY he returned in WotLK.
Kael'thas was just a joke character. Why couldn't they just have used some other Blood elf that served Kil'jaedan instead of reusing him...
They could easily have used the not used blood elf leader Rommath instead of ressurecting a lame version of Kael'thas.
And in WotLK Blizzard wasted Anub'arak in the shortest 5-man dungeon in the entire game at that time and then without any explaination, "Ice Anub'arak" returns in a raid two patches later - completly random. Here Blizzard could easily have used some random Crypt Lord for the 5-man.

And like 99% of the characters in the Warcraft universe are "evil" because something tragic happened to them. Sargeras became depressed, you know Arthas, almost all Scourge characters were enslaved by the Lich King etc. There are few evil characters who did not have a tragic background in the Warcraft universe. Suprsingly, Kael'thas is not one of these but turned "evil" just because he wanted to feed off his peoples addiction, wanted power for himself and wanted the Blood elf race to rule Azeroth together with the Burning Legion.

And Blizzard is not changing this. In Cataclysm, several presumed dead characters are returning such as Ragnaros, Nefarian, Onyxia and perhaps even C'thun though fortunaly all these have an explaination (elemental lord, black dragonflight are known for their experiments and old gods can't really die).
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Neekerisanni
Neekerisanni

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posted June 18, 2010 08:11 PM

Ansem, the Seeker of Darkness from Kingdom Hearts. In my opinion, he is the sexiest villain in existence. <3
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted June 18, 2010 08:24 PM
Edited by JoonasTo at 20:24, 18 Jun 2010.


BUAHHAHAHHAAAA!
Man what a nickname.

Btw, not many finns around here anymore. I think you might be the first finnish chick here.

Welcome.
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ohforfsake
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posted June 18, 2010 08:30 PM
Edited by ohforfsake at 20:51, 18 Jun 2010.

So yeah... welcome new finnish girl!
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted June 18, 2010 08:32 PM

Google translate rules.

But you know off, that's still against the rules.
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