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Setitetart
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posted July 12, 2007 04:23 AM |
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All about vices...
All about Vices:
I am sitting here waiting for my computer recovery discs to be beautified and verified.
I am smoking a cigarette and having a cup of coffee.
Two of my biggest vices next to sex and good feelings.
I have been told by a few people now that I have what is called an “addictive personality”.
Basically, if it feels good, I like it and can easily become addicted.
Well duh.
If having ½ of my father’s genes has anything to do with that I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised.
Understand that my mother is prude personified; she has a few vices, yes. But has NOTHING on my father’s feel good traits.
So okay, I have at least half a chance to be naturally predisposed to all kinds of reckless behavior thanks to my dad and all of these years I have managed to keep my vices down to a low roar.
Thanks in part to the knowledge that my dad went overboard for everyone on planet Earth.
My first cigarette was a Pall Mall straight around 9 years old, funny, same time I started feeling myself up. Also my first encounter with seeing pot thanks to an adventurous babysitter.
She gave me the cigarette. Let me try it. I didn’t cough or hack.
Nothing really.
Matter of fact, I liked the rush it gave me.
But I didn’t pick up the habit then. Maybe 6 or 7 years later.
I don’t know what it was that made me buy that first pack of Marlboro Reds.
Nat and I split the pack and smoked walking to school.
Back then it was our daily ritual. Walk, smoke, discuss the day and then do it again after school.
I didn’t like Reds, something about the flavor of them. And yet I still enjoyed smoking. So I bought Camels.
I have been with Camels longer than all of my relationships combined. They calm me, bide my time, don’t talk back and don’t bother me with a pissy pants diatribe if I happen to smoke another brand or don;t pay them enough attention.
I often joke that if I were to quit, I would run around throttling people on a daily basis. But really I don’t believe that. I am sure I could find plenty to occupy myself.
So. Why do I really DO it then?
All the literature out there says it’s bad, that I am slowly killing myself. I even hear the occasional lecture about how I am (was) in the medical field and therefore should know better.
Eh.
First off, I enjoy smoking. Immensely.
I love the different flavors and delight in my Camel Exotics, Sampoerna’s, and Spring waters. I especially like my cigarettes on the thicker side and therefore LOVE my WIDES.
Secondly, most, if not all of the literature out there (At least in the United States) on smoking is complete and utter crap. The FDA findings were thrown out of the Supreme Court deemed inconsistent and insignificant. And yet, all these non-smoker freaks rally around that very same literature (even though it was thrown out) and puke out little nuggets at you to try and “save” you.
Thirdly, yeah…I WAS in the medical field. I have seen all the pictures, read all the FDA crap and anything else I could get my hands on, heard ALL the regurgitated nuggets and lectures.
But I am very inclined to agree with Denis Leary.
The diaper years…need I say more?
Medically speaking, I am extremely fit for a person accused of abusing herself.
For folks that have never been slapped in the face with Denis Leary’s “No Cure for Cancer”, I recommend it highly and Denis does a great job of summing up my thoughts precisely.
Understand that I have no want, need, or desire to live to be 100. If I do, oh well YAY for me. I might get a card from the President noting my astounding will to live and he doesn’t even sign the card. Believe me I have seen quite a few of these coveted cards.
Restrain me. Please? LOL
I can really do without my children having to put depends on me or some under qualified medical worker who could give 2 craps about me.
Having worked in facilities only cements my ideals.
Bottom line, I LOVE to smoke and will do it regardless.
When I am good and ready to stop, I will. On my own terms, with my own decisions well in hand.
Could I stop right now? No. Because I simply don’t want to.
Could I stop smoking? Yes.
In the same vein as vices, I have stopped quite a few things cold.
Because I CAN.
To name a few:
Hash, Pot, Mushrooms, Acid, Mescaline, Meth, Coke, and Opium…just to name a few.
Of al of those things I have done, the worst was Meth without a doubt. An overdose laid me out and the decision to NOT do it anymore was immediate, swift and final.
When my resolve has been put to the test, I have NEVER failed.
Not to say that any of my habits were out of control.
I NEVER smoked a whole pound of weed, or snorted 9 inch rails of Coke or Meth, and could never manage a lot of the other stuff.
But I know a LOT of people who did.
Truth be known, I was then and still am a light weight.
If maybe ½ to ¾ of a pack a day, and an occasional beer make me out of control, then I guess people better hold onto their butts. LOL
So.
Could I quit smoking if I wanted to?
Absolutely.
Quitting smoking would be a cakewalk compared to the other things I have had to stop playing with.
These days my list of vices is few, and all legal.
So.
If I want to smoke have a beer or have sex…
Sue me.
What say you?
What vices do you have now?
What vices have you quit?
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"Do you think we should drive a stake through his heart, just in case?"
~ Peter Lorre to Vincent Price at Bela Lugosi's funeral
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violent_flower
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posted July 12, 2007 05:41 AM |
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Could I quit smoking if I wanted to?
Absolutely.
I call bull**** on that one girl! You could not quit, nor do you have a desire. What is your dad sick with right now as we speak, and what did Dad (Frank) die from and my grandpa Harry? Cigs! This is not an option for you, you have a new issue going on and you still refuse. By the way I spoke to dumb *** and he said that he wants to quit if you would do it with him.
Trust me after all this time I know you, you will not be holding up any lines at the Nicoderm counter anytime soon, if ever at all.
Much love…
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Setitetart
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posted July 12, 2007 06:16 AM |
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Could I quit smoking if I wanted to?
Absolutely.
I call bull**** on that one girl! You could not quit, nor do you have a desire. What is your dad sick with right now as we speak, and what did Dad (Frank) die from and my grandpa Harry? Cigs! This is not an option for you, you have a new issue going on and you still refuse. By the way I spoke to dumb *** and he said that he wants to quit if you would do it with him.
Trust me after all this time I know you, you will not be holding up any lines at the Nicoderm counter anytime soon, if ever at all.
Much love…
You nailed it right on the head....I do NOT have the desire to quit. Period.
If and when the time ever came that I choose to, on my own, then by all means I would do whatever I needed to do to make that step.
And knowing me, you should know that as well.
BUT.
you didn;t answer the questions pookie pie....come on I know you have a vice or two or three. LOL
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"Do you think we should drive a stake through his heart, just in case?"
~ Peter Lorre to Vincent Price at Bela Lugosi's funeral
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Shai-Hulud
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posted July 12, 2007 02:56 PM |
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In a more .. let's say educational manner is this the subject you are talking about? 
Anyhow.. I know what are you talking about. I have this feeling related to coke( if there is a drug called coke ( don't know) , it's not about it). I mean the real flavour of coke : Pepsi , Coca-Cola you name it.
I just simply love to go at 2:00 AM in the morning wth my brother at a near non-stop shop and buy that bottle of coke that will keep me on in those long gaming session. The taste, the smell , the feeling.
I guess some of the people around you call you crazy. Those with the same type of vice speak with so much passion. Outsiders give you a weird look and say you are just stupid or crazy. Or both.
And maybe it's the placebo effect or something , but I actually believe coke keeps me up more then a coffee. It got something to do with the pleasure I think.
On other things that drivez me crazy are power energizers. That smell shreds me up from a few meters. Every now and then when I walk on the street someone passes by with an open can of power energizer and I already go like :"Me want.. me want... me want" . Of course I don't around scaring people like a zombie for power energizers . Just my thoughts.
I have been trough a few addictions also.
In 11th grade I had this huge addiction over coffee. Once I drank : 1 frappe , 2 ness coffee, 3 over boiled coffees( meaning you boil the coffee many times.. ) and about 1 litre of normal coffee. Then my brain just pop rushed. I was feeling dizzy, my legs and arms VERY VERY WEAK and unwillingly fell on the couch and sat there for about 15 minutes watching the ceiling. Scaring experience. Never will do that ever again. Actually .. After that experience I stopped drinking coffee for like 3 months and afterwards just a coffee in looong studying sessions.
Another summer, beacuse I was hangin' around with some metalhead kids, we just bought alot of beer everyday. If there was a day without some beer it was an awful day  ( this had something to do also with the fact that there were 30 C temperature  ). Was a really fun summer. That passed too though.
Last... about the smoking thing. I just can't get it. Fact is.. I smoked for a year 3 cigs a week or smth ( borrowed from friends). Then stopped this.. And after a few months after I stopped and tried to smoke a half of cigar I actually puked. I simply cannot take it. Everytime I smoke I puke or I am on the verge of doing that. I don't choke, I take it all in my lungs, I smoke the proper way, yes! But I can't deal with it. So .. there I really can't get you. But not blaming you also I just don't get it.
And fact is .. I live with a walking smog. Both brothers smoke aboout 20 cigs a day ( Lucky Strike red or Camel ). They can even go for more if have a bad day!
And all this talk to reach the end. The IRONY OF LIFE! Both my parents don't drink, don't smoke. My dad only got drunk once in his lifetime when he was 17 years old for crise sake. His sons on the otherhand... ohohoho Funny what life reserves us!
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violent_flower
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posted July 12, 2007 04:33 PM |
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Calling me out, well great here we go short and sweet.
My vice is bailing once any situation becomes stable and all warm and fuzzy. My vices are my own insecurities in life, I hold onto those like a cig and a great cup of Seattle coffee.
My vices are my children, they are what allows me to say I can't take care of me or choose a man for myself, because it is all about them. They are the cloud that blurs my vision and at the same time make my journey as clear as can be.
My vices are the sick ***** of the worlds that drain me as there friend, because their misery makes my life seem that much better. So I choose to consume myself with selfcentered, suck the life from me kinda of freinds.
Now that I have stopped that I have two friends that I hold onto and have made it a point to not have anymore. The reason you say? Well you should know why; you try to be nice to someone because your close with their best friend and then they just roll everything over into their court to make you look like the ***.
The things I have quit; great jobs, school, and sometimes life in general. All the things that are good for me.
The bad things that I have quit cigs, to much coffee, and lots of sex as it makes the world appear just too damn content and that is an illusion that I don't want.
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Setitetart
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posted July 15, 2007 05:56 AM |
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In a more .. let's say educational manner is this the subject you are talking about?
YES! Absolutely what I was referring to. Thank you.
**Grins widely**
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"Do you think we should drive a stake through his heart, just in case?"
~ Peter Lorre to Vincent Price at Bela Lugosi's funeral
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Setitetart
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posted July 15, 2007 06:00 AM |
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Calling me out, well great here we go short and sweet.
Would we have it any other way sweets? LOL
No...of course we wouldn't. **grins**
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~ Peter Lorre to Vincent Price at Bela Lugosi's funeral
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muerte
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posted July 15, 2007 11:11 AM |
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You nailed it right on the head....I do NOT have the desire to quit. Period.
If and when the time ever came that I choose to, on my own, then by all means I would do whatever I needed to do to make that step.
And knowing me, you should know that as well.
The most insidious thing about being an addict of whatever vice you have is the ability of that addiction to overide your common sense and delude you into thinking that you control it when the reality is the exact opposite.
Sure you probably could quit, but deep down inside you know that the fight you must undergo to win that battle is a lot harder than a couple of sentences casually typed to a buddy of yours online.
In point of fact, it's the known struggle that lies ahead of the addict that is more likely to suppress quiting the vice then almost any other factor.
That's what gives rise to the old delusional addage, "I could quit when I choose to, I just don't choose to quit, yet!"
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bixie
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posted July 15, 2007 11:41 PM |
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my vices usually involve drink, sex, drugs and fights
my friends go out to parties, I tag along, bring some booze (you usually can't get in without it) and get smashed. i wake up next morning to find them putting pictures of me drunk and fighting on their myspace accounts, to which i reply
"You ****ing **** who will burn in some ****** hell!"
to which they relpy
"Your still hung over"
i agree, and get back into bed.
once there i find who i have been sleeping with. usually my girlfriend goes to bed with me, next morning i wake up to this huge, ugly blob! i think
'what was i doing last night!'
to which she (i think its a she) replies
"come-on love, lets make love again!"
the reply is simple:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edit-by-Lith: eloquent reply, but it stretched the thread
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Setitetart
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posted July 16, 2007 12:54 AM |
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i wake up next morning to find them putting pictures of me drunk and fighting on their myspace accounts
Hahahahahaha....now while I DO have a Myspazz page I don't think that anyone has ever posted pictures of our outings the next day. LOL Much to my relief....HAHAHA But while I love my vices, a good fight I am usually the onlooker or the unfortunate soul trying to break up the said fight, not the one fighting
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In point of fact, it's the known struggle that lies ahead of the addict that is more likely to suppress quiting the vice then almost any other factor.
That is SO very true.....you know its going to be an uphill battle and that in and of itself will squash many a good intention to stop whatever noxious behavior you are indulging in. LOL I could quit with proper motivation the things I do....but so far even my kids are not motivation enough as crappy as that sounds. I am selfish to a degree in saying I WILL have this or that (in my case that would be my smoking habit)....because I feel that I give 110% to everyone else and therefore I should be able to have my one bad vice since I am no longer indulging in anything else...you see what i am saying?
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"Do you think we should drive a stake through his heart, just in case?"
~ Peter Lorre to Vincent Price at Bela Lugosi's funeral
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posted August 23, 2007 08:17 AM |
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted August 23, 2007 11:51 AM |
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That's what people say, 'i could quit if i wanted to'. That's the thing, you don't want to because you're addicted
And I wouldn't call coffee a vice. If it is I cant even get out of bed without having viced (?) once, let alone the rest of the day! 
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antipaladin
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posted August 23, 2007 12:01 PM |
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i have no idea whats vice means,but im just like you,in terms of addiction,if its makes me feel good i will adict to it,as for now im already addicted to sex,coffe and cig
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baklava
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posted August 23, 2007 02:22 PM |
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Ah, vices...
-My mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, aunt, her husband, and more or less 98% of my family smoke. And smoke seriously, about 2, sometimes 3 packs a day.
-Every male from my father's family line was an alcoholic (my father, his father, his father, his father...)
-My grand-grandmother who passed away a few years ago was addicted to everything from alcohol to candy.
-and so on and so forth.
And then they call me an addict cause I play computer games.
I mean, like, wtf. Look at yourself people.
The choice for every addict is quite clear. Give that crap up, find help and re-earn freedom for your organism, or continue to burn yourself and pay money to corporate idiots who feed on your suffering.
Of course, 90% of people choose the second option.  So the main question you should ask yourself here isn't whether vices are ok, whether you're really addicted or just having fun, or whether you enjoy to have yellow teeth and cough all day.
The question every addict that doesn't want to quit should ask him/herself is simply Am I an imbecile or just a whimp?
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is. When you ain't got no
money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted August 23, 2007 02:54 PM |
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I can't understand smoking. It's like sticking your head in a barbeque. It's just not fun. (unless you like that kind of thing)
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antipaladin
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posted August 23, 2007 03:17 PM |
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i know i can quit smoking,but do i really want to? i mean it clams me down,it DOES changes the way people percept me,they look at me as goodytwoshoes becouse i wear glasses (shaded ones but ok) and when they see me smoke they see something mystrees,thats 1,second,it DOES helps me inside the society,for an excuse for converstion,not to mention hitting on girls.
Oh,my grandfather was an alcholic,hes youngest son,my uncle,was an alochlic,so that makes me one too? no i drink sometimes but arent an alocholic,and for my health,i dont really want to live above 50,i mean look at the world it is now? chances are i wont,couse my dad had heart attacks in the last year becouse he is overweight and heavy smoker..
Edit: Reffernce to the smokes of tay:
-Pall Mall: they are not strong,but not week either,i personally started with MM reds. they ware ok enought.
-Camal: prestige,its considerd one of thebest,although i'm not sedified,they are very light imo,even the normal ones.
-Malborow red: Ha,sport smokes,lol,they are strong but expensive,i dont buy them becouse i can buy 2 packs at price of 1.
-I smoked Brodway long coused i had free acess from my father,i would sneak 1 pack per day at age 12,13,14. at 15 i started buying LD's reds and sobrians,LD ware uber cheap back at the day,sobrians are uber strong.
then i passed to Mustang Reds,which i smoke to this day,VERY strong smokes,Cheap,they give me what i need,so im ok.
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roy-algriffin
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posted August 24, 2007 01:47 AM |
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i just have to say that maybe some of your friends now look at you nicely. but when your older youll probably call yourselves fools for it . and even if you dont there will always be people repulsed that you took cigarretes. and noone that will be unahppy that you didnt.
honestly. have you ever considered that someone is telling you the truth ?that its terrible for you and that your not going to like it? have you considered that it doesnt calm you down but that you actually need it not to feel angry?. believe me it isnt easy to rid yourself of the curse but the faster you do it the easier it is and the less youll hate yourself when you notice that the side effects appear.
maybe you dont want to or expect to live to 100 now. but i think that if you ever have children or grandchildren you may yet change your mind.
i dont know what the cure for cancer book is. but if the book is about the title then i can tell you from personal experience that is very much wrong especially if your young. (though you wont like it)
if nothing else consider dropping it for the simple fact its a wasste of money . theres beter ways to achieve pleasure
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