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nickkkk
nickkkk


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Necro fan since 1988
posted July 25, 2007 06:28 AM

I kno this is off topic, but imagine a self making faction, you inplement the creature stats, buildings, racial skills(not necessarly needed) and the program gets the faction out. Of course a prog like that would have 10 gb in space but who cares. Or it would be possible that the prog already has implemented let's say, I don't know, over 300 creatures, and you simply mingle with them in delivering an interesting faction. OH SWEET DREAMS

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Daystar
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posted July 25, 2007 09:11 AM

There are 170 creautes in HV, by the time of ToE.  Or did you mean totaly seperate creatures, with designations about how workable they are as a race, and then types of warriors, spellcasters, and leaders (eg, Landsket, Skirmisher, Sorceror, Enchanter, Jarl, King)
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nickkkk
nickkkk


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Necro fan since 1988
posted July 25, 2007 10:34 AM

a program that builds factions with creatures beside the ones already existing. It would be the biggest breakthrough in the gaming zone. Or Daystar, don't you want a H 5 with, let's say, over 300 creatures!!!!!!!

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nickkkk
nickkkk


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posted July 25, 2007 10:41 AM

I would like Darth Vader as well. More races- that is the main thing I am looking at a game to have.
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sheensher
sheensher


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posted July 25, 2007 11:56 AM

What u think about gorgon from Equilibris:

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Cepheus
Cepheus


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Far-flung Keeper
posted July 25, 2007 12:12 PM

Looks great, I know it's offtopic but do you have a download link for that?

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sheensher
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posted July 25, 2007 01:11 PM
Edited by sheensher at 13:11, 25 Jul 2007.

Sorry, no

Edit: I find that there

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nickkkk
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posted July 25, 2007 05:53 PM

I know that the gorgon in H3 and in Equilibrium was a bull. Don't get me wrong, it was the only creature that meant something in the fortress, alongside the hydra. But like I said , in wikipedia gorgon is similar to medusa. Sincerely I prefer the medusa, but I will see what I can do.
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sheensher
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posted July 25, 2007 06:42 PM

Because according to Roman mithology medusa was a one of gorgons, that bull really, should be called  Demigorgob

I like idea with medusa in Fortess, something as in D&D mod

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Daystar
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posted July 25, 2007 06:46 PM

Besides, the fortess is all reptillian, and the medusae are reptillian.
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sheensher
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posted July 25, 2007 08:26 PM

Quote:
Besides, the fortess is all reptillian, and the medusae are reptillian.

Medusa is a hybryde, half human, half snake

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Xerox
Xerox


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posted July 25, 2007 08:45 PM

Wow, that gorgon looks great.

I also think that the Medusas are more reptilian than humanoid.

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nickkkk
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posted July 27, 2007 08:04 AM
Edited by nickkkk at 08:05, 27 Jul 2007.

Swamp Short Description + the campaigns


     Their role in the Hof and TotE events of the lizard people :
      After all the events in which Queen Isabel took part, and after all the help she could get in defeating Nicolai( which was killed by Findan),Markal and Cyrus, in the second expansion called Tribes of the East she will receive(probably) another help, the orcs, which seem to hate all those who come from Kha Beleth. While Isabel, Zehir, and other Heroes attempt to find Biara and the Dark Messiah, the Sovereign hasn't forgot his plans to conquer the Griffin Empire.Because you know that in the 5th campaign from inferno Tieru told Agrael that the demons killed by Nicolai are still allive in Sheogh( or Kha Beleth, never could make a distinction between the 2 names).
       If all the roads are blocked by Zehir's army, Isabel's army and Arantir's undead hoard, the only way for a demon army to reach the griffin empire is to pass thru the land called "Darnlan". It's inhabitants are the lizardmen, which lived in peace with all the other races, mainly because nobody adventured themselves thru these swamp lands.
       But now they are forced to go to war since the demon hoardes invaded their lands, and they want stop until all the demons will be removed. Plus they will go head to head against their old rivals, the orcs.

So here it goes:

Campaign no.1- First the demons send some scouts ahead to inspect the area and find a suitable location to traverse th marshes. This is the moment when the hero from swamp will appear. His name will be Bron (one of my favourite heroes from H3). He will notice the intrusion and try to annihilate the scouts.

Campaign no.2-In a cinematic after the last battle of Bron, the path behind him will be flooded, so Bron must find another way home, thru the orc regions, their old enemies. He will not have any castle, probably he will pick armies of the swamp faction on the road ( just like the 5th campaign from inferno, when the creatures joined Agrael) in order to survive and reach his goal, returning to his home lands.

Campaign no.3-Bron reaches home and he is noticed that a large army of demons have found a way to traverse the marshes after all. He will have three castles from which to raise an army, therefore destroying the demons.

Campaign no.4-The lizardmen are trying to restore their home lands after the attack of the demons, but now they face another chalenge: the orcs found out about the unannounced "visit" of Bron in their lands and sends Yog to pay a "visit" to the lizardmen. It will be like in the old days, a painful war.

Campaign no.5-While the orc hero from TotE will seek reveange against humans and mages( from waht I can tell since they are neutrals, therefore attacking anything that stands in their way), Bron plans an ultimate attack over the orcs, to decimate their race once and for all, and for the survivors to take their normal stat, that of a slave. He will start the campaign with a large army and will try to conquer the Orc capital.


Swamp abilities + Heroes




four male heroes:
Wystan <-->0-4-1-1
Broghild <-->0-3-2-1
Voy <-->1-1-1-1
Rosic <-->0-2-1-3
two female heroes:
Miranda <-->0-1-2-2
Tiva <-->0-1-2-2


Abilities:
their special ability will be called Marksmanship which helps the swamp creatures on all levels.
Skills : Rangery - increases the radius in which shooters can hit with full strike, 10 % chance of hitting with full strike even the whole battlefield.
         Magic Strike - any army can hit, alongside their special abilities, any magic of the first level, without Eldritch Arrow, this only in the case of archers.
         Magic immunity - the hero can make one of his army more resistant to magic attacks, this includes Mark of the Lizard, when a unit, for example pit lord hits the creature with this mark, it instantly gets petryfied.
Other Abilities:
     Defense - Stone Skin - the creature receives a +3 to it's defense. When expert Defense, it will be Mass Stone Skin.
                 - Water Concealment - when fighting in a combat that has water near, excluding the boat fights, the archer can stay up to 2 rounds in the water, immune to all negative magic. just have to teleport tham into the water or right at the start, in tactics phase.
                 - Grass Concealment - hides a creature from sight when fighting on grass until the hero wishes to dispel it.
     Light Magic - Willpower - give the selected creature +2 attack, +2 damge.
     Leadership - Call of the Swamp - amy swamp creature will join the hero, but only 50 % of the stack.
     Logistics - Steppe Concealment - an improved pathfinding, on the hero movemenat bar will appear the "+" sign like in heroes 3, here the equivalent of 5 steps.
     Attack - Swamp Sharpshooters - it increases the rage of the creature
     Luck - Sulphur Swamps - when picking up sulphur resources, they amout will always be 50 % more than it already is.
     Dark Magic - Swamp Fields - the creatures that step in this 4x4 tile gets a random Dark magic that lasts for 3 turns, the cleansing magic doesn't have no effect.
     Destructive Magic - Steam - the hero can cast a cloud on the battlefield, 4x4 tiles, that hits every creature that is within with a lightening bolt, the normal damage that the lightening bolt does in the spellbook. So I suggest you get expert Destructive Magic and a lot of spell power.
     
So I will put medusa lvl 5 or 6 creature, and should I make it an archer?
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Daystar
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posted July 27, 2007 04:39 PM

Female Heroes are weaker than male ones?  How sexist is that?
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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


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posted July 27, 2007 06:32 PM

The swamp town is awesome,but i hate the gorgons,in h6 hopefully there will be a swamp toen

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sheensher
sheensher


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posted July 27, 2007 07:14 PM

Ok, but u haven`t got any portraits, and any pictures ;(
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SwampLord
SwampLord


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Lord of the Swamp
posted July 27, 2007 07:22 PM

The Lizard Warrior pic you found is a Saurus Warrior from Warhammer. I would suggest having more then one level 7 flyer as well. An alternate Level 7 that follows the tradition of a giant beast could be something like the Basilisk from the second Harry Potter movie(giant snake-type thing) with a different name, of course.
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nickkkk
nickkkk


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Necro fan since 1988
posted July 30, 2007 08:22 AM

Like I've said, the armies are not my work. But the armies I put in the pics, are the ones I would have in mind for the swamp faction. So SwampLord it probably is from the game you mentioned, I don't know.
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nickkkk
nickkkk


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Necro fan since 1988
posted July 30, 2007 08:25 AM
Edited by nickkkk at 08:37, 30 Jul 2007.

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Female Heroes are weaker than male ones?  How sexist is that?

they are experts in magic, and the males have the defense.
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Ok, but u haven`t got any portraits, and any pictures ;(



Well take the portraits from Heroes 3, I told you that I am not good at drawing.
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nickkkk
nickkkk


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Necro fan since 1988
posted July 30, 2007 08:27 AM

none of you told me something about the campaigns. I think that those are pretty interesting.
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