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posted July 23, 2007 01:33 AM |
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Remember that I have not imposed my beliefs on anyone that has not first shoved theirs down my throat first.
As far as Consis being like Jesus, well stop me while I pick myself up off the floor.
Yes, there was the fact that there were young ones on here, but I figured anymore what does it matter, I will not say anything that they won't hear somewhere else.
So again thanks for your comment, and if you truely believe that I have poured my beliefs on someone where it was not warranted, please do share as I would be curious.
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posted July 23, 2007 07:43 AM |
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It seems to me that you refuse to accept anything but a 'right' or 'wrong' answer.
Really where did you read that, in this thread where I presented facts asking a direct question and Shadey could not answer, as any answer would of made him a hypocrite or a liar? Which thread are you referring to Consis. If your going to speak such things please be so inclined to back what you say up with more than peaceful pretty words that sound good to the mods.
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Feelings for example....can not be argued against
Interesting considering that I recently read a rant where you were arguing with Peacemaker about you being a racist when it comes to Obama, among other things. She has her facts straight before she comes at anyone the way she was coming at you, and guess what, you believed in that thread your way was the right way. You argue when it suits you, then you get all apologetic when she starts to make what you say appear, well, REDICULOUS!
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If he says he believes homosexuality is a sin, did you then ask him what he intends to do about it?
Um, NO! Why you may ask yourself, well lets answer that simply. Because we are not you, and do not have to answer things in the same manner that you do in order for it to be the correct way. Not to mention I don’t care what he intends on doing about his judgmental nonChristian ways. Just wanted to say how I felt about it. I don’t have to agree with him or disagree with him in any particular way.
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What gives you & Setitetart the moral authority to tell him what to believe?
If you remember for the hundredth time, he was spreading his moral authority all over everyone, do you recall? If I came on here and said all Christians are sinners because they believe in the missionary position and marring only the opposite sex, what the hell do think you would say or Slim Shadey for that matter. I know he is your Christian pop tart, and we must protect those that hold the same beliefs, but really why do I care if you two want to nuzzle together while reading verses from Psalms? I DON”T!
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It is an ingrained response built into our nature from the time we are teenagers when rebellion is most common. At those young brash ages we learn, as a species, as a common group of suppressed individuals, that ANYONE who attempts to force their will upon us will NEVER succeed!!
BINGO! You finally got one, congrats, a whole box of, *Boy I am Smart* cookies are being delivered to you as we speak. *Check your mailbox today for that, ‘Boy I am Smart’ decoder pen that you always wanted.
Your right Consis and that is why HE NEVER SUCCEEDED! That is why 90% of the people that responded did so in a negative manner. DO YOU GET IT NOW OR SHOULD I SHORTEN UP THE SENTENCES FOR YOU?
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baklava
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posted July 23, 2007 10:30 AM |
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Edited by baklava at 10:41, 23 Jul 2007.
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Yes, there was the fact that there were young ones on here, but I figured anymore what does it matter, I will not say anything that they won't hear somewhere else.
Yea but didn't you figure they might say something? That uhm like they have an opinion they'd express? Not just here, on any forum, you have to be ready for people with all sorts of opinions and all sorts of ways of expressing them...
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and if you truely believe that I have poured my beliefs on someone where it was not warranted, please do share as I would be curious.
Lol nah I said that mostly to see your reaction. 
Just kidding of course. I never say anything without a reason. (MUSHROOM! What?) Well perhaps sometimes.
Shadey has his beliefs and tries to explain them as best he can. Sometimes good, sometimes not so good, never mind really, since he doesn't go to breeding flame threads about those he disagrees with.
On the other side, if:
1) judging a person's complete character by forum posts on a HoMM forum
2) judging it completely negatively without trying to find his viewpoint throughout all this
3) saying how well you have the right and everyone should do it
4) making a dozen senseless flame threads
isn't pouring unwarranted beliefs on someone, then I don't know what is.
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*Boy I am Smart* cookies are being delivered to you as we speak. *Check your mailbox today for that, ‘Boy I am Smart’ decoder pen that you always wanted.
DO YOU GET IT NOW OR SHOULD I SHORTEN UP THE SENTENCES FOR YOU?
Well here's something very lovely and tolerant...
Didn't see Shadey going around saying that to people who basically just advised you to chill out.
PS The art of sarcasm doesn't lie in simple insulting of people who haven't deserved that. True sarcasmeers (what a great word) will never use such unbrushed and open sarcasm publicly, along with losing their nerves and yelling, especially not at friends or good persons. It's the sarcasmeer honour code. Those who disrespect the code most commonly, among the people, get the title of a$$holes or, for more powerful individuals, buttmunches.
I can give you lessons if you want, it's $10 per a 45 minute class.
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posted July 23, 2007 10:37 AM |
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someone QP baklava! this guy has sense!
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posted July 23, 2007 01:44 PM |
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Hermaphrodite in a strictly biological sense normally means capable of self-fertilization or less strictly, capable of producing both male and female gamettes (ie, both eggs and sperm). By this definition, there is no such thing as a "true" human hermaphrodite. What the MDs like to call hermaphrodite would probably be more accurately referred to as something like non-aphrodite or some similarly cruel term.
I'm a firm believer in people being able to define for themselves what they are though. Genders aren't as straightforward as people would like them to be. External genitals, egg or sperm production and even chromosome count don't get it right 100% of the time. And I'm not just talking about people who "feel" like they're the wrong gender. Hormonal imbalances in the womb or traumas, or simply random fluctuations in gene expression can play merry hell with normal development. It's rare, but that doesn't mean non-existent.
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posted July 23, 2007 02:37 PM |
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Live & Let Live!!
Wow!!! I didnt expect to learn about scientific facts and legal precedents when I logged back onto the HOMM community pages. I have to commend VF and Shadey for their committment to this debate but if I was edudicating I would have to say that VF wins due to the strong legal debate she put forward. Although I can see where Shadey is coming from he doesnt put forward as eloquent an argument  . That is just my humble opinion.... keep it up as it is generally quite stimulating for my mind... Cheers!
BTW just wondering if VF happens to be a lawyer or law student or something like that??
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posted July 23, 2007 04:11 PM |
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Law was my first choice but a guy in a robe telling me to sit down or shut up could be bad, for him that is. I would spend more time jail then the people on trial.
Thanks for commenting QP.....
Bak thank you again for your words they will be noted, the fact still remains that I debate my way and you yours, for the sake of my sanity and fun, I will keep it that way...
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along with losing their nerves and yelling,
Actually no I was not yelling, I capitalize things only to make sure that part stands out, much like making something bold. Yes normally capitalizing would mean someone has ruffled you, however in this case it does not. You see I have spent sometime explaining myself, repeating the same thing over and over to just have those that don't either understand English, or want to avoid the truth,PRETEND AS THOUGHT THEY DON'T HEAR ME ... SO I CAPITALIZE, THAT WAY THEY CAN PULL OUT THE PART THAT REALLY MATTERS AND SOAK IN IT FOR AWHILE....SEE HOW IT WORKS..
Much love for you though.....
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posted July 23, 2007 04:25 PM |
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It's rare, but that doesn't mean non-existent.
This is all I have been trying to say, it is rare but does exist.
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posted July 24, 2007 06:40 AM |
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It seems to me that you refuse to accept anything but a 'right' or 'wrong' answer.
Really where did you read that, in this thread where I presented facts asking a direct question and Shadey could not answer, as any answer would of made him a hypocrite or a liar? Which thread are you referring to Consis. If your going to speak such things please be so inclined to back what you say up with more than peaceful pretty words that sound good to the mods.
*snorts* VF darling he said it "seems to him" that you blah blah blah.
LOL
NOT everyone has enough personal honor to be able to answer a direct question nor do they have the ability to be honest enough to ASK a direct question.
Ever play smokes and mirrors...ever met a carney? LMAO
Besides that...I would liike to say that my personal observation and based on what I have personally experienced in my own dealing with Consis is that he isnt a honest confrontation type. Just that simple.
He has got great color to his face and that is all that matters right?
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Feelings for example....can not be argued against
Sure you can't argue how another feels but you CAN think it is sick sad and wrong. *snorts*
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If he says he believes homosexuality is a sin, did you then ask him what he intends to do about it?
OMG seriously are you for real? *laughs*
I can totally see this scene in my head...playing out...
And the more I reread what you said...I just can't help but think...sheltered maybe?
So let me get this straight.
Okay...you think that if someone says something that I think is completely obnoxious, I should then ask that person what they are going to DO about it?
Social skills? LMAO
DO as in what context here? Like actively gay bashing or maybe dragging your local gay from the back of a truck?
THAT kind of DO?
I mean really...please define "do" for me please.
Um, NO! Why you may ask yourself, well lets answer that simply. Because we are not you, and do not have to answer things in the same manner that you do in order for it to be the correct way. Not to mention I don’t care what he intends on doing about his judgmental nonChristian ways. Just wanted to say how I felt about it. I don’t have to agree with him or disagree with him in any particular way.
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What gives you & Setitetart the moral authority to tell him what to believe?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....*choke*.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sounds a touch indignant.
You have obviously never had a perfect stranger tell you with any honesty what they really thought.
Too bad for you.
Either way...I never EVER told anyone WHAT they SHOULD believe.
But I want to know why one human being would treat another so shabbily because of who they love or who they are with.
Seems pretty sad and extremely petty for anyone to base their core emotions and thoughts on something so trivial as someones love interest.
That they would openly bar them from their churches and deny them the joy and love that is god.
It reminds me of pictures of the segregation times here when there were separate fountains, schools, churches...for the whites only and for the blacks only. White restaurants wouldn't serves anyone blacks and if you were a white person found to be in love with someone that was black....the KKK came to burn crosses on your lawn and lynch people.
The things that were being said reminded me of THAT and that is in part what just made me so angry was that basically gays cant marry, adopt kids or attend my church really is discrimination.
As far as biblically...the bible clearly states to love your fellow man. Period.
Not cherry pick your fellow man.
Just saying.
Either way I am not the moral authority, no more than I am the fashion police or miss manners. LOL
If you remember for the hundredth time, he was spreading his moral authority all over everyone, do you recall? If I came on here and said all Christians are sinners because they believe in the missionary position and marring only the opposite sex, what the hell do think you would say or Slim Shadey for that matter. I know he is your Christian pop tart, and we must protect those that hold the same beliefs, but really why do I care if you two want to nuzzle together while reading verses from Psalms? I DON”T!
No no no...what he SAID was christians should only marry christians and men should onnly marry women.
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It is an ingrained response built into our nature from the time we are teenagers when rebellion is most common. At those young brash ages we learn, as a species, as a common group of suppressed individuals, that ANYONE who attempts to force their will upon us will NEVER succeed!!
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as a common group of suppressed individuals
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....speak for yourself honey. LOL
Breathe will you? LOL
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posted July 24, 2007 11:07 AM |
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You see I have spent sometime explaining myself, repeating the same thing over and over to just have those that don't either understand English, or want to avoid the truth,PRETEND AS THOUGHT THEY DON'T HEAR ME ... SO I CAPITALIZE, THAT WAY THEY CAN PULL OUT THE PART THAT REALLY MATTERS AND SOAK IN IT FOR AWHILE....SEE HOW IT WORKS..
Well if someone's ignoring what you said, you might as well make the letters the size of the HOLYWOOD sign, they'll still ignore it... But never mind.
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Much love for you though.....
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Seems pretty sad and extremely petty for anyone to base their core emotions and thoughts on something so trivial as someones love interest.
I agree with you, but... Meh. There have been worse things throughout history. People used to burn each others for saying Earth was round...
Mental progress is a more or less slow process, especially for such an overrated, collectively dumb specie as humans. Reversed from ants - ants don't have minds of their own, but are intelligent as a collective; and humans do have minds of their own, but their senses simply perish in masses. But have some patience, who knows, after different levels of tolerance and rights, mankind might even start respecting nature in the end. If we don't destroy ourselves until then.
Look at how it goes:
1) Butchering and utter disrespect of any people or tribe other than your own
2) Less butchering, more slavery
3) Less slavery, more work in change for protection... still a lot of wars
4) Considering all of your race equal, but still considering other races inferior
5) Fighting against racism
6) A relative stop to racism
7) Fighting against homophobia
8) A relative stop to homophobia
9) Fighting against animal exploitation
10) A relative stop to animal exploitation
11) Fighting against overexploitation of anything living, protecting woodlands etc.
12) A relative stop to that
We're now somewhere between the 7th and 9th step, while we even have a few elements of the 11th. So there is at least a bit of hope, but we still need patience.
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posted July 24, 2007 01:07 PM |
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i dont think were done fighting recism,I also think that you frogot
13:The end of the very world.
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posted July 24, 2007 01:49 PM |
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i doubt that racism will stop until
A) human race dies out
or
B) we have existed for long enough that races are blurred and everyone is a light yellowy-browny color
or whatever comes first
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posted July 24, 2007 01:58 PM |
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TitaniumAlloy...
you forgot the third possibility
we encounter another race... that is sure to make us band together
hard to notice someone's skin tone when "those new guys" come with a tail, horns, three eyes and two hearts
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posted July 24, 2007 02:18 PM |
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damn horny people...
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posted July 24, 2007 03:54 PM |
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i dont think were done fighting recism
None of those things can disappear. That's why I put "relative" in. What I meant is, you no longer have countries which are officially racist, like WW2 Fascist countries or England until the late 20th century
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posted July 24, 2007 04:20 PM |
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Yes Lith encountering another being, this has already happened. Damn government.
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posted July 24, 2007 05:26 PM |
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If that was a conspiracy theory, then...
The appearance of another race most likely would indeed force the world to band together.
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posted July 24, 2007 05:43 PM |
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The appearance of another race most likely would indeed force the world to band together.
Unless it's a peaceful race... Then the humanity would be split between all those who want to conquer them. Remember what happened when America was discovered.
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posted July 24, 2007 06:04 PM |
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Band together,we can all live in pea pods and cuddle..I wish the aliens would come take us for awhile.
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posted July 24, 2007 06:09 PM |
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ST? When would like to go on our next Trip where we spread our moral authority around? I'm up for a road trip!
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