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Consis
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posted August 02, 2007 04:43 PM |
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Significant Childhood Influences
When you were a young person before you left home, who or what contributed to some of the things that influenced you to become the person that you are today? Was it a person? Was it a place? Was it a thing? How did your childhood experience with this 'something' influence you and what sort of relationship did you have with it/him/her? Not all influences are good. Some are terrible and some seem inconsequencial at the time but later prove to be a pivotal moment in the development of the person you are today. Was it someone you looked up to? Was it someone you loved? Was it someone you hated or were jealous of? Was it something sentimental that your mother might have given you? Was it a separation from your sibling at a young age for reasons not understood at the time? Was it somewhere that you visited that left a lasting impression upon your heart and mind? Are you being drawn to it even now? Are your thoughts proned to look back at the loss of a grandparent? Was it a necklace or ring someone gave you for your birthday that stayed with you during newfound love and heart wrenching breakups? Whomever you are today, what was it that happened when you were a child that helped to sculpt the fascinating individual that you have grown into? Was it only a single thing or was it many?
Any thoughts?
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baklava
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posted August 02, 2007 10:01 PM |
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Ooh ooh questions questions!
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When you were a young person before you left home, who or what contributed to some of the things that influenced you to become the person that you are today?
I'm still young, I still haven't left home, and I believe that had a lot of influence on me 
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Was it a person? Was it a place? Was it a thing?
All those three in one - Marilyn Manson 
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How did your childhood experience with this 'something' influence you and what sort of relationship did you have with it/him/her?
It/him/her... The truest way to call Marilyn Manson. Anyways, it influenced me quite well, really. I became interested in his lyrics and started thinking about stuff from different perspectives and such. Rather fun.
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Not all influences are good.
Depends on what's considered a good influence.
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Was it someone you looked up to? Was it someone you loved? Was it someone you hated or were jealous of? Was it something sentimental that your mother might have given you? Was it a separation from your sibling at a young age for reasons not understood at the time? Was it somewhere that you visited that left a lasting impression upon your heart and mind? Are you being drawn to it even now? Are your thoughts proned to look back at the loss of a grandparent? Was it a necklace or ring someone gave you for your birthday that stayed with you during newfound love and heart wrenching breakups?
Nope.
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Whomever you are today, what was it that happened when you were a child that helped to sculpt the fascinating individual that you have grown into? Was it only a single thing or was it many?
Hm. Well, I was born, I guess that helped a lot... Unborn people tend to develop their personalities harder than born ones.
Then, the hyperinflation. You wake up and 50000 dinars are worth 5 dollars, however in the evening 50000 dinars are worth 50 cents, if you're lucky. The next morning 50000 dinars are worth a little less than a dry leaf. Tough. The coolest thing ever is that the largest paper bill during that period was 50 000 000 000 dinars... I don't know what it was worth but it was certainly icky. After it the inflation started wearing off a bit though. Just a bit. That experience gave me a healthy disgust towards economy and money overall.
There's more, much more, but I'm too lazy to type about everything. The problem is that I don't know myself which parts of this post are serious and which aren't. Awkward. 
The only thing I definitely know that made me what I am today is music. It definitely had a HUGE influence over me... Actually, not really. It's more like, some of it totally went with my thoughts, so I'm not sure whether it is a part of me or I am a part of it, but nevertheless, it always helps. Especially guitar. The instrument for saying people's feelings without words. Much like a picture, only with sound instead of colour. Both my exit from this world and the force that keeps me in it. Weird, huh?
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Any thoughts?
No, not really, no. Mostly gibberish with just a few primeses of thinking sometimes.
Now, I answered all the questions, what do I get?
And, most importantly, is it eatable? 
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posted August 02, 2007 11:42 PM |
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When you were a young person before you left home, who or what contributed to some of the things that influenced you to become the person that you are today?
I havent left home and technichly im still young.
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Was it a person? Was it a place? Was it a thing?
It was a person and a thing,a clique of frindes and the politics.
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How did your childhood experience with this 'something' influence you and what sort of relationship did you have with it/him/her?
Some are positive some are negetive.
Most are negetive for ones,positive for other,but im yet to decide,i know on top everything,that it is unchangebull.
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Was it someone you loved?
Yes.
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Are your thoughts proned to look back at the loss of a grandparent?
Eh. Never got to knew my grandfather,the one that was alive untill few years ago. The other one i never knew at all,died before my birth. and my bound with them was never that good..
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homever you are today, what was it that happened when you were a child that helped to sculpt the fascinating individual that you have grown into? Was it only a single thing or was it many?
It was meny. Starting from people,continueing to enviorment,ending with $$$.
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Any thoughts?
My signature,is a small qoute from nitche book:
"the free-thinker should have liberated himself from what was customary,be it successfully or disastrously.he will have truth,or at least the spirit of truth-investigation,on his side;he demands reasons,the others demand faith"
Now i'm not your avrage independent thinker
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Setitetart
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posted August 03, 2007 05:27 AM |
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Was it a person? Was it a place? Was it a thing?
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All those three in one - Marilyn Manson
I have met him, and most of his band. He is one strange dude. LOL
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When you were a young person before you left home, who or what contributed to some of the things that influenced you to become the person that you are today?
I left home early on bad terms and a distinct air of distrust, anger, and extreme disrespect on so many levels. My mother was a huge influence on me but not in good or even productive ways. The few good influences were her strength and bull-headed determination. The need to learn things daily and reading.
My Gramma remains to this day the voice that has shone through and been my voice of reason, of compassion, and the advice that has guided me through some very dark times.
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Was it a person? Was it a place? Was it a thing? How did your childhood experience with this 'something' influence you and what sort of relationship did you have with it/him/her?
The main person influencing my life was and still is my Gramma. Although there are people who inspire me daily, such as my kids.
Cayle and Sky have amazing abilities to humble me and pull me into thier make believe worlds. I think as people age, they lose that ability to play and to imagine and my kids influence me everyday with their brand of magic.
As far as a place, my hometown is where I go to regroup, to reconnect...to think. I spent a lot of time there growing up and it was the last place I felt innocent or safe if that makes any sense.
My relationships with both the people and the place...are good.
Close. LOL
And let me just take this oppotunity Consis darling, to say...you ask a lot of questions.
But I will humor you and answer them. *raises eyebrow*
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Not all influences are good.
No. Really? This is why people get roped up with the wrong people and basically fall off the wagon with drugs, sex, and other not-so-savory things. Bad people influence otherwise smart people to indulge to bad bad bad ends. Those bad influences can kill you, it's the ones that pull their heads out of their behinds and get straight that come away from those bad experiences mostly intact. With a GOOD learning experience in hand.
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Some are terrible and some seem inconsequencial at the time but later prove to be a pivotal moment in the development of the person you are today.
The truly horrible things I went through growing up definitely had an impact on who and how I am today as an adult.
However, I refuse to be one of those people who sit there and bawl about being (for example) abused in whatever manner and think the world now owes them payment in blood for their suffering. I wont blame my shortcomings or things I say and do on things that happened to me ages ago.
You can chose to learn from each and every one of those experiences, good or bad or evil or indifferent, can all be turned around instead of being used as a crutch.
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Was it someone you looked up to?
Was it someone you loved?
Was it someone you hated or were jealous of?
Probably more the latter in my case. Hate is a powerful feeling and one that I am accustomed to. Thankfully I have learned to use the dark jedi powers for good.
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Was it something sentimental that your mother might have given you? Was it a separation from your sibling at a young age for reasons not understood at the time?
Did I mention that you ask a lot of questions? LOL
Seriously though, my mother hasn't given me much in the way of sentimental anything. Nothing that would influence me either way.
Not uless you count the lump of coal she gave me for Christmas last year. LOL
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Was it somewhere that you visited that left a lasting impression upon your heart and mind?
I continue to be inspired and awestruck from my trip to Estes Park Colorado last year. The Rocky mountains are a great place to go for reconnection, peace and quiet.
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Are you being drawn to it even now?
I would say definitely. I really liked being there.
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Whomever you are today, what was it that happened when you were a child that helped to sculpt the fascinating individual that you have grown into?
Was it only a single thing or was it many?
Many many things. Overall I would say that I regret NOTHING I went through to be the person I am today.
What is the saying?
Whatever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger?
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posted August 03, 2007 10:21 AM |
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Was it a person? Was it a place? Was it a thing?
All those three in one - Marilyn Manson
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baklava
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posted August 03, 2007 11:49 AM |
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Yes but only by seeing his chicks do you realise the true irony of destiny...
etc...
Unfortunately this new teenage ho made him totally ruin his new album... :/ But meh, she'll be gone soon, and he'll hopefully make a few good songs after that again...
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setitetart
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posted August 03, 2007 03:51 PM |
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Was it a person? Was it a place? Was it a thing?
All those three in one - Marilyn Manson
Yep. I will say it again, that is one creepy dude. Not too bright either. LOL
The things he and the band bought at my store were pretty gross, a bunch of pervs. LOL
Writes mostly good music. I don't like the new *crap* he's coming out with...
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posted August 03, 2007 06:36 PM |
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Yeah But....
Didn't he used to roll with Nine Inch Nails? Dude NIN R0X0RZ! Trent Reznor iz a good teacher.
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Setitetart
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posted August 03, 2007 09:26 PM |
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Didn't he used to roll with Nine Inch Nails? Dude NIN R0X0RZ! Trent Reznor iz a good teacher.
Reznor is a GOD.
Manson is a wanna-be. LOL
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posted August 04, 2007 02:22 PM |
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Manson symbolizes everything wrong with this world.
No offence bak 
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baklava
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posted August 04, 2007 02:35 PM |
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Manson symbolizes everything wrong with this world.
Actually that's his entire purpose, to show people clearly what is wrong with this world. He made himself as a mirror of the society. Sometimes he takes a stance where he openly spits on bad things and sometimes he makes himself represent them so that people realise that even more. Just look at his lyrics and performances.
For example, the songs (and videos) like Dope Show, (S)Aint, MObscene, Beautiful People, Personal Jesus (though it's a remake), Disposable Teens, Coma White etc.
He's simply great, the only problem is understanding him right. Much like the Bible. 
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"Let me tell you what the blues
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you got the blues."
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Setitetart
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posted August 04, 2007 02:59 PM |
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He's simply great, the only problem is understanding him right. Much like the Bible.
True that. *nods head* LOL
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posted August 04, 2007 03:11 PM |
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Actually that's his entire purpose, to show people clearly what is wrong with this world. He made himself as a mirror of the society. Sometimes he takes a stance where he openly spits on bad things and sometimes he makes himself represent them so that people realise that even more. Just look at his lyrics and performances.
For example, the songs (and videos) like Dope Show, (S)Aint, MObscene, Beautiful People, Personal Jesus (though it's a remake), Disposable Teens, Coma White etc.
He's simply great, the only problem is understanding him right. Much like the Bible.
So in order to show people what's wrong, he is wrong?
In that case, where do you draw the line between something that is a protest, and what is just plain not right?
Perhaps Hitler's purpose was to show people that killing Jews was wrong, but he would still be the biggest perpetrator of all.
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posted August 04, 2007 06:06 PM |
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Well, I sure know that there's a line between comparing a somewhat gothic artist with Hitler... Let it go, I think he's in fact pretty normal compared to some people...Paris Hilton and those types, they are the weirdos...I don't think he does that much controversial except for his music, maybe...
Anyway, I haven't left home. My parents are paying for my studies at college, and they want me at home for some reason...
I don't think I had a lot of influences, really...I wrote few e-mails to some writers, and they were a bit of an inspiration, I guess...Especially David Gemmel...My username is in fact a character in one of his books...
Blah, I'm not a very interesting person because of that, I guess...
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posted August 04, 2007 09:39 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 21:41, 04 Aug 2007.
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So in order to show people what's wrong, he is wrong?
Who says he's wrong?
He only plays people who are wrong - in some of his videos or in a few of his lyrics. Like actors - you wouldn't say that Jack Nicholson is an evil psychopath with tendencies to rule the world just because he played Joker in the first Batman, right?
So he plays people he feels disgust towards - for exaple in the Nobodies video. Or Personal Jesus. Or especially (S)Aint. And many more.
In normal life, he is usually right actually. Remember his interview for Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" for example. And many other stuff.
He is of course wrong in a couple of things (he allows chicks to affect his music, does drugs sometimes, falls into depression a lot...) but nobody's perfect
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Let's get this thread on topic, shall we? I think we spammed it more than enough
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posted August 04, 2007 10:58 PM |
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Perhaps Hitler's purpose was to show people that killing Jews was wrong, but he would still be the biggest perpetrator of all.
Man does Hitler have to make an appearence in EVERY thread? Throughout the ages there have been uncountable violent, depraved maniacs. For once, I just wish someone would pick one besides Hitler. Hitler is so... cliche.
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posted August 04, 2007 11:43 PM |
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Well yea we have to bring him up.
Not many people love doing animals & taking showers in gold harmony
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posted August 05, 2007 03:45 AM |
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Childhood influences?
1. Hugh Hefner
2. Timothy Leary
3. Jimi Hendrix
Sex and Drugs and Rock n' Roll.
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posted August 05, 2007 10:22 AM |
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Movies where big deal for me in my childhood. Terminator 2, Aliens, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Back to the Future.. you name it.
Movies influences my life even this day quite bit. I love watching and collecting them.
What made me who i am today comes from things. What i have experiences in life so far and the own personality is one thing as well. Set backs in life has really grown me. Life is ain't always a fairy tale and can be painful at times but that what makes us stronger. There wouldn't be happiness if we wouldn't know misery i recon.
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posted August 05, 2007 12:45 PM |
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Influences? There is more than our own early experience and our role models. Each person responds different to certain chance 'nudges' due to morality, ideals, certain subconscious messages s/he receives from environment or media, emotional reasons, the mood at the time a key event happens..
I don't think I ever had role models apart from my parents. I try to see what is best in those I know and I may admire them for that but that hardly qualifies as having a role model.
My love-(occasionally )hate with my father certainly helped shape my personality. If there are some things that I can attribute to them apart from what they have done are my mother's compassion and my father's determination and common sense. Building a character is what matters most and I cannot thank them enough for their efforts in this.
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