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Roland
Roland


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posted August 16, 2007 10:17 AM
Edited by Roland at 10:19, 16 Aug 2007.

More polution,What to do?

We think and consider ourselves” the smartest” specie among the others.
Yet at this last “Civilization “, we are creating havoc, corruption and pollution in the land, the sea and the air.

Thought you are safe, you live there in the forest away from all that, think again the wind is blowing off some of them to you.
So were we going?  ...

“”China is on its way to becoming not only the world’s largest economy, but also its largest polluter. Of the world’s twenty most polluted cities, sixteen are in China. Ninety percent of the country’s cities have contaminated groundwater. The World Bank predicts that in the next fifteen years, China’s shortage of clean water will create 30 million “environmental refugees.”
China’s pollution problems, moreover, are no longer solely its own. Winds that whip up over the Gobi Desert sweep dark clouds of mercury, soot, and carbon monoxide to South Korea and Japan; as much as 40 percent of the air pollution in these countries can be traced to China. The toxic plumes travel further afield, now detected by scientists in San Francisco and Lake Tahoe. On bad days, a quarter of Los Angeles’s smog originates in China. Later this year, China is expected to overtake the United States as the world’s largest emitter of greenhouse gases; within twenty-five years, its annual contribution to global warming could triple.
One of the most polluted cities in China is Lanzhou, the capital of western Gansu Province, situated at the point where the Silk Road crosses the Yellow River....””
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Binabik
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posted August 16, 2007 10:22 AM

No comments on the rest for now, but....
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On bad days, a quarter of Los Angeles’s smog originates in China
I don't believe this for a minute.

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friendofgunnar
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posted August 16, 2007 10:36 AM
Edited by friendofgunnar at 10:37, 16 Aug 2007.

I don't eat anything from China anymore.  The heavy metal contamination is unbelievable.

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Roland
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posted August 16, 2007 11:48 AM

It is not just in China it is everywhere,like the Acid rain in Canada too;

Where do sulphur dioxide emissions come from?

Sulphur dioxide (SO2) is generally a byproduct of industrial processes and burning of fossil fuels. Ore smelting, coal-fired power generators and natural gas processing are the main contributors. In 2000, for instance, U.S. SO2 emissions were measured at 14.8 million tonnes - more than six times greater than Canada's 2.4 million tonnes. ....
Acid water

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baklava
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posted August 16, 2007 01:51 PM

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More polution,What to do?

Heh. For every environmental activist on the planet there is 10 corporate idiots who think only about making cash, even if that means screwing the environment; and who are then oh so confused when acid rains and such happen.
Until their ideas are rooted out (which is impossible since money is already in the soul of every human on the planet, as well as the wish to gain more of it) the planet is just going to be worse every year. But since you can't explain anything to them, we are just going to exterminate ourselves along with all other life on Earth.
But hey, they'll make a lot of cash along the way, so it's ok, right?
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted August 16, 2007 02:50 PM

A cultural ice age. A prematurely induced dark age. Force humanity to go dormant or into remission long enough for the Earth to recover.


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Aculias
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posted August 16, 2007 06:37 PM

Polution is like peace.
Some people just dont believe in it nor do they care about it.
As long as there are people with greed (industires) & disrespect for the planet, there will always be polution.
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roy-algriffin
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posted August 17, 2007 06:38 AM

The truth is there isnt much to do about it. but the fact is that humans are versatile and adapt quickly. if the whole planet starts to heat up eventually we will get used to it and to the cold in winter, and the passing generations will recieve these atrriutes needed for this kind of endurance.
basically we will probably outlive most of the materials easily obtainable in the planet

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baklava
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posted August 17, 2007 01:15 PM

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but the fact is that humans are versatile and adapt quickly. if the whole planet starts to heat up eventually we will get used to it and to the cold in winter

No, not really. By the point humanity gets used to it, 95% of the world's populace will be dead (at best) and the remaining 5% will have to face natural disasters, and almost all technology will be irreversibly unusable - besides, among those 5% of the populace, very few people will actually be able to use that little technology or resources that would remain.
So, uhm, we'll all just die like a chicken under a steam engine.
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Roland
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posted August 17, 2007 05:29 PM
Edited by Roland at 21:33, 26 Aug 2007.

Quote:
Quote:
but the fact is that humans are versatile and adapt quickly. if the whole planet starts to heat up eventually we will get used to it and to the cold in winter

No, not really. By the point humanity gets used to it, 95% of the world's populace will be dead (at best) and the remaining 5% will have to face natural disasters, and almost all technology will be irreversibly unusable - besides, among those 5% of the populace, very few people will actually be able to use that little technology or resources that would remain.
So, uhm, we'll all just die like a chicken under a steam engine.


yes that is mostly right,every living thing has it's own limitation up and down for the temperature,when the matter is unbearable the damage will occur severely,and here comes death.  
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GothCowboy
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posted August 19, 2007 04:11 PM

intersting enough, i had just read an article about volcanos. it saying that the pollution from volcanos equals something like 17 years of car emisssions. has anyone noticed the rise in volcanic activity in the recent past?

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antipaladin
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posted August 19, 2007 04:16 PM

the reason is sociel idiotism
the selution is messive susacide.

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JoonasTo
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posted August 19, 2007 06:06 PM

Quote:
the reason is sociel idiotism
the selution is messive susacide.


Agreed. Let's start killing.
Who's with me?
What?No one!
How come?
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antipaladin
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posted August 20, 2007 12:00 AM

actually i was meaning something else..
people who think they polute should kill themself.
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roy-algriffin
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posted August 20, 2007 05:53 AM
Edited by roy-algriffin at 05:55, 20 Aug 2007.

i dont actually think temperature will rise that quickly. more likely to be a steady decline over several centuries.
anyway i think the best answer is to plant lots and lots of trees. shouldnt the atmosphere recover if we have enough?
i heard somewhere that were not likely to have enough oil for another 50 years either at the rate its used. there will probably be much less pollution then (but how they will power planes i have no idea)

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Roland
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posted August 20, 2007 11:58 AM

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i dont actually think temperature will rise that quickly. more likely to be a steady decline over several centuries.
anyway i think the best answer is to plant lots and lots of trees. shouldnt the atmosphere recover if we have enough?
i heard somewhere that were not likely to have enough oil for another 50 years either at the rate its used. there will probably be much less pollution then (but how they will power planes i have no idea)


I agree with that, they say that trees are the lungs of Earth.
Nevertheless there is a massive tree cutting all over the world especially in the most important are The Amazon.
On the other hand we have the massive forest fires which happen from our brilliant neglecting and ignorance(sometimes it is done for just the evil pleasure of harming), or sometimes from lightening.  

And more options for cutting trees something like (for fireplace, making papers…).

I found this article on NG about The Amazon:
harming nature

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GothCowboy
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posted August 26, 2007 08:10 PM

http://news.aol.com/story/ar/_a/quarter-degree-fix-fuels-climate-fight/20070826105809990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001 if you read this you might out that the situation may not be as bad as they say. NASA has screwed up again.

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Binabik
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posted August 26, 2007 08:41 PM

If you read it completely, it says the adjustment to the temperature is insignificant and only affects the temperatures in the US which is only 2% of the world's surface.

Although I do wonder how they measure average temperature of the earth. Like where and how do they measure?

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GothCowboy
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posted August 26, 2007 08:43 PM

but then again part of the stats that has been pointing to global warming is the the whole one degree of change, but now it isn't the full one degree. so just how insignificant is that?

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SwampLord
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posted August 26, 2007 10:03 PM

Eventually, we will have the technological skills to survive pretty much any kind of contamination of the planet. That is our greatest strength and greatest flaw, together. Technology can accomplish so much, but it's destroying the planet. Ah, well.
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