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Corribus
Corribus

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posted August 29, 2007 05:57 PM

@Miru

I'm sure I could ask you a whole bunch of questions to which you do not know the answer.  Does that mean you are stupid compared to me?

Btw IQ is a dumb way to measure the worth of a human.  I can tell you what my IQ is, but does it matter?  What difference does it make if I can solve logic puzzles in my head?  It doesn't make me a better person than someone who can't.

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roy-algriffin
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posted August 29, 2007 06:31 PM

well if everyone around you when your 20 is still an absoloute idiot in your mind theres then your obviously far too intellegent to ever be happy with anyone else.
people mature. a lot of people seem like idiots until they get older.

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angelito
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posted August 29, 2007 06:33 PM

Manny of the "famous" serial killers had a pretty high IQ btw...
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wog_edn
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posted August 29, 2007 07:05 PM
Edited by wog_edn at 19:23, 29 Aug 2007.

Try this to find out your IQ... should be pretty ok I think now I am about to find out my IQ

Edit:
Your General IQ Score of 149 shows how able your mind is in general. Anyone with a General IQ Score this high is considered to be a genius. This score is better than 99.95% of all persons taking this test. All known occupations can be comprehended with a General IQ this high. You should be able to handle any academic challenges.

Which means I not dumb as I thought

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Orfinn
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posted August 29, 2007 07:50 PM
Edited by Orfinn at 19:53, 29 Aug 2007.

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Manny of the "famous" serial killers had a pretty high IQ btw...


Until they made a mistake and got caught.
A highly intelligent serial killer will never get cought.
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Elvin
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posted August 29, 2007 08:09 PM

Everyone makes mistakes at some time. Unless they retire first
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angelito
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posted August 29, 2007 08:56 PM

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Manny of the "famous" serial killers had a pretty high IQ btw...


Until they made a mistake and got caught.
A highly intelligent serial killer will never get cought.
Wrong. Most of them wanted to be caught, coz they wanted to become  famous. Intelligence doesn't exclude ability of making faults...
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angelito
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posted August 29, 2007 09:10 PM

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Try this to find out your IQ... should be pretty ok I think now I am about to find out my IQ
This test has as much to do with IQ measuring as Mr. Bush sen. has to do with Adonis
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Binabik
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posted August 29, 2007 09:34 PM

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Your General IQ Score of 149 shows how able your mind is in general. Anyone with a General IQ Score this high is considered to be a genius. This score is better than 99.95% of all persons taking this test. All known occupations can be comprehended with a General IQ this high. You should be able to handle any academic challenges.
LOL, you have to PAY to get your "IQ" score from that place. What you quoted is just the example of what it would look like.

Besides, like Angelito said, that test is bogus. They are just trying to steal people's money by appealing to their ego.

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Corribus
Corribus

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posted August 29, 2007 10:02 PM

IQ tests are all about statistics, and a reliable score (such as it is) requires a controlled setting.  Internet tests like that do not qualify.

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Miru
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posted August 30, 2007 12:46 AM

I have a number points to make

Well I measured my IQ years ago when it was fairly easy... the quick way to measure IQ is MentalAge/ChronologicalAge*100, but this only works when you are younger than 18is, because above that age you slow down learn and brain development. using this I found mine to be ~170.

My next point - intelligence versus work. People who study hard, and get good grades are not necessarily smart, in fact most geni can't do that. Grades are a reflection of how much work you can cough up, not how well you understand things.

I don't mind other people being stupid on there own, but when it affects me, and when nobody believes me because everyone else says what I say, it frustrates me. It is this frustration that has led to me hating people.

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There are many more things to consider in life and making that mistake will make you feel worse. There are people that are less intelligent than me that I enjoy being with and respect a lot.


As I said, I too have some thick friends, but I don't hate them.

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Also basing your thoughts on internet tests is not that smart on its own


I would never make a statement this arrogant based off of internet tests.

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smarter-than-you attitude


No I rarely mention this and mostly I just avoid these people. This is the first time I've mentioned it publicly.

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@Miru

I'm sure I could ask you a whole bunch of questions to which you do not know the answer.  Does that mean you are stupid compared to me?

BTW IQ is a dumb way to measure the worth of a human.  I can tell you what my IQ is, but does it matter?  What difference does it make if I can solve logic puzzles in my head?  It doesn't make me a better person than someone who can't.
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A) IQ is actually a measure of beurocratic skill, but it for the most part reflects intelligence, and its the best set of numbers we have. Mainly I'm using it as an example.

B) solving logic puzzles is a great example of intelligence, and with few exceptions it mostly reflects intelligence. And I value intelligence and logic higher than any other trait.
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shadey
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posted August 30, 2007 06:57 AM

Intelligence and logic mean nothing.  

At your age you might think they're the most important attributes to possess, but as soon as you enter college you're going to get steam rolled.  Get wise imo.  

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Elvin
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posted August 30, 2007 07:26 AM

I second that
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texcaboose
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posted August 30, 2007 12:42 PM

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Intelligence is actually a relatively minor human attribute compared to other things.

Compared to what other things? Looks? Physical strength?


How about open-mindedness..........

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TheDeath
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posted August 30, 2007 01:41 PM

How about wisdom?

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Binabik
Binabik


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posted August 30, 2007 02:41 PM

How about the ability to get along with your fellow human beings? Logic puzzles pale in comparison. Differential equations amd linear algebra? Trivial and insignificant.

A child
lying on her back
as the clouds pass overhead
comptemplation
observation
no thought
no logic
the answers are there
in the shape of a cloud
the shape of a ship
sailing on the sea
a tear
running down the cheek
of a child

Are people this dumb? Am I blind?
Not blind, you just need to look at the bigger picture.

The tear. Is it a  tear of sadness? Or is it a tear of beauty?

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Corribus
Corribus

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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted August 30, 2007 04:06 PM

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Well I measured my IQ years ago when it was fairly easy... the quick way to measure IQ is MentalAge/ChronologicalAge*100, but this only works when you are younger than 18is, because above that age you slow down learn and brain development. using this I found mine to be ~170.

This is a very, very old definition and is no longer used seriously, even for children.  IQs are calculated by comparing individual test scores to large distributions of scores from a diverse population.

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A) IQ is actually a measure of beurocratic skill, but it for the most part reflects intelligence, and its the best set of numbers we have. Mainly I'm using it as an example.

I'd argue that IQ tests only assess a small portion of what I would consider intelligence.  For instance, IQ tests do not really measure creativity or memorization skills, both essential components, IMO, to intelligence.  Furthermore, most IQ tests are biased towards good test takers.  

My original point is that it is a little unfair to jump to the conclusion that, just because someone is unable to solve a simple algebra problem on paper, that means they are unintelligent.  It is quite possible that they just have never been properly educated in mathmematical formalism, even at an elementary level.  

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JoonasTo
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posted August 30, 2007 05:35 PM

Being intelligent doesn't stop you from being dumb.

I know I'm more intelligent than the most but I'm still dumb. Why else would I be sitting here at the computer and not doing sports? I know I won't make it through the army with this physique (2500 in cooper). (Well the pouring rain might have something to do with it.)

I do stupid things quite a lot actually. They are refreshing.

Not everyone has bright brains but anyone can be wise. So if you hate slow people you aren't very wise yourself.

In the end intelligence doesn't mean a thing. Wisdom is what you should be seeking.
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baklava
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posted August 30, 2007 07:21 PM

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How about the ability to get along with your fellow human beings?

A wide term... Getting along...

Intelligence is far from mere differential equations and linear algebra. Intelligence covers many things, more than we are aware.

Nevertheless, some people are smarter, some are less smart; I would never judge people because of their intelligence or the lack of it. No one should.

About the poem.

The tear lingers slowly
Gently down the cheek
As it glances calmly
Into the abyss
Just seconds away
Is that tear's fall
On the ground so dirty
In oblivion
How did it get born?
Whose eye did it leave?
Was it out of sorrow,
or beauty or joy?
Who has been the Adam?
Who has been the Eve?
Does it have a purpose?
Is it just a ploy?
Questions bursting on through
The tear, calm as ever
It will soon be wiped off
So it doesn't matter
And indeed a hand
Descends on the tear
It rubs the cheek slowly
And it is again clear.

I hope that answers your question
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Doomforge
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posted August 30, 2007 10:43 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 22:43, 30 Aug 2007.

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I'd argue that IQ tests only assess a small portion of what I would consider intelligence.  For instance, IQ tests do not really measure creativity or memorization skills, both essential components, IMO, to intelligence.  Furthermore, most IQ tests are biased towards good test takers.


most of the IQ tests measure your "brain reflexes" - the quicker you answer, the bigger "IQ" it shows. But hey, what about people that are slow thinkers, but, given enough time, can completely out-smart the "brain cowboy" with his quick weapon draw? IQ tests suck big time IMO. Plus, they evidently don't test creativity like Corribus said, and many other features.

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