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cricwarez
cricwarez

Tavern Dweller
posted November 11, 2007 12:01 PM bonus applied.
Edited by cricwarez at 19:09, 28 Feb 2008.

Guide: The Battlefield Dissected

Hello,

I created a summary file with schemas and captions of many things concerning the battlefield: creatures attack area, aura, speed, special abilities, movements and much more…

Your comments and suggestions are welcomed

****** FINAL VERSION 2008 ******
http://www.heroes-fr.com/downloads/The_Illustrated_Guide_to_the_Battlefield_en.pdf

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Legendary_hero
Legendary_hero


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posted November 11, 2007 12:28 PM

nice work
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Cleave
Cleave


Promising
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posted November 11, 2007 12:55 PM

Nice work indeed although I don't get the hexagones in many pictures (they look very nice nevertheless).

Anyway, I just want to point out that damages with an s refers to "dommages et intérêts", "indemnités" or "dommages (vocabulaire juridique)" if you're talking about "dégâts" don't put an s to this word (it doesn't take any).

I don't mean to nitpick (I'm French btw).

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cricwarez
cricwarez

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posted November 12, 2007 07:03 AM
Edited by cricwarez at 07:05, 12 Nov 2007.

What do you mean by 'I don't get the hexagones'?
Anyway, I appreciate your comment and waiting for more...

As you can see, the abilities of the Elemental Gargoyles associated with Magnetic Golems seem to be the most complicated ones in the game. I tried to establish all the possible cases to help people to know what to do in every situation... This is mainly the reason why I created this file: I was so frustrated to be unable to predict the future movement of a creature, to know if this creature will go through the snare set by Goblins Trappers for example or to know the attack area of the Untamed Cyclops or the Rakshasa Kshatra and all the cases where it is ambiguous...

This leads me to have this thought: is Heroes not too complicated? Well, don't get my wrong. I'm very fond of this game. I'm just thinking
: generally the best principles are always the most simple ones. Not the case for Heroes at all. And if this is always the gamer who know better the special effect of an ability who will make the difference, we cannot speak about tactical or strategic game. Again, don't make me wrong. If I spent so much time to make this file is because I love to understand and dominate this complexity. But what about casual gamer?

If you want to discuss about the pdf file, don't hesitate even if it is to report a mistake or whatever. This is this kind of remarks that make things progress

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Maurice
Maurice

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posted November 12, 2007 09:35 AM

Quote:
And if this is always the gamer who know better the special effect of an ability who will make the difference, we cannot speak about tactical or strategic game.


I would actually say the opposite: the person who understand all of the options at hand and how to combine them has a tactical and/or strategical advantage over those who don't. That's what war is all about: to use and exploit everything you have available to the best of your abilities (of course, the opposition determines just how strong you need to depend on that).

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Cleave
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Raging Blood
posted November 12, 2007 11:57 AM

Quote:
What do you mean by 'I don't get the hexagones'?
Anyway, I appreciate your comment and waiting for more...


I noticed that you used hexagones as a backdrop for some units. Nothing that mars your analysis but it looks rather out of place IMHO.

Quote:
Quote:
And if this is always the gamer who know better the special effect of an ability who will make the difference, we cannot speak about tactical or strategic game.


I would actually say the opposite: the person who understand all of the options at hand and how to combine them has a tactical and/or strategical advantage over those who don't.


I agree with Maurice on that point. Knowing your enemy's abilities and your own is essential.

"If you know both yourself and your enemy, you will come out of one hundred battles with one hundred victories."

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Nirual
Nirual


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posted November 12, 2007 12:55 PM

Nice work on the diagrams. The spelling and the layout could use some work, but it's understandable anyway.
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Daystar
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posted November 12, 2007 01:12 PM
Edited by Daystar at 13:12, 12 Nov 2007.

Awesome peice of work.
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sfidanza
sfidanza


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posted November 14, 2007 11:40 PM

Quote:
Quote:
What do you mean by 'I don't get the hexagones'?
Anyway, I appreciate your comment and waiting for more...


I noticed that you used hexagones as a backdrop for some units. Nothing that mars your analysis but it looks rather out of place IMHO.

Do you mean the dwarven subterranean terrain like in pp.9-12?

(and as I said in the french forum, nice work! )

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vinetu80
vinetu80


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posted November 15, 2007 01:33 AM

As they said, awsome! How much time did it take you?! Alc, Sfidanza, if this doesn't merit a QP, I don't know what does
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frostwolf
frostwolf


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posted November 16, 2007 12:34 AM

Indeed awesome post. Deserves a qp.

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Cleave
Cleave


Promising
Famous Hero
Raging Blood
posted November 16, 2007 07:46 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
What do you mean by 'I don't get the hexagones'?
Anyway, I appreciate your comment and waiting for more...


I noticed that you used hexagones as a backdrop for some units. Nothing that mars your analysis but it looks rather out of place IMHO.

Do you mean the dwarven subterranean terrain like in pp.9-12?

(and as I said in the french forum, nice work! )


Yes, but it is not that detrimental, I'm just giving some feedback. It's a very nice work indeed.

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cricwarez
cricwarez

Tavern Dweller
posted November 17, 2007 03:56 PM

Thanks for your remarks and comments.
Thanks for the QP. I’m really happy to see my work to be recognized.
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I’m preparing a better version of the pdf file. It will be more complete and precise, and hopefully with less spelling errors

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Elvin
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posted November 17, 2007 05:11 PM

Just checked it, congratulations on your work While I generally knew the route units will take I had not observed that they move straight until they find the diagonal

No, the game is not THAT complicated, anyone can pick it up and play. But that's what makes people differ, how well they know it and how they assess each situation. I believe in success through experience and there are many things to be found even after many games. You just have to gain an intuition in how things work and that comes naturally with time.
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cricwarez
cricwarez

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posted December 19, 2007 07:14 PM
Edited by cricwarez at 19:29, 19 Dec 2007.

I’m proud of presenting you ‘The Illustrated Guide of the Battlefield’ allowed by Ubisoft to bear the Seal of Approval.
This new version contains 40 slides and more than 150 in-game screenshots!
Downloading link is on the first post.
Any comment is welcome.
Overview:

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emilsn
emilsn


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posted December 19, 2007 07:32 PM

I cant download it :S
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mlai
mlai


Adventuring Hero
posted December 19, 2007 09:22 PM

I tried Firefox and Internet Explorer; neither was able to download this pdf.

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cricwarez
cricwarez

Tavern Dweller
posted December 19, 2007 09:23 PM

Problem fixed.
New downloading link on the first post.

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted December 19, 2007 09:39 PM

I see you had some interesting new additions, Seal of Approval well-deserved
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mlai
mlai


Adventuring Hero
posted December 19, 2007 09:49 PM

OK what's going on?  I tried again, doesn't work.  I cleared my cache then tried again, doesn't work.

Do I have to register to dl from Mediafire?  Is that it?

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