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InfernoX880
InfernoX880


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posted December 21, 2007 01:35 AM
Edited by InfernoX880 at 21:14, 21 Dec 2007.

Crystal Dragon

I finally gotten started on my Crystal Dragon mod. Its still in a very basic stage. For those of you unfamiliar with the concept, I am generally trying to introduce a Crystal Dragon (thats right the good old ones) into the game. Here is the most basic version (also a link but I have no idea what its for):

(Image removed by InfernoX880)

Please post any suggestions on appearance for now and if you really must, and suggestions on stats and such are very welcome. For those of your more interested, I hope to have the mod ready by New Years, but will probably be unable to finish completely by then. Also, if anyone is interested in helping me to create this creature, please do tell and I would gladly do with some help (mainly programming the actual creature into the game). For now, comments on the appearance, I want to finish the image before moving on.

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Daystar
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posted December 21, 2007 03:06 AM

It needs more sparkles!
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InfernoX880
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posted December 21, 2007 03:11 AM
Edited by InfernoX880 at 03:28, 21 Dec 2007.

I think...I overdid it.


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mamgaeater
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posted December 21, 2007 03:31 AM

getting better. but my two cents would be to try to make the scales more... transparent.
also please resize images before posting.
you are giving me a headache.

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InfernoX880
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posted December 21, 2007 03:34 AM

Yeah sorry about that. I accidentally overposted the first and forgot to resize second. As for transparaency...I'd need some sort of guide or hint. I'm kind of newish to this so if you guys could help me figure out the ups and downs of recoloring that would help a lot.

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mamgaeater
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posted December 21, 2007 03:39 AM
Edited by mamgaeater at 03:39, 21 Dec 2007.

well for transparency i dunno how you do that...
try well i don't know
maybe if you make the scales lighter it'll look better.
lighter and brighter
other than that what will its specials be and what will it replace?
i'd like to know more about this.
also you will have to change Sylvans dragon to something else.
either way it look good so far on magma dragon model.
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posted December 21, 2007 03:52 AM

Are you using Photoshop?  If so, go to channels (hunt around till you find it) and try making the Alpha channel (should be White and Black) somewhat grey.

Alternativey you could look at the crystal object and try to adjust the settings on your Crystal Dragon to acheive glossiness.  

I would suggest:
Spec Factor: ~80
MetalMirror: 0.7
DielMirror: 1
Mirror: Texture:_(Model)\Resourses\Gems-gems.(Texture)
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WarLore
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posted December 21, 2007 10:12 AM

second one is great,what abilities you think add it? maybe prismatic breath?
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InfernoX880
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posted December 21, 2007 09:13 PM
Edited by InfernoX880 at 21:15, 21 Dec 2007.

@Daystar
No I'm not using Photoshop, I'm currently using both GIMP and Windows Photo Editor (which has only a few features that are actually helpful like brightness, correcting color difference and a few others). I'll fiddle around with it...

@needsalt & Warlore
Thanks a lot.

@Magmaeater
The Sylvan Dragon is first going to be only renamed. I might make a few changes to color, but nothing big for Rainbow Dragons. As for Crystal Dragon, I am debating about a few things:
1) Stats will probably be pretty high. I'm debating as to making it a full power killing machine or something more along the lines of a more powerful Phoenix.
2) Abilities...probably the one that doesn't allow you to lower its Defense. Fire Breath MIGHT be included because removing fire breath would make the animation kind of screwy so unless I get some better modders to change animation, Fire Breath will stay. Maybe Enraged also. I'm not certain. Ideas would be great, I'm making this mod for the public so whatever you tell me to do now, is what you might end up playing with in the future.

I also want to make these Dragons obtainable but I am debating how...I would hate to put in a mod which so rarely will make any difference. I'll think about that and if I have any ideas, I'll let you guys know.

EDIT: Actually, Warlore's idea is nice. Prismatic Breath wouldn't disrupt the animation and would fit in quite nicely. I'll make a note of that.

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posted December 21, 2007 09:19 PM

Spec Factor: ~80
MetalMirror: 0.7
DielMirror: 1
Mirror: Texture:_(Model)\Resourses\Gems-gems.(Texture)

This works in the Editor, are you familiar with the SharedProperties thing?
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InfernoX880
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posted December 21, 2007 09:35 PM
Edited by InfernoX880 at 21:54, 21 Dec 2007.

@Daystar
No I'm hardly familiar with any sorts of texture editing. Help would be appreciated.

I have a few extra screens, changed the color of the yellow one so that its a little brighter, you can hardly tell the difference between the different types of yellow now. Its a little...monotonous and I'm thinking of adding some dark colors to it (RED!). I also have a few pics of it in combat because there is a difference in the look though it may be small.








Also, here is a different take, an extreme red one, meant to look like the old ones. I think it looks too much like a Magma Dragon but if I figure out how to do transparencies and can manage to get the lighting correct, it might actually come out pretty nice:



EDIT: Nice, I've managed to find a nice setting that lets me pick the coloration. Give your opinion of which would look best:
1) red
2) yellow
3) green
4) cyan
5) blue
6) pink
7) white (which would be most transparent)
And of course mixes of colors can be suggested as well. Any suggestions or comments are much appreciated.

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mamgaeater
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posted December 21, 2007 09:57 PM

cyan and white

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Cepheus
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posted December 21, 2007 10:09 PM

I remember making stuff like this with simple colour changing a few months ago.  Each texture file took me about forty seconds to make

So this link might prove useful.

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posted December 21, 2007 10:17 PM
Edited by Daystar at 22:22, 21 Dec 2007.



It should be self explanatory, press CTRL+SPACE to make it available.
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InfernoX880
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posted December 21, 2007 10:23 PM

magmaeater, your opinion has not gone unnoitced and here is the image. Let me guess...darker cyan, right?



@Daystar
Thanks for that. I'll check it out. For now, I think texture is nearing its end. A few more models, then you (pl.) decide which one. This means that any day now, I'm going to need a lot of help doing all the other stuff...

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posted December 21, 2007 11:50 PM

Darker is good.
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InfernoX880
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posted December 21, 2007 11:56 PM

Here's one more. Once again, darker is good, but I think this one is my favorite so far (at least when I visualize it completed)



I would like to finalize the textures. If you already have one that is without a shadow of doubt your favorite, tell me si I can omit deleting it. As of now, the above one is the one I'm using after it has those white patches turned into a lovely light red.

Also, suggestions for stats and abilities will soon be needed so please do share ideas.

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posted December 21, 2007 11:58 PM

I think the fade should be subbtler.
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InfernoX880
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posted December 22, 2007 12:09 AM

I didn't change it much. Just that white color. Looks really nice in battle though. It's kind of wierd due to lack of varieyt so I'm probably going to add some color differenatiation (brighter and darker red, maybe some yellow). I think this is the model I will probably build on. Please post if you would rather have a different Crystal Dragon.


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mamgaeater
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posted December 22, 2007 12:19 AM
Edited by mamgaeater at 00:20, 22 Dec 2007.

great looking awesome.
but looks alot like magma dragon.
maybe a little darker and a little more gloss on the scaales.
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