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ElectricBunny
ElectricBunny


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posted February 09, 2008 04:33 PM

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Ah, but you couldn't just build the Supreme Sky Alter or something like that and BUY supreme archangels.


Actually you sorta could, they were recruitable in towns.


How? as far as I know you could only get 7th level upgrades and they automatically became 8th level. if not, sorry, my mistake

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landsknecht
landsknecht


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Askin' for war :p and payments
posted February 09, 2008 06:35 PM

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@Landsknecht- Its not that their needing changed, but rahter they're balanced with nothing interesting. I wasn't meant to change them. Really you've done a good job. Just impress me with the Necropolis!

PS- ¿Falange es español? Hmm, never heard of that. Why not just use Phalanx? Greek infantrial names sound cool.


REasons i use spanish name because the appearance of unit will have medieval and a bit renaissance era

Necropolis creatures
Level1: Skeleton Gunman Skeleton Soldier (no melee penalty) / Skeleton Hunter (no range penalty)
weak Shooter
Dwelling: Skeletal Assembly
Level2: Zombie Abominable Zombie (frankenstein stuff , chances to do extra electrical damage against enemy opponents) / Plague Zombie (ability to plague opponents)
Tanker.
Dwelling: Morgue
Level3: Ghost Shade / Spectre
Flyer, Incorporeal (chances to recieve ZERO damages vulnerable to priest,inquisitor, and exorcists)
Dwelling: Cemetry
Level4: Vampire Gangrel (uses rapier together with pistol... shooter) / Nosferatu (Spellcaster)
Vampirism (ability to transfer damage on any LIFE units to replenish (and add a new member in a stack)), uses Rapier
Dwelling: Mansion
Level5: Lich Power Lich(Offensive spells) / Aristocratic Lich (Buff spells)
Spellcaster
Dwelling: Mausoleum
Level6: Wraith Reaper (each unit killed by this creature has "Soul points" (depends on unit level)... which in turn.. transfered into MANA for a hero this creature is serving... higher tier slain unit isXquantity of slain units. higher  points ) / Banshee (posesses enemy units, horror scream!)
Flyer. Incorporeal
Dwelling: Haunted Cathedral
Level7: Death Knight Revenant Knight (Chrono attack (Attacks all adjacent enemy units)) / Avenger Knight (Enrage, Slayer ability)
Cavalry unit. uses killing blow. jousting bonus
Dwelling: Knightly Memorial
Level8: Bone Dragon (bite) Lich Dragon (dead cloud burst) / Spectral Dragon (Able to cast "mass horror", Incorporeal)
Big Flyer!
Dwelling: Dragon Graveyard

Structure
FortFortress/Castle
Tavern
Marketplace Resource Silo (gems)
Mage Guild Necromancer's Guild (increases percentage of fallen creatures to be turned into undead, the more city with this stuff you have, more undead units obtained via necromancy skills to every necromancers (or heroes with such skills) you have Rites of Passasge... better name?? (turns any given LIFE units available into specific undead units.... works much like marketplace)
Shipyard.
Shroud Generator (limits enemy LOS within operating vicinity. can affect allied players too!!)

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


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posted February 09, 2008 09:15 PM

Arrgh! NOOOO. I apologize for that, but if I may speak freely...
What have you done to my Necropolis!!!! Sorry about that ouburst, no offense meant.

-Skeletons + Guns =
-Vampire + a rapier= . Stick to the two-handed sword. Kind of a trademark.
-Liches = . Bad all through it. Power Lich, okay, but I don't like it (even if it is from homam). Aristocratic Lich is redundant. And horribly named. But, I won't curse you for it. Its your opinion and your Necropolis (thank Asha).
-Avenger Knight is an oxymoron. Why would something accursed seek vengeance. They have no soul to have been hurt.
-Lich Dragon- erggh, my Lich! Please don't do this!

Suggestions-
Lich Archlich -OR- Phantom Lich
Avenger knight to Ghastly Knight, Knightly Memorial to Ebon Memorial
Lich Dragon to Genodragon
Rites of Passage to Nether Shrine

PS- I mean no offense in any of this. I just take things seriously.

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landsknecht
landsknecht


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posted February 09, 2008 09:36 PM
Edited by landsknecht at 21:37, 09 Feb 2008.

0. Human gunsmiths who wish to get rich in short time not only make guns for castellans. they also sell their products to necromancers in large quantity also
Alrite i will changed that
- Aris. Lich to Phantom Lich (it has a masque)
- Lich Dragon to Genodragon
- Avenger Knight to Ghastly Knight
- Rites of Passage to Nether Shrine
- Knightly Memorial to Ebon Memorial

... Certain heroes need it's name changed.
Infernal MAGIC hero: Sommoner, changed to Demonologist

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Andrelvis
Andrelvis


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posted February 09, 2008 10:29 PM

The things I liked most are the haven handgunners and the skeleton gunmen =)

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alcibiades
alcibiades


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Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted February 10, 2008 12:50 AM

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Level1: Skeleton Gunman


Skeleton Gunman ... Oh, my eyes, my eyes, they're hurting.

Why do this give me horrible nightmares of the Heroes 3 abomination comming back? Will there be also Zombies with chainsaws on their arms, or Naga tanks?
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What will happen now?

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Landsknecht
Landsknecht


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posted February 11, 2008 05:54 PM

Long time no see i'm quite busy rightnow

NEXT faction
Wizard Sultanate

Themes: Crusader era Islamic empire (Arabian Nights??) + King Suleiman's era ancient Israel + India + Persia

Heroes
MIGHT: Amir, Vizier, or Alchemist... what should be better name? ... comes with Nobility (or certain abilities )
MAGIC: Wizard. Psychic based magic, may learn elementals. not excel in castellan and nature based magic

Towns: Academy ,Tower, or Magopolis???

‚‚­Bto be continued

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booboo
booboo


Adventuring Hero
posted February 11, 2008 06:32 PM

The "tower" name is kinda plain and boring. I would go for Academy all the way.

Btw, I think, Landsknecht, that you have some really mighty(or magical ) ideas but those are overshadowed by other downsides that complete those ideas.

I think your factions are solid, and by that I mean really welded togheter. Nice ideas, BUT please, in the name of whatever god or deity, please lose the guns. I know you won't but please. Guns do not belong in the Homm games, really. Not even the early ones from the renaissance. There are hundreds of REAL reasons why they should be left out. OK, a litlle bit off-topic but sorry.

I really want to see what's your idea for the dwarves.
Byez

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bixie
bixie


Promising
Legendary Hero
my common sense is tingling!
posted February 11, 2008 07:33 PM

Vizier
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Love, Laugh, Learn, Live.

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted February 11, 2008 09:55 PM

I concur with "Vizier" as the Might Hero. And asking Landsknecht to lose guns is like telling a George Bush to stop making mistakes.
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Steel Yourself for War

Next Set: Mirrodin
Beseiged

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landsknecht
landsknecht


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Askin' for war :p and payments
posted February 12, 2008 06:21 AM

certain race (maybe S) will not get guns because they are not so civilised enough. or saw it as cheating weapons

castellans still have archers fighing alongside gunmen. i should say that archer requires extensive training for many years, with the advent of firearms, they have to be more extensive trained in order to do what smallarms cannot. like "artillery" manner, scatter shots and hurls explosive-loaded arrows with their bows!!!!!!

Back to .. ACADEMY factions

- Lifeless: creatures are created by wizards out of non-living things. "animated" by spells (could be soul , maybe not. but not in evil style like necromancers), it has no morale, no morale debuffs on other friendly units. prone to "Meit" spells (Meit is hebrew word .. uses to break golems). immune to necromancer's certain kinda spells.
- NOT ALL demons fight for hellish bosses, certain demons used to fight for (like gremlins), certain demons never in service of the Soverign., certains are captured by wizards , some willing to fight for wizards for some reasons. .. however. those demons are vulnerable to paranoid minds of castellan (certain castellan spells do damage them along with hellish creatures so watchout!)

Creatures
Level1: Gremlin Gremlin Thief (steals mana from opponent... Countermeasure against demons?... think of WW2 airmen tales) / Gremlin Janissary
Shooter, armed with magic pulse rifle (instead of using magic handgoone. they have weapons that looks more magical (wand like. but gems (should also be power generator) are located at the "chamber" ,glass lens at the muzzle. fixes "lifeless" units. Demon, prone to castellan "religious" spells
Dwelling: Millet office
Level2: Cement Gargoyle (cements are very common substance) Stone Gargoyle (defensive) / Obsidian Gargoyle (offensive)
Flyer, lifeless
Dwelling: Sculptor/carver workshop
Level3: Ceramic Golem Steel Golem (defensive) / Chrystal Golem (offensive)
Dwelling: Golem Workshop
Tanker, lifeless, high resistance against elemtal spells
Level4: Mage Enchanter (excels in buffs+offensive) / Illusionist (should be other name? excells in debuffs+defensive )
Shooter, spellcaster, human
Dwelling: School of Magic.
Level5: Djinn Benevolent Djinn (buffs+defensive) / Ifriti (debuff+offensive.... remember that .. i think Wizards finally captured ifriti from the inferno by trapping them inside the magic lamp, then they turned this evil genie into their service)
flyer, spellcaster for three times per battle. incorporeal, demon
Dwelling: Altar of Wishes
Level6: Rakshasa Sena Rakshasa Rani (defense) / Rakshasa Ksatriya (offense)
Dwelling: Vimana (they were venerable beings for the lost civilization didn't they ?)
Charger, Demon, attacks all adjacent creatures, no enemy retaliation
Level7: Colossus Talos (siege + melee) / Titan (shooter)
Tanker, lifeless, immune to certain spells
Dwelling: Colossal assembly
Level8: Chrystal Dragon Diamond Dragon (offense) / Vortex Dragon (defense)
Flyer, lifeless, immule to everything but "meit" spells, not immune to attacks inflicted by a creature being buffed by SLAYER

Structure
Village hall Town Hall City hall Capitol
Tavern Commodations
Mage Guild Magic Library (additional spells to mage guild)
Seminary (+1 knowledge once to each visiting hero) Self Access Learning Center (5% experiences for every experiences obtained  + 1% per level per each SALC in posessions)
University.. the place where you can BUY skills for heroes
Market Resource converter (ohe unit of resources (except gold) can trade exactly one units of others) Artifact Merchants (new artifacts for sale each week, trades artifacts except quest ones)
*unique structure for unique ability of this faction... i 'm not a fan of wizs so i don't know *

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landsknecht
landsknecht


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Askin' for war :p and payments
posted February 14, 2008 06:14 AM

Another stacked reply :ngewwwwwwww!:

If the game is meant to continue stories in ashan so...
Race: Naga
Town: The Hive? or should be the Complex?

Hero
MIGHT: Beastmaster
MAGIC: Shaman

to be contiued

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flackmandan
flackmandan


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Veni,Vidi,Vichi
posted February 14, 2008 09:35 PM

cool towns
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landsknecht
landsknecht


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posted February 15, 2008 05:00 AM
Edited by landsknecht at 05:00, 15 Feb 2008.

Artitechture... should be the mix between ancient central america and Angkor Wat

Creatures
Level1: Hummel Hummel Infestor (lays eggs on the opponents, the egg does debuffs, and if a creature in that stack dies by that debuff. one infestor will appear at the next stack with the same quantity of slain creatures), Hummel soldat (double attack, poisons opponent)
Dwelling: Hive
weak flyer, no enemy retalliation, resource gatherer (one unit of a random resources except gold per day per each you have in total)
Level2: Lizardman Lizard Warrior (no melee penalty) / Lizard Skirmisher (twice attack)
shooter, uses bows.
Dwelling: Lizardman colony
Level3: Snakeman Quoatl (defensive) / Cobraman (offensive)
charger, chances to remove opponent's buffs, may poision opponents
Dwelling: Snake pit
Level4: Monitor Basilisk / Salamander
Medium sized, tanker, may devour opponents.
Dwelling: Hatchery
Level5: Medusa Medusa Royale / Medusa Priestess (spellcaster)
Shooter, no melee penalty, petrify (to stone) opponents when melee (until a whole medusa stack is gone) except medusa royale, uses longbow.
Dwelling: Ruined temple.
Level6: Wyvern Duckwyrm (Twice attack) / Venowyrm (Burst attack)
Flyer, lesser dragons, has two legs instead of four, may poison opponents
Dwelling: Nest
Level7: Hydra Chaos hydra (ability to debuff enemy with confusion so the victim may attack nearest friendly units!) / Venom hydra (strong poison!)
Tanker, no enemy retalliation, attacks all adjacent enemy, regenerates over time
Dwelling: Hydra pond (Dark elves losts it's war against Naga pantheons, Naga ultimately liberated hydra from dark elves yokes, and later.. Hydra willingly joined naga as naga promised them a safe and natural haven)
Level8: Naga Divine Naga (buffs)/Malevolent Naga (debuffs)
Super shooter! also casts spells, throws naga ball! (think of what happened in october at Mekong river!!!), no enemy retaliation
Dwelling: The Grand Temple

PS. the name of the town will be changed to Angkor

support structure will come soon. i wll be off for two days on the weekend

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ElectricBunny
ElectricBunny


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posted February 15, 2008 08:13 PM

"Monitor"? Sounds kind of computerish to me...

but otherwise I think all your work is extremely cool! I've made up factions but never had time to develop them or write them down. I might now... thx to you

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


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Scouting the Multiverse
posted February 15, 2008 10:20 PM

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"Monitor"? Sounds kind of computerish to me...


Its a type of lizard, with frilly spines on its back. Rather large too.

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ElectricBunny
ElectricBunny


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posted February 16, 2008 08:09 PM
Edited by ElectricBunny at 20:12, 16 Feb 2008.

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"Monitor"? Sounds kind of computerish to me...


Its a type of lizard, with frilly spines on its back. Rather large too.



IS a monitor a real lizard or just something u made up? otherwise I think u should change the name. But if you don't want to, fine

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Infernal MAGIC hero: Sommoner, changed to Demonologist



Isn't the proper term 'demoniac'? And isn't it a MIGHT hero? But you can do whatever you like, I have a feeling it will still be good

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


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Scouting the Multiverse
posted February 16, 2008 08:17 PM

A monitor lizard is real. This is what it looks like.

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted February 16, 2008 10:52 PM

one more dragon as the ultimate acadely units instead of the titan? (I know the titan is unoriginal, but it has worked so far)

nagas stronger than hydras?

efreets in academy? it just seems too weird
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Andrelvis
Andrelvis


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posted February 17, 2008 12:15 AM

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Isn't the proper term 'demoniac'? And isn't it a MIGHT hero? But you can do whatever you like, I have a feeling it will still be good


The terms is right, a Demonologist is someone who studies demons, much more suited for being a magic hero.

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