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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Best 6 level creature
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Amaterasu
Amaterasu

Tavern Dweller
posted October 26, 2012 12:55 AM

I would prefer Dread Knight against everything else. But if it was a 1v1  battle between naga queen and dread knight naga queen has a pretty decent chance of victory since enemies cannot retaliation. Dread knights are more chance based(although this statement is wrong because gamewise undead is the most non-chance based faction since they cant get luck-morale bonuses) so ultimately i would prefer naga queen 1v1, but dread knight against everything else.
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looom
looom


Adventuring Hero
Flying High
posted November 20, 2012 05:30 PM

Since all of them are melee I think (ex. Cyclops, which I don't think is even built in the town anyway )
1v1 - Naga Queen because of no-retaliation

In a battle tho, I definitely prefer Efreet Sultans to anything else, because of their speed, fire shield and the fact that they are awesome against shooters.

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b0rsuk
b0rsuk


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Famous Hero
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posted November 20, 2012 05:41 PM
Edited by b0rsuk at 09:37, 21 Nov 2012.

To be precise, in a 1v1 fight between Naga Queens and Dread Knights, it depends almost entirely on Dread Knight's "luck". NQ's deal constant 30 damage. They might get bad morale from facing undead, that's all.

Has anyone tried using both Frenzy and Fire Shield on Naga Queens ? I understand that's a big temptation for Dispel or Blind. But even just Frenzy sounds nice on paper:

Naga Queen's damage multiplier against DK is (1 + ((16 - 18) * 0.025) = 0.95. DK has a multiplier, on average (due to death strike), (1 +  (18 - 13) * 0.025) * (1 + (0.2 * 2)) = 1.75 multiplier.
Death Knight's multiplier due to Death Strike is (1 + (0.2 * 2)) = 1.4 on average, of course it can be wildly unfair when it never triggers or triggers three times in a row. But I use an average multiplier to get an idea how much damage it deals.

With Expert Frenzy, Attack Skill is 3x while Defence Skill is 0. This means NQ has a multiplier of (1 + ((16*3 - 18) * 0.025)) = 2.5
while DK will have an average multiplier of (1 + (18 * 0.05)) * 1.4 = 2.66 . So Frenzy is only really worth it when you can deal crippling damage in a single attack.

When Naga Queens are enchanted with Expert Fire Shield and Frenzy, Fire Shield faces a 0.3 * (1 + (18 * 0.05)) = 0.57x damage reflection from fire shield. This means taking 0.57 * damage from fire shield, not reduced by defence skill. With Death Blow, it becomes 1.14x base damage reflected.
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Uruk-Hai
Uruk-Hai


Adventuring Hero
posted November 21, 2012 03:03 AM

Quote:
They might get bad morale from facing undead, that's all.


They can't get bad morale from facing any undead, you get bad morale from facing bone/ghost dragons.

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TaleOrgana
TaleOrgana


Known Hero
Unknown Warrior from the North
posted December 03, 2012 04:47 PM

Dread Knight,they are good at battles.
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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted December 03, 2012 07:19 PM

Ok

1. Champion (!!!?)
2.-4. DK, QN, ME (!!??)
5.-9. WU, CK, S, SE, WM (!???)

If you want see how DK is good, send me your email and I add on Unknown of Target map to you. Hm green sea etc SoD map..

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favio
favio


Hired Hero
posted December 10, 2012 02:38 PM

Wywerns anyway with their mass from hives.

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird


Hired Hero
The Caller of Lightning
posted February 07, 2013 02:46 PM

I think Anubis Warrior and Naga Queen is the strongest level 6 creatures

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fram
fram

Tavern Dweller
posted February 07, 2013 08:20 PM
Edited by fram at 21:25, 07 Feb 2013.

I love necro 6th level, unfoartunately never play them... Since I dislike low speed efreets are my next ones as pick.

le: ez to break naga bank, but think about when u could break a efreet bank.
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DarkDXZ
DarkDXZ


Known Hero
Haiku sensei
posted February 07, 2013 10:35 PM

Dread Knight.
Death Blow stacks with luck, unholy!
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gammacra
gammacra


Hired Hero
posted February 16, 2013 05:07 PM

Wyvern monarchs poison increase chance with a larger stack?

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Leon
Leon

Tavern Dweller
posted February 16, 2013 06:27 PM
Edited by Leon at 18:31, 16 Feb 2013.

Lets go..

Dread Knights are the best . double damage , speed is OK, Highest HP in lvl 6 , best attack & defense . those are the lvl 7 creatures killers

But my favorites are the War Unicorns . They tough , OK speed , super cheap , and Blind can be vey usefull . and I think they look awosome too

The worst are probably Wyverns or Cyclops , I like both , but if you have fast, strong creature , they can block Cyclops and they will go down , fast . also Its near to impossible to get them in the start , you can get behemoths before them !

You can get Wyverns pretty quickly , but again , they will go down fast because lack of attack & defense . Wyvern Monarch beat Cycolps King in 1 vs 1 , but Cycolps are way more usefull .

So :
Best - Dread Knight
Worst - Wyvern ( but I like them )
Favorite - War Unicorn

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Damacon_Ace
Damacon_Ace


Famous Hero
Also known as Nobris Agni
posted May 04, 2013 05:59 AM

It's a tight race up the top between the Naga Queen and the Dread Knight. Overall the Dread Knight is stronger, has the ability to curse the opponent and have that dreaded double damage death attack. However the Naga has really strong damage (30), and have the added benefit of no enemy retaliation. Whereas the Dread Knight's special ability is luck dependent. Therefore I will rate them equal first since I can't really discern who is the better of the two to be honest.

=1. Dread Knight
=1. Naga Queen
3. Champion - yes I know, but their charge attack can do heaps of damage
4. Efreet Sultan - they're very fast!
5. Magic Elemental - multi attack and no retaliation
6. War Unicorn - Strong and can blind the opposition
7. Cyclops King - Attacking siege walls is nice
8. Scorpiocore - Fast, but weak.
9. Wyvern Monarch - Quite Lame. At least you can get them early.
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espen15
espen15


Famous Hero
posted May 07, 2013 08:29 PM

Dread knight is the best imo

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favio
favio


Hired Hero
posted May 16, 2013 11:41 AM

Wywerns are best, guys, cause they are mass.
The strength of Fortress is random map, where are their hives. On fixed map Fortress hasnt real strength.

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Nybbas
Nybbas

Tavern Dweller
Flipmode Player
posted June 08, 2013 08:23 PM

Dread Knight

Just like with Tier #4, NECRO has the best one by far in my opinion. This is balancing for the worst Tier #2 and a really worthless Tier #3, the developers definitely made D. Knights to give them Undead players a fighting chance.

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monere
monere


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted June 25, 2013 07:38 PM

Quote:
Dread Knights are the best . double damage , speed is OK, Highest HP in lvl 6 , best attack & defense . those are the lvl 7 creatures killers

But my favorites are the War Unicorns . They tough , OK speed , super cheap , and Blind can be vey usefull . and I think they look awosome too

The worst are probably Wyverns or Cyclops , I like both , but if you have fast, strong creature , they can block Cyclops and they will go down , fast . also Its near to impossible to get them in the start , you can get behemoths before them !

You can get Wyverns pretty quickly , but again , they will go down fast because lack of attack & defense . Wyvern Monarch beat Cycolps King in 1 vs 1 , but Cycolps are way more usefull .

So :
Best - Dread Knight
Worst - Wyvern ( but I like them )
Favorite - War Unicorn


I like your post

And here's my opinion

Best - Dread Knight
Worst - Scorpicore
Favorite - Dread Knight (they're the one and only reason I play otherwise op-ed Necro town). I love too much how DKs look like, and when I see that "death blow" sword showing up on the enemy target... well, I'm in Haven

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Richard_Chen
Richard_Chen


Adventuring Hero
posted January 28, 2014 06:59 AM

Wyvern Monarch & Dread Knight

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Humanoid
Humanoid


Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Rest in Peace Juvia (48-499)
posted January 28, 2014 07:59 AM

Cyclops king

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xlnt
xlnt


Known Hero
posted January 28, 2014 08:49 AM

Wyvern by far

comes turn1...

naga queen 2nd - it's just a beast - can kill what other can never dream of, but needs some magical help (haste)

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