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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Worst upgrade in Heroes III
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Homer171
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posted April 22, 2008 12:30 PM

Skeleton Warriors
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Gurnisson
Gurnisson


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posted April 22, 2008 01:22 PM

Skeleton Warriors are not bad, 1 attack, 2 defense and 1 speed for 10 gold.

But that you only get 2/3 of Necromancy skill makes them a bit worse(If you don't have a free stack for their non-upgraded comrades and can upgrade them pretty often)

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Ecoris
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posted April 22, 2008 03:11 PM

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BTW - Ecoris can give you more details about AI
Like what?
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liophy
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posted April 22, 2008 05:13 PM

uh, i dont know. but i think you posted some more details about the decicion of the AI in wich case what stack attacks. depending of the dmg inflicted and retaliation received.

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Gurnisson
Gurnisson


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posted April 22, 2008 06:28 PM
Edited by Gurnisson at 18:31, 22 Apr 2008.

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As I said...come to gamespy and show your skills


I don't know how you do it, I have the Heroes III complete version but the game isn't one of the options in Gamespy.
Only Restoration of Erathia I think it was.

Im playing with friends over LAN-cables when I want to play with others

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Lexxan
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posted April 22, 2008 06:34 PM
Edited by Lexxan at 18:43, 22 Apr 2008.

The worst upg must be the horned demon.

not enough difference for a too large price. Worst bargain ever !

This adds up to what ecoris and angelito said about demon harvesting (which I hardly ever use).

I only upgrade them because they otherwise are too slow for the end-game and because they otherwise look so harmless compared to magogs and Efreet Sultans
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Gurnisson
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posted April 22, 2008 06:42 PM

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The worst upg must be the horned demon.


It's a little upgrade, but it is not expensive.

The worst is Cyclops Kings

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angelito
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posted April 22, 2008 07:59 PM

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As I said...come to gamespy and show your skills


I don't know how you do it, I have the Heroes III complete version but the game isn't one of the options in Gamespy.
Only Restoration of Erathia I think it was.

Im playing with friends over LAN-cables when I want to play with others
Look here.
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Gurnisson
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posted April 22, 2008 08:37 PM

I got to admit that the Pit Lords were a little mistake. If you have diplomacy or it is a map with many towns(where you can pick up lame units) demon-harvesting will prove usefull.

But, Cyclops Kings are the worst upgrade, waaaay to expensive!

I will try to play over Gamespy or TCP/IP then

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nurul
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posted April 22, 2008 10:17 PM

Cyclops king is good creature. You can destroy enemy citadel and castle in one round with experet ballistic and cyclop kings.

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Gurnisson
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posted April 22, 2008 10:31 PM

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Cyclops king is good creature. You can destroy enemy citadel and castle in one round with experet ballistic and cyclop kings.


Yeah, they can break down the walls with double speed, but is it worth it? You can afford 3 regular cyclops for the price of two kings and 3 cyclops are much better. It's way to exspensive. If you don't have ballistics and are playing against a player, it will prove useful with one extra throw. But 350 gold to upgrade one? It's crazy, and my god, it's not worth it!

They're good creature yes, but regular cyclops are too and they're cheap

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Ecoris
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posted April 23, 2008 08:42 AM
Edited by Ecoris at 08:42, 23 Apr 2008.

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uh, i dont know. but i think you posted some more details about the decicion of the AI in wich case what stack attacks. depending of the dmg inflicted and retaliation received.
I have not looked into such matters myself but I know that other people have. I think it was quite complex and that there were no definite answers. Experience is probably the best way to go.
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liophy
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posted April 23, 2008 10:48 AM
Edited by liophy at 11:12, 23 Apr 2008.



Yes - Cyclop Kings are one of the worst upgrades.

Very rarely final battles happens in siege. If it goes like that - you simply flag the opponent external dwellings, mines, other towns and so on, you get all stats boosters on the map, you get all artifacts and sooner or latter game will be over.

So only 2 speed and 2 attack for so much money is not worth it.

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Gurnisson
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posted April 23, 2008 04:10 PM

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So only 2 speed and 2 attack for so much money is not worth it.


Actually, you get one defense as well, but the upgrade stinks anyway.

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Keev
Keev

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posted April 23, 2008 04:35 PM

Magogs- the upgrade usually does no good at all...

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thinkminiq
thinkminiq


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posted April 23, 2008 04:52 PM

I think Magog upgrade not bad. +2 speed, +1 attacak, shoots double and they have specials. But yes Magog is not good creature but they god than gogs.
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Gurnisson
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posted April 23, 2008 05:04 PM

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I think Magog upgrade not bad. +2 speed, +1 attacak, shoots double and they have specials. But yes Magog is not good creature but they god than gogs.


50 gold for speed, 1 attack and fireball? That's not good, when the fireball is more like a backfire than usfeull.
Though I like the speed.

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thinkminiq
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posted April 23, 2008 07:56 PM

Yes that' not good and not bad. This upgrade is average but Magogs are average creature too
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Gurnisson
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posted April 23, 2008 08:13 PM
Edited by Gurnisson at 20:14, 23 Apr 2008.

I prefer gogs, they're a lot cheaper and I hate to not be able to throw because I will hit my own creature if so.
The 2 speed is nice though, and I miss magogs when I spot a place to make use of the fireball.

Before you buy them, think about it. A weeks growth of those guys costs 800 gold more than their non-upgraded comrades

140 gogs are better than 100 magogs and they go for the same price

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angelito
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posted April 23, 2008 08:30 PM

Magogs are not relevant, coz u turn your gogs into demons anyway..
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