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friendofgunnar
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posted July 23, 2009 07:01 AM |
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I was lol at this from Asheera's link
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Hulk defies science but, he does so with science. His Gamma fueled strength may be of infinite proportions but, Juggernaut is magically powered.
I was about to make a post about hulk but this summarized it pretty well:
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Because Hulk is so popular with a very specific demographic, the character is constantly and unfortunately being written poorly and/or being given upgrades to make the character top-tier.
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Society99
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posted July 23, 2009 12:38 PM |
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Hulk invincible? Nope. First I heard he is vulnerable to sonic attacks, and 2nd Juggernaut is superior to Hulk. An interesting quote too, which shows it's not biased opinion but rather 'official':Quote:
Moreover, the official word at Marvel is that Juggernaut is Hulks superior in the strength department but don't tell that to the Hulk staff, lol.
I hope that answers the question in enough detail. And please, check with Marvel to see that the answer is backed by the guys who bring you the books.
So Hulk not being invincible and so unstoppable as you said still doesn't really tell that he'll be a clear victor against Hercules.
The reason to why i never brought Juggernaut into mention is because he's also touched by other aspects The Hulk's Physical capacities cannot match. Not sure if you read it all, but i mentioned that Hulk would not be able to defeat the "Genie" villains .. (God i wish i rememvered their names!) since they have abilities unknown to everyone, even Marvel. Marvel hasn't made a clear line where Juggernauts limits peak either, so it's rather silly to compare  (and who are we kidding, the juggernaut is a villain with several more abilities and unknown feats due to magical factors  )
But yes, if we were to measure The Juggernaut and The Hulk, The Juggernaut might win, but on the other hand, that would be as fair as to compare a fight between The Juggernaut and Exitar the Exterminator or a powered Galactus
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted July 23, 2009 03:25 PM |
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I think it's fair to say (I'm assuming Joonas will agree with me here) that we have a clear winner:
SAMUS ARAN
Which puts the score at
Female 2
Male 1
!!!
I will refer you to Joonas (if he wishes) for a write up on the exhibition tournament, Male vs Female.
Meanwhile:
WHO WOULD WIN????!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
ROUND EIGHTEEN:
Mickey Mouse
vs.
Mick Jagger
One is a giant mouse with very strange features (including giant round ears) and many consider him to be the most famous cartoon character ever, however most overlook his hidden vicious nature when put in a cage match.
The other is an aged rockstar (also with rather strange features) of Rolling Stones fame and many consider him to be exceptionally badass and one of the coolest people ever.
It is rumoured that he cannot be killed by conventional weapons 
Let the fight begin!
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted July 23, 2009 03:36 PM |
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Vangelis21
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posted July 23, 2009 04:29 PM |
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mickey mouse. he is animated. in general i think every fight between a mortal and an animation is unfair 
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del_diablo
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posted July 23, 2009 04:31 PM |
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The human would win.
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TheDeath
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posted July 23, 2009 04:33 PM |
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Gordon Freeman is not in any fights in this thread, and is completely off topic.
There is a reason for that, because he is a joke and would die in two seconds against Master Chief because he's just some dude with glasses. Crowbar no effect. Gordon Freeman would lose to everyone in this thread (with the possible exception of a pear).
Case closed. No more fanboy spam! Go to gamespot if you want to talk about him.
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lucky_dwarf
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posted July 23, 2009 09:11 PM |
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mickey mouse. he is animated.
gotta agree with that one, if youd drop a safe on the rockstar, he wouldent be able to crawl out, mickie mouse on the other hand...
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LordGodric
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posted July 23, 2009 10:46 PM |
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mickey has expert blood rage! - didnt you know his a gobllin desigued?
he would win!
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Mytical
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posted July 23, 2009 10:51 PM |
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The Singer, he would just erase/use paint remover/whatever and delete Mickey. 
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Society99
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posted July 24, 2009 12:59 PM |
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Mikey. The way he beats up all his foes in the cartoons is just epic.
Jagger's brunch for mikey!
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Minion
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posted July 24, 2009 01:19 PM |
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Mickey. He is evil incarnated. Haha.
Mickey Mouse now
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blizzardboy
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posted July 25, 2009 11:59 AM |
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted July 25, 2009 12:34 PM |
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It looks like the winner is Mickey Mouse!
next fight...
WHO WOULD WIN????!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
ROUND NINETEEN:
Warcraft Orc
vs.
Uruk-Hai
An original Orc from Lord of the Rings, in its most badass Uruk-Hai form, or an Orc from the Warcraft universe, as seen in games such as Warcraft III, and made infamous by WoW.
Uruk-Hai are "super-soldier" Orcs bred by Saruman, wielding short broad bladed swords, bows, and sporting body armor.
Orcs "are one of the most prolific races of Azeroth. Born on the world of Draenor, the orcs were brought to Azeroth through the dimensional gateway known as the Dark Portal and waged war on the humans while under the influence of the Burning Legion."
It seems that Uruk-Hai, although generally larger, are closer to humans in size and build than the Warcraft Orcs, and as such the Warcraft Orc might have might on its side. However, the Uruk-Hai are arguably the most ferocious and dangerous warriors in all of Middle Earth, bred to kill.
Let the fight begin!
Updated Winners list on page 25
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Mytical
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posted July 25, 2009 12:38 PM |
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Now this is a super tough one. Normally I would say Uruk-Hai hands down, they are super mean, but Thrall(?) was one crazily powerful Orc. If we are going by 'average' I would say Uruk-Hai.
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted July 25, 2009 12:40 PM |
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Yes it is your average Uruk-Hai warrior (ie. not Lurtz or anyone) and also your run of the mill orc warrior (ie. not Thrall or anyone with a fancy name). 
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DagothGares
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posted July 25, 2009 12:40 PM |
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In the opening cinematic of warcraft III we see an orc going head to head with a human, and though the human was wearing armour, their strength seemed pretty much equal. Uruk-hai are wearing heavy plate armour since birth and have incredible muscle mass that can not be compared with humans. Their intelligence is below average, except for certain individuals like lurtz. Now, lurtz would certainly beat all orcs, except that guy wielding mjolnir...
But a regular uruk-hai... I think that in a regular one-on-one fight intelligence isn't the most important factor, so I vote uruk-hai.
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Society99
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posted July 25, 2009 12:46 PM |
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Orc from WoW/Wc3. In all the cinematic effects the Orcs flurry attacks like madmen and they still have an eager faceexpression after 50 hits. They've got "Rage" skill & axe mastery, as well as a chance to make critical damage. Also they've almost got muscles to be compared to the muscles of a tauren.
Besides, the Uruks are pretty much only bred to life and given a sword. The blizz orcs are mean mofo's that's been trained for years
Plain; Orc from Blizz
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lucky_dwarf
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posted July 25, 2009 01:59 PM |
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i have to say orcs.
I mean uruk-hai are pretty bad@$$ yes, but even if they were bred for combat, it means that their loyalty level will be pretty low.
In other words, Uruk-hai dont care who they kill for, as long as they kill something. They would probably kill theyre own master, they wouldn't care
On the other hand, you never really mentioned if the orc is a demon orc or just regular.
A demon orc would smash an uruk to the ground, no time.
Even a regular one, though not as strong, will beat them using mind games/terrain.
If your trained to kill, it really gets under your skin if someone is begging you to kill them but dances inches out of your reach.
Then when they get close, the uruk trows a mad lunge and finds an axe embedded in its neck(Tolkien said something about that spot being theire armors weak spot.)
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DagothGares
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posted July 25, 2009 02:05 PM |
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A regular orc, lucky, not a demon. I mean, uruks have a dark variety among them as well, namely the uruk berserkers who wield a great two-handed cleaver.
And uruks would be pretty immune to mind games, since they're bred to be mindless (no psychological factor in things that have no mind) killers. They just obey the mad sorcerer that engineered them, just come closer and they go chop chop! And an orc axe has less reach of course. of course, there's actually no true way of knowing, because they don't make realistic images or art of warcraft orcs.
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