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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Heroes 5 phylogenetics
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Asheera
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posted July 12, 2008 09:26 PM

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He looks more like a zombie. or a really fat human.
Zombie = fat undead human with no intelligence and will.
Orson = fat undead human with intelligence and will. He may look like a zombie, but it's NOT, since zombie implies no brains.

Being a zombie isn't just the appearance and the fact that you're undead, but also that you have no mind.

Just my two cents.
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Cepheus
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posted July 12, 2008 09:31 PM

I'll explain something on this Zombie = Mindless thing which might hint otherwise.

Vladimir is likely a Zombie hero.  This assumption comes from the fact that his internal, data-file name is "Pelt".  And guess what, Pelt is the name of Giovanni's Zombie sidekick from Hammers of Fate - it's not an immediate connection but it does suggest that Zombies, while possibly mindless, can lead armies

Also if you are not a Zombie, yet you're undead and your flesh is rotting off your face, then what exactly are you?  Zombie = Undead human retaining their dead flesh, not necessarily 100% brainless (though usually brain-dead, yes).

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Asheera
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posted July 12, 2008 09:39 PM

Ok, thanks for clarifying that

But we need some kind of new "name" for those not-mindless zombies (like the Lich is named different than the Skeleton)
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Cepheus
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posted July 12, 2008 10:07 PM

No problem

Hmm, maybe Revenants or Sentient Dead would work?

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Darkshadow
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posted July 12, 2008 10:33 PM
Edited by Darkshadow at 22:34, 12 Jul 2008.

Revenants can apply to wights, death knights and vampires. But not liches or incorporeals.Sentient dead would apply to all so its better.
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xerox
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posted July 12, 2008 10:39 PM

From what i have read, a Revenant is someone that has returned from the dead because of venegance.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted July 13, 2008 11:38 PM
Edited by Gnoll_Mage at 23:42, 13 Jul 2008.

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@GnollMage:
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And where did that Phoenix plural come from?
Hmm, I checked the online dictionary and it doesn't even say the plural... how should we call them?

Since in its traditional sense there was ever only one of them there isn't any technical plural, so I guess Phoenixes or Phoenix.

Alc, nice thread btw. I feel that in a world with dragons, gods and magic sometimes it hurts your brain a bit if you think too hard, but it's fun to try.
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alcibiades
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posted July 14, 2008 07:18 AM

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Alc, nice thread btw. I feel that in a world with dragons, gods and magic sometimes it hurts your brain a bit if you think too hard, but it's fun to try.


Yes, it's a fun thought experiment.

As for the gramatics, plural of Phoenix is Phoenii. I don't know if it's a "made up" word, but that's the way it's always been.
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Cepheus
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posted August 03, 2008 03:25 PM

Sorry for my necromantic ways but I have to clear up this Thane business, using a comment from Fabrice I finally managed to dig up:

"One of the dwarf units is a giant dwarf indeed – ending up as quite a normal height. We are talking about the Thane, who is a clan elder, a warrior imbued with magical abilities. They actually need to be quite big if they want to be able to wield the huge axe they carry around. This axe is imbued with magical runes of thunder and his allows them to add a chain lightning effect to each of their strike or to cast once per battle a Storm Bolt attack."

Thus, they are indeed giant dwarves and the only explanation we receive is "they grew to accomodate the size of their axe"
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Jiriki9
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posted August 03, 2008 03:39 PM

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As for the gramatics, plural of Phoenix is Phoenii. I don't know if it's a "made up" word, but that's the way it's always been.


Phoenix is also a Latin word isn't it? So Phoenii is probably the Latin plural, I guess! (Phoenix / or something like phoenicus? - Phoenii like portic-us portic-i...)

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Lexxan
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posted August 03, 2008 03:47 PM

It's Phoenix (pronounced "foiniks"), genitive in Phoenicis. Latin Plural Rules state that the plural of Phoenix is "Phoenices"
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