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razor5
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Freezing...
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posted September 09, 2008 09:22 PM |
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The next puzzle will be this week? I'l wait for it
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keldorn
Promising
Known Hero
that casts green flames
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posted September 10, 2008 02:07 PM |
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Edited by keldorn at 14:08, 10 Sep 2008.
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The next puzzle is coming right now 
This is a helpmate too, so we know the details: black to move, you control both players, white mates black at move 4 (which is white's 3rd move in fact)
Be careful with this one! Harder than it seems.
An important thing you MUST notice: ??? (will be told later  )
Without the hint above it is hard to solve the puzzle, but try it. But if i revealed it now, the puzzle would be no match for a chess player. I hope you understand it
Good luck.
P.S.: Good to be back. 
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 10, 2008 02:10 PM |
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To all those that can't see it, it is this one:
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 10, 2008 02:44 PM |
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I found it
H2-B8
D1-B2
B4-C3
O-O-O
B8-B4
D1-D3#
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted September 10, 2008 02:49 PM |
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Quote:
O-O-O
Wow that must be a really "special" move
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antipaladin
Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
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posted September 10, 2008 02:52 PM |
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Quote:
I found it
H2-B8
D1-B2
B4-C3
O-O-O
B8-B4
D1-D3#
king cant escape back to b4?
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted September 10, 2008 02:56 PM |
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Black moved the Queen there before 
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 10, 2008 03:07 PM |
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Took me some time to figure out that Knight where to move, and first I was thinking of the King to go in the corner.
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keldorn
Promising
Known Hero
that casts green flames
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posted September 10, 2008 05:13 PM |
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Edited by keldorn at 17:13, 10 Sep 2008.
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WoW Ash! You solved it without knowing the hint 
You are starting to be a grandmaster
Why did I say that it is important to know the trick? Because if the board was flipped, the puzzle wouldn't be solvable. The key move is O-O-O (castle queenside). Ash managed to find it without complication. You needed to take a better look at the board: You must have noticed the ranks' and files' characters are reversed. Excellent job.
Will post a more difficult one today.
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Asheera
Honorable
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Elite Assassin
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posted September 10, 2008 05:14 PM |
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Ash managed to find it without complication. You needed to take a better look at the board: You must have noticed the ranks' and files' characters are reversed. Excellent job.
Wow
Actually I didn't notice that, I just somehow "considered" that White starts up
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keldorn
Promising
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that casts green flames
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posted September 10, 2008 05:21 PM |
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Edited by keldorn at 17:21, 10 Sep 2008.
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Well, the fact that white is situated on the last rank instead of the first, might have been confusing, so you can still be proud of yourself
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antipaladin
Promising
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of Ooohs and Aaahs
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posted September 10, 2008 06:00 PM |
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i still wantto play with you,and i dont understand the logic of helpmate.
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keldorn
Promising
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that casts green flames
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posted September 10, 2008 06:56 PM |
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Well, helpmate is not logical, but is good as a mind strecher.
About our match: later please...
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keldorn
Promising
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that casts green flames
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posted September 10, 2008 07:51 PM |
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A somewhat new definition is serial-helpmate.
This means that black still helps white, but black has many moves before white moves. Just an example:
"Black to move, serial-helpmate in 13"- means that black makes 13 moves in a row (without white moves) and after the 13th move, white mates black immediately, in one move. So in fact it is mate in one, but only after a series of moves.
Your first serial-helpmate puzzle to solve is the following:
Black to move, S-HM in 17.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted September 10, 2008 07:56 PM |
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Don't you think that is a bit too hard for our students here, Keldorn? I know that kind of puzzle is just one-side predicting, but 17 moves?
I am totally completely late with my part and once again I have to apologize cuz I.. well.. kind of forgot about it last time 
but hey, I'm not done yet!
GL with the new puzzle
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 10, 2008 07:58 PM |
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Can you give check to the King in one of these moves?
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 10, 2008 07:59 PM |
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Move the king to e8 promote pawn to rook and move it one down then round the king back to the corner and move rook to h7.
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keldorn
Promising
Known Hero
that casts green flames
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posted September 10, 2008 07:59 PM |
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Edited by keldorn at 20:02, 10 Sep 2008.
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Well, doom, despite their length, SHMs are usually easy to solve. This one isn't an exception either. Requires skills and some time, but absolutely solvable
I believe Ash will find no problems solving it, nor do you, Doom. You can try to solve it this time
EDIT: No, you can't give check, and Joonas. Not bad idea, but tell me the exact sequence of moves, as it is hard to decide whether its good or not.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted September 10, 2008 08:10 PM |
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I decided I won't solve any puzzles, since it kinda ruins my job as your apprentice
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 10, 2008 08:17 PM |
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a1-a2
a2-a3
a3-b4
b4-c3
c3-d3
d3-e2
e2-e1
f2-f1=R
f1-f2
e1-e2
e2-d3
d3-c3
c3-b4
b4-a3
a3-a2
a2-a1
f2-a2
a5-b3#
or is it too long?
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