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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: Adding Creatures in ToE 3.1
Thread: Adding Creatures in ToE 3.1 This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
TSoD
TSoD


Promising
Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
posted February 11, 2009 07:25 PM

Indeed, where are they ?
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NCFBank,
the complete and homogen NCF
library.

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted February 11, 2009 10:35 PM

yes huh? where?




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Devsho
Devsho

Tavern Dweller
posted February 12, 2009 10:07 AM

With this new version the editor crashes every time i try to load a map... How can i fox it?

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted February 12, 2009 10:35 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 22:47, 12 Feb 2009.

Thanks to pandora for QP.

Quote:
With this new version the editor crashes every time i try to load a map... How can i fox it?


The bug is surely more in a NCF you have and the map have too than directly from the map.

Can you give me a link to the map, please, I want to load it myself.

You can too re-download NCF from link of the main list to get a up-to-date. Some bugs about Editor can be repair like it.



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SimonaK
SimonaK


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted February 13, 2009 10:53 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 05:50, 14 Mar 2009.

I edited master post to add this notice:

to see NCFs in the Editor, the NCF's mods must be localized in data folder with .pak format

or go here:

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=29194


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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
posted April 24, 2009 07:41 PM

Can I make a NCF Creature Without the NCF 3.1?

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SimonaK
SimonaK


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 24, 2009 07:44 PM

No,

only the NCF 3.1 framework opens the creature slots (number) above of these of original ones (180)

you can make a NCF creature but never you will be able to use it without the framework.


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sylvian_prince
sylvian_prince


Hired Hero
the ranged hanter
posted May 13, 2009 12:18 PM

im only now understand what is the ncf project and what he gave
(2 long years withuot it )now i want to try him and it didn't work!
i'v downloaded the files:
New Creatures Framework 3.1
Nelgirith Creatures
and placed them as ordered:
H5_Game.NCF - my game folder/bin
H5_MapEditor.NCF - my game folder/bin
NCF__Core (pack file) - my game folder/data

now when i try to enter the game by clicking on "H5_Game.NCF"
i get the next error:
" This application failed to start because um.dll was not found.
re-installing the application may fix this problem "

what i did wrong? what can be the problem? and how i make it work?

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted May 13, 2009 11:16 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 23:16, 13 May 2009.

Quote:
im only now understand what is the ncf project and what he gave
(2 long years withuot it )now i want to try him and it didn't work!
i'v downloaded the files:
New Creatures Framework 3.1
Nelgirith Creatures
and placed them as ordered:
H5_Game.NCF - my game folder/bin
H5_MapEditor.NCF - my game folder/bin
NCF__Core (pack file) - my game folder/data

now when i try to enter the game by clicking on "H5_Game.NCF"
i get the next error:
" This application failed to start because um.dll was not found.
re-installing the application may fix this problem "

what i did wrong? what can be the problem? and how i make it work?




Hello, I'm sorry you have this bug but I think that has not a link with NCF project.

all I know is um.dll is a library must have to be in bin folder of the game.


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BAD
BAD


Promising
Known Hero
posted July 14, 2009 10:57 AM

Nice topic

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Kjara
Kjara

Tavern Dweller
posted September 26, 2009 08:22 AM
Edited by Kjara at 08:23, 26 Sep 2009.

Random vista question:  When I run TOE or the TOE editor with the NCF executable I'm getting a crash on random map generation(either using a template from RTMG, using a default template, or no template at all.  Anyone have any experience getting this to work on vista?  Thanks

Edit: I installed the mega pack and NCF_core into the data dir as well.

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VokialBG
VokialBG


Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
posted September 26, 2009 09:07 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 09:07, 26 Sep 2009.

Try with SimonaKs RMG. Or its the one you're using? If yes, just ask him. If no, well just try it.
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Kjara
Kjara

Tavern Dweller
posted September 26, 2009 09:28 AM

This was in the inbetween step for using his program(where you feed the template to the h5 built in random map generator).  I've figured out a fix that usually works(crashes about 1/3rd of the time or so).  If you generate the map in the non-NCF'ed map editor, it seems to work(and since his program is the one adding the ncf creatures, you still get them).

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SimonaK
SimonaK


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 26, 2009 05:10 PM

The generation of a random map into Heroes V can just be done with the original exes.
RMG's H5 from NCF exes doesn't simply work and never worked. That is known since beginning.

RMG's H5 is not able to add NCFs.

So we must use original exe for creating and NCF exe for playing when NCF Framework is installed.

Following template creation, RTMG calls original Game exe to allow the user to create the map.
later once the RTMG map generated, RTMG will call NCF Game exe (if at least one NCF was imported) to
play in the map.

for RTMG, Editor and NCF Editor are used to open, edit and save but not to generate.

moreover RTMG never been tested on Vista.

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Kjara
Kjara

Tavern Dweller
posted September 26, 2009 07:38 PM

Ah, wasn't clear to me from what I read that I should have been using the original h5 executable(s) for generating the map.  I'd suggest an an update somewhere (the manual?) making that more explicit.  However, barring the occasional crash(likely due to vista issues), it does seem to work, so thanks for the program .

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted September 26, 2009 07:40 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 19:51, 26 Sep 2009.

Quote:
Ah, wasn't clear to me from what I read that I should have been using the original h5 executable(s) for generating the map. I'd suggest an an update somewhere (the manual?) making that more explicit.

yep that's true. I don't know why I didn't think to it.

I edited RTMG 1.5 master post to add the info.

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sportsfreund20
sportsfreund20

Tavern Dweller
posted October 08, 2009 10:56 AM
Edited by sportsfreund20 at 10:58, 08 Oct 2009.

summary

hello folks!

i just want to summarize now what i have to do, when i or somebody else use windows vista ( its the home premium edition in my case):

- I have to download the New Creatures Framework for TOE 3.1("Nelgirith Creatures" is not necessary because somebody wrote here that he downloaded it too)

- i put the files in the right folder like written before
(not in the homm5 original folder but in the bin and data folder of ToTE)

- before all: of cause I have to install the patch 3.1 for ToTE

(- in my case i installed patch 1.6 for Original Homm5 too)

..if that is all right...what do i have to do next that it will work??

the creatures wont show up in a new game and the editor doesnt know
them as well...is it because i have Homm 5 collectors edition?

best regards, and congrats to the great mod!

SF20
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demonpheonix
demonpheonix


Hired Hero
zombie
posted June 09, 2010 05:07 PM
Edited by demonpheonix at 17:08, 09 Jun 2010.

editor problem

I cannot find any of the NCF creatures in the editor.  I have windows XP, and I installed the NCF framework, NCF megapack, and RMTG.  I modified a map with the RMTG, and the creatures it placed there show up fine in the editor, but I cant find any of them in the toolbar.  I followed all of simonaks instructions (no other mods, all ncf files in data as .pak, etc), and tried his suggestions, but it didnt help
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SimonaK
SimonaK


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 09, 2010 11:07 PM

ok....

back to the NCF megapack thread and look for the step 2

Quote:
2 - Download the Installation tool by TSoD (6mg) allowing to you to install the desired language, icons and others options.

you will get NCF stuff from the editor with that.


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mchotdog
mchotdog

Tavern Dweller
posted October 18, 2010 04:20 AM

How do I install if i have the collector's edition?
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