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Thread: [NCF Based]NCF Power Calculator - Software This thread is 5 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 · «PREV / NEXT»
Asheera
Asheera


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posted October 28, 2008 11:10 PM
Edited by Asheera at 23:13, 28 Oct 2008.

Yes I know, formulas can't possibly be very accurate. As I said in another thread, a No Enemy Retaliation ability is a lot more important (and powerful) to a fragile unit than a tank (high HP) unit, because being fragile means that it should receive as little damage as possible. That was just one of many examples of such cases.

But of course the formulas and this program are a good start.
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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted October 28, 2008 11:17 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 23:27, 28 Oct 2008.

Quote:
formulas can't possibly be very accurate


that depends which formulas.

If it's exact Nival uses a algo, their formulas can be accurate.

Quote:
But of course the formulas and this program are a good start.


Ohh.. you're absolutely right

I encourage to search the best way to keep calculation balance with original creatures stats calculations.




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TSoD
TSoD


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posted October 29, 2008 10:25 AM
Edited by TSoD at 10:25, 29 Oct 2008.

Aaaaah
It works

As mentionned in the 'About' button, you can all ask for source code : it is an open-source program.

Zip containing all my project on Visual C++ 2008 :
Here.

If you can upgrade the source code Asheera, do it I'm not a perfect coder ! I'm just 17 years old
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Asheera
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posted October 29, 2008 04:40 PM

Ok this code confuses me

Because I never programmed in .NET and don't know about that. Also, I hate namespaces and other C++ stuff, I'm more towards C. C++ is just too high-level and bloated with all those 'inheritances' and other stuff for my taste, which can be achieved with C as well but much more cleaner (at least in my opinion)
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TSoD
TSoD


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posted October 29, 2008 05:33 PM

Baaah you know, train a bit with managed c++ and you'll be able to script.
For me, I can practice this c++ easily, but don't ask me to understand the theory...
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Warmonger
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posted January 15, 2009 09:04 AM
Edited by Warmonger at 09:04, 15 Jan 2009.

Just made it working.

Calculator returns error when I choose tier 8 - the table is too small.

Also, have no idea why the tier determines creature's power in any way?

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Gnoll_Mage
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posted January 15, 2009 02:31 PM

Yes, you might think that power would be something absolute across all levels, but in fact, it is only really meaningful to compare creature power levels for creatures of the same level, since the level does change the value, in a seemingly arbitrary way (iirc).
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TSoD
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posted January 15, 2009 05:19 PM

It is used in the program for the tables of stats. I stopped the table at level 7 because Alcibiades did so. And remember, it him who is at the origin of the formulas, then ask for him for level 8 stats
But I think he can't do it, because the formulas and tables use middle value of each stats from each creature of this level. Then level 8... ???
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KassTel-Necris
KassTel-Necris

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posted April 13, 2010 02:02 PM

Really like this tool, awesome for balance
but have some question about Other (Moderate ability, disadvantage etc.) can some one list this ability and disadvantages?
also I don't see MP in power calculation, how to calculate it?


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TSoD
TSoD


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NCF Blacksmith
posted April 15, 2010 09:04 PM

You should ask to Alcibiades, it's him who made the calculation tables. I only put it together to make an executable program... If someone can answer you, it's him.

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KassTel-Necris
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posted April 17, 2010 03:38 PM

Quote:
You should ask to Alcibiades, it's him who made the calculation tables. I only put it together to make an executable program... If someone can answer you, it's him.

Thanks for reply, I will do it

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Psatkha
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posted July 20, 2010 01:26 PM
Edited by Psatkha at 13:28, 20 Jul 2010.

Hi all!

It is NEW variant of calculator by Stetnoel! This calculator is based on formulas by Nargott!

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TSoD
TSoD


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NCF Blacksmith
posted July 20, 2010 07:01 PM

Cool ! Mine was a bit old and uncomplete
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Psatkha
Psatkha


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posted July 21, 2010 05:02 PM

No body don't tried this calculator yet ?!

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hellburn
hellburn


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posted August 02, 2010 09:33 AM



Hardly can test anything in current state...

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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posted August 02, 2010 07:09 PM

indeed. same thing here.

I suggest a better interface.

ex: a checklistbox containing all abilities.

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hellburn
hellburn


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posted August 02, 2010 07:51 PM

BTW I often get this error:

Run-time error '6':

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Psatkha
Psatkha


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posted August 02, 2010 10:41 PM

Quote:
BTW I often get this error:

Run-time error '6':

Overflow


I need your full description about it!

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Hellburn
Hellburn


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posted August 03, 2010 09:03 AM

For example:
I gave to the Calculator emerald dragon stats and ticked his special abilities then and when I clicked "calculate" I got this error. To be sure what was causing it I ticked no special ability and wrote "1" in every box, random elementals. Then (as long as it was fine) I added new values to random boxes at a time (31 attack -> calculate -> 27 def -> calculate etc.). When I got to the health box, it crashed again.
To be 100% sure I repeated the process, but filled the health box first. At this time, calculator crashed at giving the creature tier 7.

To sum up, I have a feeling that I get this error randomly...
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Psatkha
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posted August 03, 2010 02:16 PM

Quote:
For example:
I gave to the Calculator emerald dragon stats and ticked his special abilities then and when I clicked "calculate" I got this error. To be sure what was causing it I ticked no special ability and wrote "1" in every box, random elementals. Then (as long as it was fine) I added new values to random boxes at a time (31 attack -> calculate -> 27 def -> calculate etc.). When I got to the health box, it crashed again.
To be 100% sure I repeated the process, but filled the health box first. At this time, calculator crashed at giving the creature tier 7.

To sum up, I have a feeling that I get this error randomly...


Show me your values of all parametres and checked abilities that you used for crashing this calculator

P.S. What OS you use ?!

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