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mvassilev
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posted December 22, 2008 11:51 PM |
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This is just a forum where people who like heroes games come to talk about heroes games.
ITT: The OSM, VW, Tavern, Other Games, and Mod Squad don't exist.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted December 23, 2008 12:13 AM |
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They are not the main function of the forum.
It's called Heroescommunity. That is the reason people come here in the first place. Regular OSM posters are a very small group with infrequent asides from others.
What does ITT mean?
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted December 23, 2008 12:27 AM |
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Also, Red Sox Fan only recently started actively posting again, so he's new to me as well. He used to be a mod and apparently has multiple personalities so you never know which one will be posting.
VW in my opinion is for nonsense and can be a good place to exercise a different part of the brain. You can make weird connections or just type gibberish and others will catch on.
About keeping threads alive, I have one qp thread and I did put in a lot of effort to keep it going. However, interest wasn't as great as I anticipated so I gave it up as a botched job. Vlaad recently tried to spark it back up again, but since he got no responses, why should I try to keep it going?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 23, 2008 12:45 AM |
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I don't think the vast majority around here plays heroes much They initially come for that but that's another story.
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted December 23, 2008 01:14 AM |
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Well Father, something you should understand is that we Mods try to allow for freedom of speech as much as possible (Within reason). For instance I am not particularly found of religious zealots or anti-gay people. However, it I censored their talk, I would feel obligated to then censor those who are pro-gay and anti-religious people. Then where would it stop?
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william
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Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted December 23, 2008 01:36 AM |
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I wouldn't exactly see posting something in a thread that is a bit old would be a problem, however, if the post only contains a couple of words then a deletion of the post would be good. If the post was actually good and not just spam then I wouldn't see a problem. Creating new topics would just SPAM up the forum. Maybe it is better to revive old topics but actually make a post that is meaningful rather than just SPAM and posting just for the post count and not to actually contribute to the forum.
This reply is mainly to what I saw in Angelito's post on this page.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted December 23, 2008 09:16 AM |
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I learn that the Mod's don't like it when people make threads that have already been made. They say to do a search on a topic and if it doesn't exist THEN you can make the thread. But if it does exist then you should post in that thread. Oh, but we don't like it when people revive old threads either. Make up your minds!
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I don't have a problem with Alc's system. Questions are usually answered before duplicate topics are closed in the Temple and Altar. This is hypothetical - I'm not even saying it happens here (any more ).
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They can ask questions that have already been asked. They don't have to scour the Questions thread. But they shouldn't make separate topics.
Just to add my 5 cents to the whole thing about closing threads - because I think I'm the main protagonist on this part.
Angelito pretty much nailed the point in his post on page one, and I just would like to underscore the fact that in my oppinion, if you don't really have anything new to say, then don't say anything. Of course, that's a bit harsh, but if thread has been dormant for a certain amount of time, I think one should only revive it if one has something new to add to the discussion.
I would also like to say that I generally let new threads 'survive' even if there is an old topic on the same subject, if the master post is thorough - however, a one-line post asking about something which is discussed in another thread is pointless.
And as for the Questions Topic - I don't really expect people to read through it. If the HC Search Function was better than it is, ideally it would be possible to search within a specified thread, which would make it a lot easier - but as it is, people are just expected to post their question there, and it's my impression that in about 9/10 cases, they actually get an answer (thanx to some very helpful members who put a lot of effort into answering these questions - that does not go un-noticed either).
And I know I can be a bit bossy sometimes, but just the other weak, I cleaned the Lands Of Axeoth, and I reduced the thread number from 1100 to 513 - in other words, I deleted more than half the threads in the forum, which was mostly one-line questions followed up by one or two or maybe a handful of answers. This is just to say that in the long run, a lot of clutter piles up if you don't clean regularly!
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted December 23, 2008 05:34 PM |
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I strongly disagree with Azagal on the idea of an HC status quo.
Elvin recently linked a friendship thread from 2005 which tons of 5 yellow star posters who never post anymore...look at Asheera for example who is a very new poster...she changes the dynamic of hc, what gets discussed etc.
She might disappear and someone else could come along. An internet forum is very not status quo, not one with this much traffic.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted December 23, 2008 06:11 PM |
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With this much traffic^^?
HC has almost no traffic at all^^. And the "Status Quo" is not so much talking about members but about the situation of the community. Things stay on a certain level. Sure when newbies come there is a fresh breeze but it stays a fresh breeze sooner or later it's back to the chatroomish HC.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted February 20, 2009 01:10 AM |
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Edit: Where are all the older moderators anyway? I see many names that I have never seen posting in the threads unless I read back on ones made in like 2003-05. Is it time to throw out the old and bring in the new? There are plenty of more active members that would serve the role better if the old ones have grown tired of this.
Most moderators are active most of the time except for: Ste, Zielvitz (although he still does come now and then), Lich_King, The_Hydra (Although I do see him around some times), and Startune (hasn't been seen for a while). The currently active moderators are: VokialBG, Vesuvius, Kookastar, Pandora, Shadowcaster, Mightymage, Mytical, Elvin, Angelito, and Alcibiades. Clearly there are enough moderators to handle these forums. 
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted February 20, 2009 01:13 AM |
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Wow I never heard of Startune. And some say Sir_Stiven haunts us still.
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted February 22, 2009 03:25 PM |
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About the Newcomer threads, you're right - that needs to be done - but finding time for that takes away from time to do other things, and juggling time has been difficult.
Instead of pointing fingers and telling us what we need to do why not do it yourself? If you don't think its worth doing, then stop scolding...
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I learn that the Mod's don't like it when people make threads that have already been made. They say to do a search on a topic and if it doesn't exist THEN you can make the thread. But if it does exist then you should post in that thread. Oh, but we don't like it when people revive old threads either. Make up your minds!
Interesting post since what I said to you on it was use your judgement... In some cases, like the who we are threads, I prefer revival, because a lot of people forget about them and like to be reminded, but every situation is different.
As for thread starter's accountability, I think people should follow on their threads, and am more inclined to reward those that do. However, once a thread is created here, it belongs to the community - its not 'your' property. You don't have ultimate administrative rights over the thread, and nor are you responsible for any posts made there by other members.
Read Valeriy's sig
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Nebdar
Promising
Supreme Hero
Generation N
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posted February 22, 2009 05:44 PM |
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Hello Father
My story was like this:
I googled and found this forum. I somewhat miss/avoided Newcommers Inn and never proper introduced my self.(sorry for that) I just wanted ask some questions and look for interesting tips/hints for strategy. I also before I started posting i looked and Viewed Read This Newbie style threads of course not all but most of it. And i agree that is too many of them , some are better some have lower quality. But i understand from time perspective that there are many Forums in HC and some of them are very different form each other so each different one uses the Newbie thread made for that forum only.
There are some rules basicly that apply to almost all forums. The VW are obvoius exception.
From my expierience:
Heroes Boards:
Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth - this forum is quite dead most of the time. The revival or making new threads that has probably be done there somewhere is permited(on small scale). You will not get probably the help from FAQ because there are to few members that remember what is where and how.
Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan - pretty active and steaming from times to times. Here use FAQ there will be someone that knows the answer, but sometimes you must be patient or bare that sometimes no one will know the answer. The Table of Contents and an QP awarded post table are mostly updated and if someone makes an duplicate thread it is manily because she or he hadn't looked into this thread(like i did forget once ). Spam like resurections are not welcomed but all newbies learn that evantually
Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop Forum - this similar to the ToA forum with one exception. The revivng of the thread with sentence like this "thanks for the great mod" are welcomed at least i think so...i would like that kind of posts/replys.
Heroes 6 - Altar of Wishes - Similar to Modders Workshop. Here the makers of the thread are obivously responisible in some kind of way for keeping it right and tidy. Of course that depends on how "deep" & "wide" propstion, dream, solution is presented. Here also replys like this""Wow this is great i would definetly love to see that in game" are permitted but more complexed replys are more welcomed.
Newcommers Inn - you want to get an free posts and make HC a good favour greet and help the Newcommers. The thread can be only made by Newbies(I tried once and the thread was moved into VW)
All other Discucssion boards are easy to feagure it out.
Age of Heroes Coliseum - very similar to Altar of Wishes. Reading and replying & commentingin in this thread is very important, because many member put long hours of work and their dreams in most of the projects. Support here is apprieciated.
Turban Tribunal - Only important things can be posted here. No stupid jokes alowed
So as you see different forum, different rules. Different Read This NooB
so so the general rule is:
* Stick to important rules and make new ones if needed
* If you think something should be done, then it is up to you to make it happen (How you are going to this is your choice). Sometimes you will inspire others with just a word but more often it is that you will have to inspire others by doing something
* Moderators are peacekeepers & guides and the members are the main creative and destructive force here
* I agree that everybody should read whole thread before posting, but sometimes you want to talk/chat more then read(you can gain much by reading but many times is boring, active presence is more temptating) , so you skipp the rest and begin posting and replying.
* You will learn about other members characters and overall attitude very quickly, when take time to learn something about others you will find that most of us are very easy to predict And you will know what type of responses and emotions you can expect from others.
Good People with flames in their hearts, souls and mind are always welcomed.
Great to have you here
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted February 23, 2009 07:18 AM |
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Also don't forget there are those here that are somewhat Chaotic, forgetful, and sometimes suffer from that dreaded curse that is known as Writers Block (it is even more evil then I am!). I have several {dozen?) threads that have died from one of the above afflictions. I will probably have even more do so in the future. (If you ever get a chance read my Despute Ring or Murder in the HC mansion threads).
But if you have any questions, or whatever I am just an HCM away and am 'fairly' active even though I don't post as much as I did. I 'lurk' though 
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted February 23, 2009 07:26 AM |
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Umm, Pan you know this was a thread made a couple months ago right? Don't get me wrong, I DO appreciate your comments...just a tad bit late, lol.
And you're a tad waaaaay to full of yourself .
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted February 23, 2009 01:32 PM |
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Thanks for that Father, but yes I can read and am aware of the thread's start date.
What made me respond now is that I have seen you tell people a few times how they should act in 'your' threads.
I figured if I was going to address that, I should respond to it all.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted February 23, 2009 04:04 PM |
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Oh it's not so much a quip as a mere observation. You really are^^. Not that I mind it's just that I think it's ok to tell you when you start to tell people off for posting in "your" threads going all "ohhh please" .
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted February 23, 2009 04:36 PM |
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Arya arya~~~~ someone is sensibel.
It really wasn't my intention to insult you. Seriously it wasn't. What would I gain from that? I enjoy peace much more than fighting (well sometimes conflict is wonderful but ok I'm getting off-topic )
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I say "my" thread because I'm the one that created it. That simple. Nothing more to it. WTF is wrong with you people? It is used as a point of reference, not pride or being full of myself or anything else.
That wasn't what I based my statement on at all^^.
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That's bad how?
I didn't notice that anyone has "scolded" you for anything you include in "that" (didn't feel like quoting all if it sorry). I'm sure you're a perfectly nice guy etc. but I still think you're pretty full of yourself (your current reaction proving my point in my opinion). And I pretty much told you why I said it (you telling Pan off in the way you did and a lot of other stuff I read from you).
Dude if that offends you I'm sorry and I won't tell you that I think you're too full of yourself. But atleast believe me I really didn't want to start a fight with you... it was just an observation on my part.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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DeadMan
Known Hero
The True Humanitarian
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posted February 23, 2009 05:06 PM |
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if someone calls a spayed a spayed with you.
We're not talking about dogs here.
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted February 23, 2009 05:23 PM |
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I barked at you? Maybe you should try to read more carefully before you react - or maybe I should try to type more clearly.
Here goes:
You said:
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You all need ONE newbie area and keep everything related to visitors and new people to that area and that area alone
So I said rather than point your finger and tell us YOU need to do this, why not take the initiative and do it yourself.
You want something to be better - then make it better.
That's what I said.
As for the whole thing about threads and ownership, there really is nothing wrong with your views on thread starters watching over their threads. Again, if you had bothered to read what I said before puffing yourself and launching an attack you would have noticed it when I said:
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As for thread starter's accountability, I think people should follow on their threads, and am more inclined to reward those that do.
My whole reason for mentioning that once a thread is created it belongs to the community is because in the OSM Feedback you chose to ignore other people's opinions until the person who started the thread had his say. I don't think its right to ignore other participants in a thread simply because they didn't start it.
It takes one person and one post to start a thread, but it takes many more to make the thread worthwhile. I think every one's opinions deserve to be heard. There are plenty of threads here where the initial post was of little consequence to what the actual thread came to be about, but that doesn't mean that the thread no longer has value.
I think I've already given your post more of a reply than it deserved, if you continue to be rude and insulting you will be penalized for it.
You may think that for some reason it is your right to treat people like garbage, but I disagree.
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